4 pointsby Wpnx3302 hours ago5 comments
  • andy992 hours ago
    This is astroturfing it looks like, or reddit style marketing, whatever you call it. A controversial sounding post linking to a company someone is trying to promote. Please join me in flagging.
    • Wpnx3302 hours ago
      I have no affiliation to or care about the original site.

      to be completely clear, i posted an article i thought was very relevant to things i care about and someone flagged it as ai drivel. but it was in fact valuable information worthy of being shared.

      so i did some searches to see if people are actually against ai being used in writing and found this article. posted here to see peoples opinions. So, far id say its not so easy. some are okay with it, some are against.

  • al_borland2 hours ago
    If I think an article was written by AI, I stop reading. I didn’t even bother clicking on the link due to the URL and framing of the question, I assume it’s going to be AI on the other end.

    If it isn’t worth someone’s time to write, it isn’t worth my time to read.

    • bediger40002 hours ago
      I agree completely, and do the same. In link aggregators that allow voting, downvote or flag. If the submitter of the "Ai" generated article has commented, I downvote or flag that comment.

      I don't want to read generated median prose that almost certainly contains falsehoods or nonsense.

      • Wpnx3302 hours ago
        While I don't disagree that lots of people are using AI to turn out slop that is unreviewed, uninteresting drivel... and often times out right trash. There are others which take the time to use AI to do good things. As I mentioned in my comment. AI is literally used in every part of peoples day, even if they don't realize it. Eventually, AI will be so good enough at doing the writing you won't be able to tell, even when it is used by those people who put in no effort to make their content good when they use it.
        • al_borland2 hours ago
          AI being heavily leveraged by companies during a hype cycle doesn’t make it good, nor does it mean I’m obligated to consume the content.

          I have disabled YouTube recommendations so I stop getting AI videos. When choosing books, I have plenty of AI-free options written before 2022. Newer books will need to clear a high bar.

          The opportunistic people who try to leverage every new technology to get rich quick have made the world a much worse place, and right now their tools of choice is AI. If there are valid uses for it, the people doing it should be loudly speaking out against the slop producers, not telling people resisting it that AI is inevitable and they need to get on board. That’s the playbook of one of those opportunistic people who make the world worse. I’d urge you not to align your life with those who erode society.

          • Wpnx3302 hours ago
            I'd urge you not to be so close minded, and not to straw man other people who have different views than you.

            People once thought cars we dumb toys for rich people and completely impractical forms of transportation given the state of the roads and economy at the time. Look at society today.

            People also once thought the internet was a fad. And, steel-manning your point. we had a dot com bubble. never-the-less the whole world runs on the internet today. Arguably for the better. Many innovations around the world have been due to digitally shared information.

            Just because some people try to use it to get rich, doesn't mean the world wont be the better for it. I'm just looking at the big picture. sure, some people will use AI poorly... their businesses, and ideas, and blogs, etc.. they wont last. some people will use AI well, and they will. Either way. people are going to use AI, for everything.

            • al_borland38 minutes ago
              The productive uses won’t become clear until the grifters move on to the next grift. Until that happens, I’m going to remain highly skeptical of most things.

              The internet eventually became a tool/platform to build on, rather than a feature itself. I think those advertising AI or using AI as the main feature, are missing the mark. AI is a tool to do other things, and how valuable is the thing being done? If AI makes the thing being done trivial and low value, the human probably isn’t doing enough beyond the basic capabilities of the model.

              A site churning out AI articles is like SHEIN turning out fast fashion. It’s quick, it’s cheap, but no one really thinks it’s good quality. Many would argue the industry and the Earth would be better without it. I prefer to opt for better quality clothes, just like I would prefer to opt for writing that isn’t all AI generated.

              I have found some genuinely useful use cases for AI, but I don’t think writing is one of them. We already have more content than anyone can hope to read. Creating more text is going to create a bigger haystack. I believe what I said at the start, that if something has value, a person will be willing to spend time on it. I think that’s a great filter. I also think it’s important for people to write, because it helps the thinking process and the ability to organize complex thoughts and ideas. I don’t think short cutting this use for the brain is good for society as a whole.

  • Wpnx3302 hours ago
    Do or don't, either way people are going to have to accept it.

    AI is used in literally everything in society at this point. You drive to work, AI enhanced navigation, or even self-driving cars. You take a photo on your mobile phone, AI enhanced images. You screw up the text in your group chat with your friends, AI enhanced text correction. You browse for products in your favorite online store, AI cross-product suggestions. The Ads you see on said favorite online store, AI selected. The songs and the order they are played on your favorite music app... likely AI selected.

    every bit of text, video, audio, and still imagery has, at some point in the chain, likely been touched by AI. And, if it hasn't today... in time it will be.

    Every facet of society is being optimized via AI. Maybe to many people's chagrin. Never-the-less, the AI turns. So, my take... rather than resist the inevitable, carry on doing what you've always done. filter and choose the better product, service, content. The genuinely bad will fail, AI generated or not.

    • rglover2 hours ago
      > The genuinely bad will fail, AI generated or not.

      Bingo. It won't be fun getting there, but best as I can tell we're approaching the plateau of productivity in the hype cycle.

  • blinkbat2 hours ago
    Yes. They hate it
  • rglover2 hours ago
    Some do, but from my own experiments most don't, especially if you put in effort to edit, rewrite, and reformat. It really comes down to lazy vs not lazy, not unlike creativity pre-AI. AI is an easy target especially in the hands of someone whose goals extend beyond writing something well or worth their reader's time (generic, as-is slop for SEO/marketing purposes).
    • Wpnx3302 hours ago
      My experience is the mostly the same. I find some people hate it just because. Personally, I don't care what or who wrote the information I am reading so long as it is as accurate / truthy as can be at the time.