ChatGPT lost 22 points of web share in a year(aicharts.grok.me)
15 pointsby echohive42an hour ago7 comments
  • xyzzy_plugh29 minutes ago
    Gemini is actually good enough for pretty much everyone I know who is not in tech and uses Android. These people are downright pleased with Google's AI summaries.

    The fact that Google can push Gemini out in so many ways with their existing marketshare is mind boggling. The fact that ChatGPT hasn't lost 50-100% of web share shows it's Google's game to lose at this point.

    • razster16 minutes ago
      I've been using Gemini as an advance search engine. Their main search with AI isn't that useful but Gemini is. They're the only AI online I will use and just for searching/compiling. For work/development it is Qwen3.8. Then again now that I found out Pi has a web search function I've been using Gemini less and less.
    • stingraycharles19 minutes ago
      If only they could make it be wrong less? I know they need to have these results appear in record time, but I wonder the collective damage being done by just how horribly wrong the answer often is.
      • edoceo5 minutes ago
        Can you point an example? For me, recently, it had the wrong price for cable-car fare in SF, but it did show (2015) in the result. That seems reasonable to me, it's not horribly wrong. Other stuff it's been accurate on.
    • ipdashc20 minutes ago
      > These people are downright pleased with Google's AI summaries.

      Consider me part of "those people", I guess, but are you guys not, at this point? There was a period near the start where they were bad, but I find them perfectly usable now. I'll often open a tab, Google something, and just read the summary because it's basically instant and I don't need any more than just that, a summary.

      I'm genuinely confused why people take so much issue with them. Sure they're still wrong sometimes, but it's blatantly obvious when that's the case, and I can just scroll past.

      • Retr0id15 minutes ago
        They're ok. But when I use a search engine it's because I want search results. If I wanted an LLM's interpretation I'd have just asked a search-enabled LLM in the first place.
        • ipdashc7 minutes ago
          True, but I find it's significantly faster than even "instant" chatgpt, and comes with the advantage that if the summary isn't what I need, I can just scroll down to see the real results (granted, which are usually useless these days).

          I agree they should make them disable-able though.

      • paimapi16 minutes ago
        have you ever done the fun trick of asking any model to adversarially review itself? highly recommended practice for anyone who trusts a one-shot output
        • ipdashc5 minutes ago
          Sure, I've done this for more complicated questions and sometimes it reveals flaws. But I don't use Google for anything complicated. Generally it's just to get a quick vague definition of a term, pretty much.
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  • Retr0id26 minutes ago
    I think it'd be more informative to see total users per provider, rather than % shares.
  • echohive42an hour ago
    Worldwide AI-chatbot web visits: ChatGPT 76% → 54%. Gemini 6% → 28%. Claude 1% → 9%. This is not monthly users and not revenue.
    • andai28 minutes ago
      I understand Claude being niche (until they started running Superbowl ads?), but why'd it take Google this long to start catching up?
      • fzzzy26 minutes ago
        Because Google's AIs are absolutely awful?
        • bdangubic24 minutes ago
          they are good enough for 89.56% of ChatGPT users
        • andxor24 minutes ago
          Really? This just tells me you haven't tried it in a long time. I'd argue it's a much better experience for the average user.
      • a2ff6eeb023 minutes ago
        Because they were slow rolling them out, and heavily focused on the profitable corporate customers.
  • thot_experiment27 minutes ago
    54% to go, good work team.
    • razster15 minutes ago
      Meme: "I'm doing my part" Starship Troopers.
      • edoceo4 minutes ago
        Service guarantees citizenship!
  • AndrewKemendo24 minutes ago
    Given this anyone still thinking Google lost needs to update their belief system
    • fragmede17 minutes ago
      Lost at what, though? Waymo is gonna pan out but they sold their domain business to squarespace despite having GCP, and Google workspace deletes data when changing billing which is absolutely unacceptable.
      • xyzzy_plugh4 minutes ago
        The domain business is a distraction. It was wise to sell it. They still own several gTLDs so they have plenty of revenue from this avenue.

        Selling .coms and Donut's gTLDs? Peanuts.

        Godaddy makes all their money from other stuff, and Google still does lots of other stuff. Google Workspace still prints money.

  • 0xbadcafebee20 minutes ago
    I used to use Gemini (the product) because it's free. But its responses are so incredibly bad, and the interface has so many dumb bugs, that I stopped using it and switched to OpenCode Go models + Web UI. Gemini models can recite deep knowledge, but they can't do constructive things, can't do extended web research, can't provide more than a couple options for an answer. Either their system prompt is nerfed like crazy or the models just suck at agentic work. Even ChatGPT from 2025 was better than Gemini today.
  • Forgeties7933 minutes ago
    Alternate headline:

    “After three years of unprecedented investment including governments, Facebook, and Google dumping money into the promise of AI, ChatGPT still has over 50% of the traffic.”

    Also, grok isn’t been on that list, further proving that no serious people use it.

    • A_D_E_P_T3 minutes ago
      Grok is there, just a little bit too small to label. Dark brown on the chart.

      4.6 is a good model, by the way. Legitimately frontier-level and a good communicator.