67 pointsby artninja19884 hours ago10 comments
  • cmiles84 hours ago
    The whole thing is a tragedy. Nobody wants to see a situation end like this.

    There are other likely victims here too though including those who were passed over for roles or promotions based on the alleged false claims, exaggerations and plagiarism. Those are harder to identify and quantify but still a very real thing that has deep impact on people’s lives.

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      • forestrywat2 hours ago
        Comments like this should result in an IP level ban. Get the fuck out of here.
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      • cmiles83 hours ago
        Absolutely not. Simply pointing out that there are many victims here beyond the obvious, and those passed over for promo or missed roles also are subjected to extreme mental health stress while others reaped rewards of alleged wrongdoing.
  • zamadatix4 hours ago
    A tragedy all around. Most obviously for Jason Arday, who, regardless of which interpretations of everything else one takes, saw this end as the only way out of a high profile media situation.
    • sampo4 hours ago
      When one's whole career and self-image has been based in academia and then the academic career ends, it can easily give a feeling of failure and worthlessness, even in the most normal circumstances.

      I couldn't find statistics about postdocs or tenure-track professors, but this meta-study on PhD students and medical residents gives a suicide attempt rate of 0.8%.

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002239562...

      • cmiles83 hours ago
        Academia is brutal, but let’s not conflate legitimate struggles in an academic career with being caught allegedly just making up a whole bunch of stuff
      • zaik3 hours ago
        From the same article:

        > The overall prevalence of SA [suicide attempts] in our aggregate sample was .8%. These figures approached the prevalence of SA in Americans aged 18–39 (1.0%) and in the general population of adults over 18 (.6%).

      • gizajob3 hours ago
        Academia isn’t the criminal justice system though, if you have, for example, cheated on your doctorate you can hold your hands up and admit it and do another doctorate.
  • gillesjacobs3 hours ago
    "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!” — Walter Scott, Marmion (1808)
    • jacquesm21 minutes ago
      Unbelievable these comments on a thread about someone who committed suicide. Have a heart.
  • hyperhello4 hours ago
    I'm wondering just how falsifiable a claim of plagiarism is in the field of sociology.
    • gizajob4 hours ago
      The issue is that the claims of sociology struggle with falsifiability, or at least have a tendency to create positions which don’t admit refutation.

      I don’t wish this poor man ill, and a huge mess has been created at every level it seems, all around him. Having read some of his contentious thesis the issue that arose for me, beyond the plaigarism question, was that it was generally hyperbolic and at points, word salad, unable to present a target that could be refuted or argued against. Zero clue what Cambridge were doing with and to this guy, or what the standards are for appointing people and critiquing their work if it’s feeding a prevailing narrative. I know John Moores, who awarded his PhD is far from rigorous and I know from experience that there is almost nothing that would have stopped them awarding him the doctorate once the work was complete, regardless whether it was plagiarised or didn’t stand up to scrutiny from anywhere outside of his small angle on sociological discourse. This all points to him being a symptom of an extremely widespread and serious issue that has arisen within British academia, not a cause of anything major.

      I wouldn’t have wished him dead though, this is pretty tragic that the intense scrutiny over what should be a very niche and minor academic issue inside a university got blown up into front page news. He didn’t deserve or warrant that kind of scrutiny either, so has clearly completely collapsed from it, because it would be hard for anyone to take.

    • tptacek3 hours ago
      Just a note that plagiarism wasn't the extent of the alleged misconduct. Large parts of his biography were in question as well. A recovery of his reputation or a long-term future as a public thinker, let alone an academic, was probably not even a remote possibility. The stress of dealing with that situation had to have been incredible.
    • srean4 hours ago
      https://ncofnas.com/p/dei-fraud-and-cover-up-at-cambridge

      Reams of lifted passages look quite obvious.

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  • srean4 hours ago
    I think it was a case of narcissistic collapse.

    https://www.simplypsychology.com/articles/narcissistic-colla...

    Going by the astonishing tall tales he spread about himself, I would be surprised if it wasn't.

    The following video is a psychologist's take, well, a YouTube psychologist's take on some of his many implausible, superhuman and grandiose claims that include:

    Running 30 marathons in 35 days, notably running the final nine marathons with a fracture.

    To have completed 600 miles of running in just six days.

    Raised over £5.5 million ($7.4 million) for charity.

    (Time) travelling to Brazil on a relief mission where he personally installed water pumps for local populations as part of a program that shut down before he was born.

    https://youtu.be/-RxoYfCiwX0

    • JMiao3 hours ago
      cool guess! idk about jason arday, but that dude in the first link is strange and off putting. too much stink face, and the way he frames the subject with the blurry photos and loony screenshots feels like bullying.
      • JMiaoan hour ago
        commenter changed their comment and /s blew right by
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  • worik3 hours ago
    I have been following this in English news. It is terribly sad.

    The University of Cambridge is largely to blame for letting this troubled person dig himself in so deep.

    His astounding claims were astonishing and easily falsifiable. Journalists had no such trouble.

    They raised him up then when he got too hot cast him down.

    He was a fantasist, he deserves some blame, but it was Cambridge with the power, and irresponsible hubris

    RIP

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    • collingreen4 hours ago
      What/who are "DEI people"?
      • fearmerchant3 hours ago
        Man I wish I was asking this question. Imagine how blissful life would be not to have wasted precious synaptic energy learning this topic.
      • pessimizer4 hours ago
        It's literally a job title. One that many people have spent a lot of time and effort to create. It's weird to pretend that you've never heard of it, or the people involved in it.
        • throwaway274483 hours ago
          > One that many people have spent a lot of time and effort to create.

          As it stands in the US at least, it's a corporate marketing term referring to the whitewashing that happened after the 2020 protests to characterize the efforts corporations use to cover their asses from discrimination lawsuits as somehow pro-human. Let's not portray this as some kind of political movement rather than a liability concern.

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    • profdevloper4 hours ago
      I think the scrutiny was due to him being an avatar for the frustrations around DEI and western society's focus on equality of outcome. He didn't deserve his position at Cambridge, but he didn't deserve this fate either.
      • spankalee4 hours ago
        > western society's focus on equality of outcome

        What??

      • mulderc4 hours ago
        Are you on the investigation committee? Seems we can wait for the independent report before making any claims like that.
    • cung4 hours ago
      Not sure I follow your reasoning behind his skin color and suicide being causally related
      • pessimizer4 hours ago
        British black people are committed to pretending to have the history and experiences of American black people. Black British immigrants weren't abused any more by Britain than the people they left behind in their countries of origin were.

        And white British libs, in their deep desire to emulate US libs (including their accents), need their black people to play the part of American black people in order to complete the ensemble.

        • gizajob3 hours ago
          Yeah absolutely this. People seem to be unable to recognise that Britain and the USA are radically different places with different histories and approaches to basically everything. The common language creates the impression that they’re basically the same place.
        • throw-the-towel3 hours ago
          I'm not sure I agree on the Black Brits part, but the general problem is real: too many US copycats, in situations where aping the US does not make a shred of sense.
        • regularization3 hours ago
          The slaves in Jamaica had a radically different experience then the slaves of America?

          The colour bar. Colored Alien Seaman's Order, Kelso Cochrane, Bristol Bus Boycott

          Could go up to Brixton incidents or all the attacks on this professor.

    • d_silin4 hours ago
      >Honestly, even if all of these accusations were true...it didn't deserve the media scrutiny and pile-on that he was subject to.

      Truth is not a cheap whore to be abused at pleasure. All he needed to do is not lie about his accomplishments.

      • InsideOutSanta4 hours ago
        Do you actually know that he lied? From the article:

        > Cambridge initially said claims of plagiarism regarding Arday's thesis and some journal publications had been investigated by Liverpool John Moores University (LMJU) and the journals in question.

        > LJMU - which awarded Arday his PhD in 2015 - concluded that he had not plagiarised work.

        It is absolutely undeniable that there has been a witch hunt against minorities in positions of power in the last few years. It is unclear to me whether this guy actually did anything wrong.

        What is clear to me, though, is that the level of scrutiny and the attacks he received are not consistent with what most white men in similar situations received.

        • thataccount4 hours ago
          >It is absolutely undeniable that there has been a witch hunt against minorities in positions of power in the last few years. It is unclear to me whether this guy actually did anything wrong.

          From where I've been sitting, the minorities have been running slipshod over almost all institutions while anyone else who questions whether they ought to be doing so is labeled a racist.

          I don't know in this case, but it does seem like it could be an Icarus flying too close to the sun situation.

        • greygoo2224 hours ago
          You can check with your own eyes that entire paragraphs of his work were copied verbatim:

          https://retractionwatch.com/2026/07/27/cambridge-jason-arday...

          https://ncofnas.com/p/dei-fraud-and-cover-up-at-cambridge

        • d_silin4 hours ago
          I followed the story and he absolutely did, in multiple instances.
        • liveoneggs3 hours ago
          he claimed to be a non-verbal autistic for much of his childhood, disputed by childhood classmates; he claimed to have run "30 marathons in 35 days" also disputed and unverified
        • anigbrowl3 hours ago
          Perhaps we should do annual random audits on 50 or 100 academics to get a baseline against which to measure claims of academic dishonesty. Perhaps there's a correlation between plagiarism and professors who acquire tenure at an unusually young age, for example. Or perhaps older professors gain tenure after a certain number of years 'phoning it in', publishing work that is obviously derivative but reliably inflates citation count at a steady rate. I can't really tell whether any individual academic plagiarist is a true interloper or whether everyone does it a bit get some early stage career momentum with which to attract funding and then perform real research.
        • quickthrowman3 hours ago
          Why would you believe the institution that granted the PhD? They’re never going to admit they screwed up in granting the degree, how do you think that would affect their reputation?

          You can examine his writing and the writing he stole from, side by side. I would suggest doing that instead of believing an institution who has no choice but to lie if they want students to apply to their grad schools in the future.

          • gizajob3 hours ago
            Liverpool John Moores University doesn’t have a reputation - the only one it’s got is that it’s a former polytechnic attended by people who are never going to cope in the real parts of academia at even the nearby University of Liverpool. Cambridge would have never given this man a degree never mind a doctorate, but once he had one it was a pass to getting inside.
        • samastur4 hours ago
          Yes, we do.

          He was a fabulist who certainly was more scrutinized because of his skin color, but it really shouldn’t be disputed that he plagiarized and lied profusely.

          That doesn’t mean remotely he deserved this.

          I also have little hope that everyone who contributed to this sordid tale, from Cambridge, police etc. will have to account for their profound failures.

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        • etchalon4 hours ago
          I think a lot things are simultaneously true:

          1. He exaggerated/lied about some of his accomplishments and aspects of his life. 2. The accomplishments and aspects of his life he exaggerated/lied about did not seem to be about his academic success. Generic life puffery that, while dishonest, did not make him unqualified for his position. 3. Anti-DEI crusaders decided to make an example of him. 4. Had he not been a person of color, the scrutiny would have had a very different shape.

        • throwawaypath3 hours ago
          “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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    • KPGv24 hours ago
      > it didn't deserve the media scrutiny and pile-on

      How bad was it? I didn't notice anything of the sort, and I'm curious if maybe your algorithm feeds you a fire hydrant of crap most people never see.

      I ask because there were instances of plagiarism between 2016 and 2020 (I only remember it was Trump's first term) that I saw significant media coverage of, including them being called before Congress in the USA.

      For this guy, I only saw one headline, when the alleged plagiarism was revealed, and that was it. I didn't even recognize this guy's name when I saw this new headline on here a few minutes ago. (I did recognize him once I saw his pic at the OP link.)

      This might be just the reverse of a common thing online: "Why won't the media cover this story??" when in fact they are covering this story, it's just that you are passively looking only at what your friends are reposting on social media.

      EDIT: also not for nothing, but if your argument is "prejudice exists because racists think he shouldn't have been at Cambridge," then him plagiarizing and lying about things cuts against your entire argument bc, assuming the allegations are true, he never belonged at Cambridge, and his race is irrelevant.

      (I agree significant prejudice against Black people exist in the developed world, but I'm disinclined to agree about it here considering the women in the US—another historically disadvantaged group—who faced these same allegations a few years ago didn't crash out and kill themselves. Which is what it sounds like this individual did. And in those women's cases, it's with the full weight of Trump's MAGA calling for their heads and probably worse.)

      • itsibitzi4 hours ago
        He was repeatedly at the top of the Guardian's website at least. I can't think of a single other instance of academic fraud being pushed to the top of any news site for several days running.
        • sampo3 hours ago
          > I can't think of a single other instance of academic fraud being pushed to the top of any news site for several days running.

          The news cycle about Harvard University president in December 2023 might have been close.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_Gay#Plagiarism_invest...

        • wk_end4 hours ago
          Well, he wasn't just an academic, but also a media icon/minor celebrity (he has/had a memoir coming out). His academic fraud and plagiarism was just one thing - aside from the race angle, his story probably got lots of media attention just because of how comically absurd and obvious his self-mythologizing was.

          It's not academic but the closest similar case that's coming to mind off the top of my head was when James Frey (who FWIW is white) got found out for A Million Little Pieces, which definitely was major news.

      • valdiorn4 hours ago
        > How bad was it? I didn't notice anything of the sort, and I'm curious if maybe your algorithm feeds you a fire hydrant of crap most people never see.

        No, this has been top 5 headline news in the UK for the last week. Basically every major media outlet has been covering it, including BBC, guardian, Telegraph, daily mail etc.