92 pointsby surprisetalk2 hours ago16 comments
  • cvoss4 minutes ago
    > knowing full well that [Delilah] will betray [Samson]

    It is not clear from the text that Samson is aware of the presence of Philistines the first three times. We are told they are lying in ambush in an inner chamber. We are not told that they make themselves known, attempt to subdue Samson, or interact with him in any way. Instead, we are told that Delilah announces their imminent presence, with no follow-through. (And why, after all, would they dare come in until Delilah has established that he is weak and harmless, given his reputation for strength and bloodthirst?)

    I don't believe Samson understands Delilah is betraying him. Not until the end when he's told her the real secret. Until that point, he may only receive her behavior as, at worst, a taunt and, at best, an attempt to pursue a kind of relational intimacy in which he makes himself vulnerable to her. And indeed, that's exactly where the story goes. He eventually makes himself vulnerable to her, both emotionally and physically.

    A shallow reading that concludes the characters must be dumb and naive to explain the ridiculousness of the plot is rarely the most appropriate reading. Frequently, the characters and nuances run much deeper, and a more careful and thoughtful reading is required. Ancient literature is stylistically terse compared to modern literature. Space on the manuscript is precious and not given over to things that the reader is meant to infer by reflection. And whenever a phrase or pattern is repeated, that means it is very, very significant. In this case, Samson's interaction with Delilah is not a one-off inexplicable behavior. It is one episode in a series of episodes, both preceding and following, where consistent patterns of behavior develop and escalate (e.g., his vengefulness, his vulnerability to women).

  • bdr7 minutes ago
    Speaking of “witty, and learned, and wise, and humane”, this post is all of the above. The kind of writing that, before you’re even done reading, makes you eager to look up everything else the author has written.
  • Joker_vDan hour ago
    > After several repetitions of this, Samson decides that being shaved, blinded and crushed will be less exasperating than listening to any more of Delilah's nagging.

    A very off-tangent note, but I recently learned that Samson's last words, "ἀποθανέτω ἡ ψυχή μου μετὰ τῶν ἀλλοφύλων"/"moriatur anima mea cum Philisthiim", pretty much have never been translated into English literally; it's always "Let me die with the Philistines" for some reason.

    • blharr2 minutes ago
      "Let my soul die with the Philistines" being the literal translation?
    • ivrit-tirvi19 minutes ago
      I always look it up in the original Hebrew if I really want to understand, and the difference is sometimes really HUGE (or simply wrong in modern translations).

      It's also worth noting that some books of the Hebrew Bible are poetry (Psalms, Job, Proverbs, Song of Songs), which doesn't show at all after translation. Hebrew poetry is unique!

      As they say, reading the Bible in translation is like "kissing your spouse through a veil".

    • wofo15 minutes ago
      I'm curious, what would you be your translation?
      • andrewdea8 minutes ago
        let my soul die with the Philistines
      • jeffbee13 minutes ago
        Yeah the comment is a bit of a cliffhanger. Wish they had given us their preferred translation.
  • PeterStuer39 minutes ago
    Slightly off topic: The title hits home. When I was young, books were a luxury item. Less rich people just used the library. But the library had a strict 7 books rental policy. Not enough for the avid reader that also needed a small programming reference library. So I had 3 steady, occasionally 4th, library card pool from family members to keep my bookshelf operational.
    • eliben22 minutes ago
      I also remember libraries having a very small limit back in the day, so I was surprised to find out that in the Bay Area libraries typically allow up to 100 books per card!
  • euthymiclabsan hour ago
    Pleased to see Roget's thesaurus here. It's a fantastic resource without a great digital equivalent. I've found LLMs helpful in a pinch (and it's certainly better than a standard thesaurus), but Roget's is still the book I turn to for tricky word-picking problems.
    • cryzinger9 minutes ago
      I've never owned a copy of Roget's, and now I'm curious/tempted to get one, but my go-to digital word picking assistant has always been OneLook Thesaurus: https://www.onelook.com/thesaurus/
    • leobgan hour ago
      I was looking for it after reading the post, but there seem to be so many different versions and edtions. Harper, Penguin. College. The New. The Concise. The International. Some say they’re organized alphabetically. How do I know which one is the kind that the article talks about, if I buy used online and cant look into it?
      • darreninthenetan hour ago
        Are you in the USA? It's because Roget as a title isn't trademarked there so it's accepted as a name for any thesaurus.

        If you want the latest edition of the "real" Roget's, it's the one published by Longman.

      • mjdan hour ago
        The one in TFA is Harper and Row, and the later 8th Edition, published by Harper Collins, is also organized the correct way. I think you'll be safe if you can get a Harper version.
        • euthymiclabs34 minutes ago
          That's the one I have. I've had an older version in the past but misplaced it years ago. This one does the trick, but like the article author says: it is a weighty book. (I like that.)
    • criddellan hour ago
      I never knew Roget's was organized like that and I have had several different editions over the years. I'm one of those people who always used it as a compendium of synonyms.
  • reedf1an hour ago
    was expecting umberto eco after the first few - I'm sure you've either read him or desperately should!
  • mjdan hour ago
    And I bet you won't guess what any of them are.
    • rzzztan hour ago
      Number #8 will surprise you!

      I keep a computer graphics book that I'm reading over and over again, just one chapter that is concerned with physically-based rendering. By now the theory is getting so ingrained I could write a path tracer in my sleep! But then again, I don't want to.

      • mjdan hour ago
        The current front-runner is “The Crazy Ape” by Albert Szent-Györgyi, who won the Nobel Prize for discovering ascorbic acid.

        It's about how war is perpetrated by the old against the young. I've carried it next to my heart since I was fourteen.

        Also, it's quite short and will definitely fit in the space.

        A bit more about it: https://mathstodon.xyz/@mjd/116411220100252049

  • whittenan hour ago
    I’ve been told the Legacy Standard Bible is one where the translators tried to not use the same English word when the original Greek or Hebrew words are different.

    FYI: https://m.youtube.com/c/legacystandardbible

  • jablan hour ago
    We read some passages from Decameron back in high school. Lovely book really, I should take the time to really read it cover to cover.
    • pavel_lishin23 minutes ago
      There's apparently a pretty amusing adaptation on Netflix as well.
  • throw7an hour ago
    NIV is what I grew up with and I kind of tired of it because of that... I have a soft spot for the KJV/NKJV.
    • i_am_a_peasantan hour ago
      Same, not a believer, I appreciate KJV for its artistic value and it being referenced in so much literature and cinema.
  • xerox13ster29 minutes ago
    Get the data off those drives now, rather than later. The longer you hope to get the data, the more hopeless it will be.
  • Razenganan hour ago
    I just need The Wind in the Willows :)
    • stiivan hour ago
      When is the best time of year to read it?
      • Razenganan hour ago
        When you're trying to fall asleep but there is too much noise in your head, I suppose :)

        Actually, Redwall and other slightly-mature anthropomorphic stories are also surprisingly good for that.

        But if I had to pick a time of year, then I'd say winter, under the blankets or by a fire.

  • hnfvovpje430 minutes ago
    Ah the classic
  • bbkane26 minutes ago
    > For example, Moses is easy to recognize at lower right, because of the glowing horns

    I'm sorry, what? Why is Moses depicted with glowing horns?

    • pavel_lishin25 minutes ago
      Yeah, I thought he was easily recognizable because he's holding stone tablets.

      But apparently it is a thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horns_of_Moses

      > The Horns of Moses are an iconographic convention common in Latin Christianity whereby Moses was presented as having two horns on his head, later replaced by rays of light.[1] The idea comes from a translation, or mistranslation, of a Hebrew term in Jerome's Latin Vulgate Bible, and many later vernacular translations dependent on that. Moses is said to be "horned", or radiant, or glorified, after he sees God who presents him with the tablets of the law in the Book of Exodus.

  • waffletoweran hour ago
    A sequel that diverges from and dwarfs its predecessor -- Deleuze & Guattari's A Thousand Plateaus (translated into English) https://www.upress.umn.edu/9780816614028/a-thousand-plateaus...
  • hnnbxu2nwian hour ago
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