13 pointsby speckxan hour ago2 comments

cj1738231 minutes ago
I don't disagree with the title of the article but I also don't think you can prove anything about consciousness with language. How consciousness can arise from matter is still a very much a mystery.
rf15an hour ago
How is it that sign language association learning is different from spoken language learning? What about humans using simple sign language in their early life?
Is it not possible that we try to detract too much here?
- customguy39 minutes ago
  > How is it that sign language association learning is different from spoken language learning?
  Huh? The article doesn't claim anything like this.
  - Terr_34 minutes ago
    Yeah, sign-language versus spoken-language is just an implementation-detail for which signals Koko was reproducing.
    In some parallel-universe where Koko was a parrot "speaking" English, we'd have the same set of philosophical issues and concerns.