22 pointsby jandeboevrie14 hours ago4 comments
  • glouwbug4 hours ago
    It's a unary operator, kind of like ~ or !, which can apply to parenthesis (), until it meets a type, then the parenthesis are mandatory:

        int x;
        sizeof x;     // okay
        sizeof (x);   // okay
        sizeof int;   // not okay
        sizeof (int); // okay
    
    It's a weird double rule to parse, but even worse, the strongest binding precedence typically doesn't like an alpha identifier at that point in the recursive descent, so you get weird rules like:

        read_prefix():
            is peak() '!': ...
            is peak() '~": ...
            is alpha(peak())
                maybe alpha is sizeof?
                    wait, it wasn't sizeof? it was an identifier? long rewind
            is peak() '+': ...
    
    Something like @ would've been a good pick for sizeof.

    \ramble on

    (actually, better yet, it should've been used instead of & for taking the address). Imagine:

        int x;
        int* p = @x;
    
    \ramble off
    • an hour ago
      undefined
  • wren69916 hours ago
    > (everything here also applies to c2y's newly introduced _Countof)

    Stop the press, they're adding what? So I don't have to keep adding #define count_of(arr) (sizeof(arr) / sizeof(*arr)) to every codebase and living with its failure modes?

    I'm really loving C's character arc at the moment, where they keep going back to fix old problems instead of piling everything and the kitchen sink into the language.

    • zbentley3 hours ago
      > I'm really loving C's character arc at the moment, where they keep going back to fix old problems

      Valid, but it does seem a bit Stockholm Syndrome to have this much rejoicing that your language added a builtin for getting the length of an array in 2026.

    • HexDecOctBin5 hours ago
      Yeah, despite puritanical hand-wringing over C23, I do like both the discipline and the selectivity with WG14 has shows (and I say this as a card-carrying C++ hater).

      I do wish they will start looking into proper arrays since there is already a syntax for this can can be augmented semantically:

          int func (int arg[static 5])
      • uecker32 minutes ago
        Can you explain what you mean exactly regarding this augmenting this syntax?
  • high_na_euv5 hours ago
    I feel like what you struggle with is expression parsing, not sizeof itself?
  • inigyou6 hours ago
    Wait, they added a new operator and didn't fix that parsing stupidity by always requiring parentheses?
    • adrian_b3 hours ago
      I assume that there would be a zillion of legacy C source files that would be broken by such a change.
      • inigyou3 hours ago
        There are no legacy C source files using _Countof.
        • uecker2 hours ago
          That was discussed, but consistency with sizeof was considered more important. And if you figured out how to parse sizeof, parsing countof is not an additional burden.