45 pointsby Bender4 hours ago4 comments
  • 2 hours ago
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  • clickety_clack2 hours ago
    It’s so weird being in a conversation with someone who is video recording the whole thing.
    • alwaan hour ago
      It's not a conversation at that point, it's a performance. I walk away.
  • throwuxiytayq4 hours ago
    A few years ago a device with similar capabilities would have been the coolest gadget ever; Zuckerberg truly has the remarkable ability to turn to shit anything he touches.
    • dabinat3 hours ago
      Google Glass was loathed too. Unfortunately Zuckerberg learned the wrong lesson from its failure - that the issue was that people could recognize the glasses and know they were being recorded and not the actual recording itself.
      • like_any_other3 hours ago
        If only people reacted to surveillance cameras the same way.
    • JohnFen3 hours ago
      > A few years ago a device with similar capabilities would have been the coolest gadget ever

      Not at DEF CON, no.

    • m46341 minutes ago
      I think AR glasses are loathed.

      But the camera takes this to extreme anti-social levels.

    • bigfatkitten3 hours ago
      It absolutely would not have received a positive reception at an event like DEF CON. They’ve always had a strict photo policy.
    • secretsatan3 hours ago
      I don’t think so, google glass set the precedent
    • georgemcbay3 hours ago
      Google Glass came out in 2013 and got a similar reception.

      Google's device also suffered from making the user look ridiculous, like a gargoyle out of Snow Crash, but at the end of the day most people had the same core issue with it as they have with the Meta glasses which is that people don't like the idea of being filmed in public, especially when the filming is somewhat surreptitious (since you don't have to hold bulky camera gear, or at least a phone-sized device to do it)

      Of course you have the legal right to film people in public spaces in many jurisdictions, but you're likely to be socially ostracized for it (and IMO rightfully so).

      • BoxwoodSeed2 hours ago
        > people don't like the idea of being filmed in public,

        I don't think that this can be the main issue, given how nobody really cares about security cameras in public spaces or all the cameras modern cars can come with, nevermind dash cams.

        • yallpendantools8 minutes ago
          I think it has to do with how closely people think they are being recorded.

          Someone filming/shooting in a park with a kit 18-55mm lens is fine. Swap that with a bulky 300mm or more and you are bound to get some questions asked.

          A content creator casually shooting content in a mall is fine but if you start interviewing people, aiming your camera directly at them, it's at least common courtesy if not legal requirement to ask for permission.

          Personally speaking, I wouldn't mind someone wearing these creeper specs in public but if they talk to me or if we eat at the same table, I would expect the courtesy of them putting the glasses away.

        • mrdatawolfan hour ago
          They like to be ignorant of being filmed. I don't mean that as an insult. "Ignorance is bliss"
      • reddit_clone2 hours ago
        I would love a pair of ordinary looking glasses that work just as displays. I go for long walks (for health reasons) and it would be really good to watch youtube videos or shows that gets projected in front of my face, but still keep overall vision outside.

        I definetely don't want a camera in there.

        Not sure if such a beast exists. But due to Meta/Google screwing up with cameras, I may never get my display glasses.

        • lrae28 minutes ago
          XREAL, RayNeo and there is at least one more brand that exists. You could use those for that already - though they're probably not perfect yet for that specific use case.

          But they will come and will get better. Apple is also supposedly still working on some and they'll likely try to get rid of the "camera issue". Or maybe they'll try to make it the new normal. But they already exist and there will be more of them in the future - with and without cameras.

      • bamboozled3 hours ago
        The meta glasses look fucking stupid too. Like a pair of ray bans with water retention issues.
        • georgemcbay3 hours ago
          Yeah, I agree.

          But they look less stupid than Google Glass did and even if they didn't look stupid, people would still consider them "pervert glasses".

          In fact, I think the more indistinguishable these types of devices get from regular glasses the more people will be upset by their existence. The less immediately obvious they are, the more you seem like a creepy pervert for using them when the core problem is people don't want you filming them without their knowledge or consent.

          • JohnFen2 hours ago
            > I think the more indistinguishable these types of devices get from regular glasses the more people will be upset by their existence.

            My fear is that these spy glasses will actually become indistinguishable from corrective glasses. I don't look forward to a future where everyone wearing any sort of glasses will be immediately suspect.

            • Bender2 hours ago
              And not having a distinguishable Bluetooth device ID to detect when one is near. [1] not tested as I do not know anyone with pervert glasses

              [1] - https://github.com/alexh-scrt/glasses-radar

            • Cpoll2 hours ago
              Well, not any sort. We'll just have to stick to wireframe glasses.
    • sublinear2 hours ago
      I am fairly certain the goal of putting cameras on glasses is to poison the well for the rest of wearable computing while also testing the limits of user acceptance.

      They don't care if it succeeds. They just don't want to lose.

  • BoxwoodSeed2 hours ago
    It's so weird to me how people don't like these kind of glasses. They are basically a dash cam for your entire life. Seems like a pretty valuable thing to have.

    The only thing I object to is the facebook association.

    • foobarchu2 hours ago
      It's weird to me that you find that weird. People in general don't like worrying that every little conversation is being recorded.
      • perching_aixan hour ago
        Wouldn't that change if "everyone" did it?

        That "hilarious" and embarrassing misspeak or fall becomes a lot less so when it's a dime a dozen.

        It's weird because it is (right now), not because it's some fundamentally weird thing ordained that way forever during the big bang or whatever.

        Like, people don't like being watched when working, yet they'll sometimes outright forget they're screensharing. I know I do at least.

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    • Ekaros2 hours ago
      It is cool to be one using them. It is infinitely less cool to be one receiving it. Possibly everywhere consistently... Up your face possibly. Or your family members face...