GrapheneOS duress PIN could land a man in prison(www.androidauthority.com)
9 pointsby samtheprogram2 hours ago3 comments
  • spottedmarley2 hours ago
    Im a GrapheneOS user and I don't care what they want to say about it, what's on my phone is as private as what's in my head, and you can't have that either! If he was smart enough to let the agents type in the pin themselves then they're the ones who wiped the phone, not him.
    • JumpCrisscross2 hours ago
      > If he was smart enough to let the agents type in the pin themselves then they're the ones who wiped the phone, not him

      There are interesting legal and ethical questions involved here. But this argument is silly to the point of making the entire case look silly.

      • spottedmarley2 hours ago
        More silly than sending a man to prison for wiping his phone? I think your silly detector may need a firmware update.
        • JumpCrisscross16 minutes ago
          > More silly than sending a man to prison for wiping his phone?

          Invert the sympathies. An ICE agent or pedophile is arrested and pulls this stunt. Is that seriously protected behaviour?

          To be clear, I don't think the agents should be allowed to even request a PIN, much less after refusing demands to speak to a lawyer. But normalising desrruction of evidence is a direct undermining of the rule of law in proportion to one's access to resources.

  • big852 hours ago
    This event is excellent advertisement for GrapheneOS and its privacy and security features.
  • edoceo2 hours ago
    What about if you keep all your secret stuff OFF your phone? Like on a server hosted in more private jurisdiction and encrypted?

    Like I'm in USA and I get a server in Cayman Islands or something?

    Then on my phone I only ever use my secret-site via incognito from Firefox or somethign?

    • rolphan hour ago
      its a catch22, if your phone looks too sterile, it will be considered suspicious.

      you need to keep some salacious texts, maybe some mooning pix, and a shortcut to [chunkybutz.net] so it isnt untypicaly clean.