134 pointsby h1watt6 hours ago22 comments
  • inigyou43 minutes ago
    Walked around Fusion Festival with Bitchat running. Saw about 20 other devices and a few messages. Nobody replied to my messages. So usage isn't zero, but 20 devices out of 80000 people isn't a lot. Most hops I saw was 2, meaning there wasn't enough density to make it any meaningful distance across the festival grounds.
    • Qision35 minutes ago
      That's already a lot for such a niche project.
      • inigyou33 minutes ago
        Many CCCers attend.
  • plebian2 hours ago
    If they care so much about availability maybe they should reconsider including libs.gms.location and be available on F-Droid (https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/merge_requests/24907#...)
  • Cider99862 hours ago
    People interested in BitChat should download it just so you have it in case it gets popular or you find someone to use it with. I tested it and it's surreal to text without WiFi or cellular.
    • allthetime2 hours ago
      Bluetooth chat apps already exist. I used a really shitty looking (but functional) one called Berkanan that I found by searching the App Store for a Bluetooth chat app to talk to friends on ryan air flights where we weren’t sitting together across Europe last year.
      • gritzkoan hour ago
        I think FireChat was the first one, in 2011.
        • freehorse16 minutes ago
          I remember when sending messages and files through IR was a standard default feature in (dump) phones two decades ago. It is a bit sad how technology in some ways regresses when certain anti-incentives apply.
  • RobRivera43 minutes ago
    That name

    Tobias Bluth vibes

    • bad_username39 minutes ago
      IKR? "Where's your Bitchat?" is a question better never uttered to anyone in person.
  • baron3dl2 hours ago
    Bitchat is an AOS (https://andotherstuff.org/#foundry-projects) project. Surprised, they didn't rehost it on ngit (https://gitworkshop.dev/), which is also an AOS project.
  • TranquilMarmotan hour ago
    > Messages route through nearby devices (max 7 hops)

    How far, realistically, could this reach using just iOS and Android devices? If each device can reach ~100m, that means you could theoretically reach somebody 700m (2.3k feet) away? Or would it be further if two devices are at the edge of their radio range?

  • dmix3 hours ago
    That Radicle site design is an interesting take for a git repo platform. Good use of full width spacing, well thought out navigation, nice code rendering. I dig it.
  • momentmakeran hour ago
    For some context, it seems like the Indian government wants Bitchat to be taken down.

    https://xcancel.com/jack/status/2080565084586135773

    • illithid0an hour ago
      Surely this won't have the opposite effect that they're looking for.
      • nfbdhdfbfan hour ago
        It definitely won’t.

        People love pointing out the Streisand effect as though we’re still in the same social media dynamic that we were 30 or 15 years ago. Wake the fuck up.

        Banning the app is 100% certainly going to reduce it all’s usage. The fact that you somehow think you could have the opposite effect is a sign that your head is buried so deep in the sand and you have no idea what the current state of the world is.

        The authoritarians are winning and their censorship and propaganda has been exceptionally effective. Clinging to idealistic slogans and denying reality is a great way to accomplish nothing

        • qphe95an hour ago
          Well banning it pushed it to Radicle and now people are moving to GitHub alternatives so I think the Streisand effect worked.
          • mastaxan hour ago
            Did banning it cause it to get adopted even faster in India than it otherwise would have? That seems like the salient point to me.
            • freehorse11 minutes ago
              I dont have data for any country, but if anything banning it from github gave it visibility (I personally learnt of it because of that). I don't think that banning it from github hurts its distribution really because I do not expect github to be the channel it gets popularised through as opposed to social media, in which case where the source code is hosted does not really matter. If it gets banned from the app stores, though, it will be a different issue that will definitely hurt.
            • culi44 minutes ago
              Likely faster than it would've otherwise but not likely as fast as it needs to to succeed. Similar to when Twitter got bought out and then Musk banned people who linked their Mastodon. It certainly helped Mastodon in the short term but likely hurt it in the long term
        • wat10000an hour ago
          The Streisand effect only works for things people are interested in to begin with. People love embarrassing photos about celebrities so it works great on those. "A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging app with dual transport architecture." Oops, you've already lost everyone.
          • freehorse8 minutes ago
            Also it works if you can still actually install it. If they ban it from the app store in ios, there is no practical way people can install it on iphones. But if it is just github, it does not really create much of an issue (people found another hosting platform).
        • ranger_dangeran hour ago
          When people talk about the Streisand Effect, they usually refer to content that someone wants to disappear entirely, not merely lower its usage.

          In that regard the effect is effective in making sure bitchat cannot vanish from the internet.

          We can argue that overall usage of it might still go down, but I don't think anyone was arguing that.

  • qwertyastronaut2 hours ago
    I can’t wait until Goblin is acquired by Nematode. Then finally they might make Gorbachev open source.
    • ronsor2 hours ago
      And I thought Poob already had it for you.

      Too many proper nouns in titles.

      • inigyou42 minutes ago
        For people who know what Bitchat and Radicle and GitHub and India are, though, and saw the Indian government threatened GitHub to remove Bitchat, this is news.
  • xyzsparetimexyz2 hours ago
    Yo where's my
  • Qisionan hour ago
    Is it Jack Dorsey who moved the repo or someone else?
  • thisisnotauser2 hours ago
    I love these posts, every week it's "Gloop is now on Ploof!"
    • TaupeRanger2 hours ago
      And at least one comment references "Curtains for Zoosha"
    • culi40 minutes ago
      it's just two recent examples (Gleam on Tangled and now Bitchat on Radicle) and they're both the same format.

      [Some well-liked but niche tech] switched their code forge to [a decentralized code forge].

      Tbh I'm surprised how many on HN seem unfamiliar with Tangled and Radicle (and Bitchat and Gleam).

    • fookeran hour ago
      It's a basic step to make a plumbis
      • Avicebron41 minutes ago
        It's 2026, learn to flimble. A plumbis won't get far in today's economy.
  • pioneerjeff4 hours ago
    Are there any special features comparing with other decentrilized message product? Such as Nostr or XMTP?
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  • imtringued3 hours ago
    I hope they will enjoy fighting with https://radicle.dev/ over the project name.
    • 2color43 minutes ago
      Radicle contributor here.

      It's the same project. radicle.dev is for the protocol, radicle.network is for the network explorer.

      Note that that radicle.network is a static site that you can also self host: https://radicle.network/nodes/rosa.radicle.network/rad:z4V1s...

    • cosmojg3 hours ago
      I'm pretty sure that's the same project.
    • chanux3 hours ago
      I assumed they are the same :-O
    • lostmsu3 hours ago
      One seems to be built on top of the other? Very confusing though, I agree.
      • varun_ch2 hours ago
        I found https://radicle.dev/2026/04/23/domain-move

        It sounds like both are the same project, one is the “explorer” which is on a different domain so that censoring it doesn’t impact the main site

      • IshKebab3 hours ago
        I think radicle.dev is the software that lets you store issues and PRs inside a Git repo, and radicle.network is some kind of interface to people's hosts that run the Radicle software. Something like that?

        I agree it's super confusing though and their explanation isn't exactly clear:

        https://radicle.network/principles

        • behindsight2 hours ago
          the main reason they mentioned [1] for radicle.network is because their old domain radicle.xyz was blocked in some places by some lists that they think was because it may have hosted certain UGC that triggered some flags.

          > Content about Radicle (explainers, guides, download links, blog posts) which is under control of the Radicle team. We will use radicle.dev for these purposes.

          > Content on Radicle (repositories hosted on practically any node on the network) which the Radicle team has only very little control over, accessible via Radicle Explorer. Going forward, our deployment of Radicle Explorer will not be hosted on app.radicle.xyz anymore, but instead it will be hosted at radicle.network.

          > The idea is of course that if there are complaints about or issues with radicle.network in the future, we hope that radicle.dev stays largely unaffected and people can continue to inform themselves about Radicle and learn how to set it up.

          On a semi-related note, this is a good time to remind anyone that hasn't yet heard of the Public Suffix List (PSL) [2][3] to make sure you put your domains that may be hosting UGC in the form <usercontent>.<yourdomain>.<tld> (ie: eTLDs) on that list so browsers and other block lists are aware that the user provisioned subdomains are UGC and not from your site so it properly isolates cookies/site grouping and won't flag your entire domain as malicious.

          1: https://radicle.dev/2026/04/23/domain-move

          2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Suffix_List

          3: https://github.com/publicsuffix/list

          • inigyou41 minutes ago
            What if you disagree with the centralisation of the internet into some guy's suffix list?
        • ckchengan hour ago
          Yes, I think it’s like a decentralized GitHub?
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  • guess_who_is_it3 hours ago
    jack promoted censorship when he was in twitter, now he is playing the saint card.
    • inigyou37 minutes ago
      All social media is censored. If you think yours isnt, you're free to test that hypothesis by posting the N word over and over. I suspect you'll find that you get censored for doing so.
    • bigyabai2 hours ago
      Dorsey's legacy is promoting cryptocurrency. Censorship is part-and-parcel with owning any social media.

      I wouldn't worry about people going sweet on him anytime soon.

  • xyst2 hours ago
    In theory, this could work.

    Setup machine with bluetooth receiver.

    Funnel packets from Bluetooth receiver over a virtual private network (ie, wireguard, tailscale, netbird).

    Then in another state/country/continent with server connected to vpn then rebroadcasts those packets over BLE.

    A mesh network overlayed on top of another mesh network.

  • ck23 hours ago
    btw what's the current state of mesh wifi?

    seems like after November or January 2029 might need it since administration now has a kill-switch so why wouldn't they use it

    • inigyou40 minutes ago
      Mesh networks don't scale beyond a few thousand nodes if the nodes move frequently. Nobody has found a way to make that work. You can push another order of magnitude if you give up on decentralisation.
  • VCFundedGenYer3 hours ago
    Such a terrible name. Can't believe marketing didn't catch it.
    • culi3 hours ago
      Probably on purpose. Like "Broken, But Whole"
      • inigyou39 minutes ago
        South Park: The Fractured But Whole is the title of a video game, because it's South Park and they do that sort of thing.
        • culi37 minutes ago
          Ah yeah, that was the name. Thanks
    • logicchains2 hours ago
      It could be deliberate. Like Wechat's Chinese name is "Weixin", which is a pun on "for sex" in Mandarin (for which its "people nearby" feature originally saw heavy usage). As a decentralized social network, Bitchat might see similar usage.
      • subscribedan hour ago
        Maybe. I have bitchat installed and on in the rather large city. I have yet to see another person on :)
  • zenethian4 hours ago
    Is this bit-chat or bitch-at?
    • subscribed4 hours ago
      Yes :)
    • logicchains2 hours ago
      Find out on expertsexchange.com
      • all22 hours ago
        Have you ever heard of the rather excellent Pen Island, vendors of fine pens? On my work computer, so you can plumb the internet archive for yourself.
      • subscribedan hour ago
        Thanks, in a bit, I'm browsing therapistfinder.com right now.
    • embedding-shape3 hours ago
      Sounds like a suitable addition to the ATProto ecosystem :)
    • dmboyd3 hours ago
      Or a misspelling of bitch hat
    • xyst2 hours ago
      BitchX was already taken
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    • HumblyTossed2 hours ago
      Yep.
    • tamimio4 hours ago
      It depends on whom you’re talking to
      • inigyou38 minutes ago
        > It depends on whom you're bitching at

        FTFY

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  • orliesaurus4 hours ago
    Is this irc compatible?
    • embedding-shape3 hours ago
      Everything is pointing towards a hard "no", but I didn't dig deeper than literally read the first sentence in the README:

      > A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging app with dual transport architecture: local Bluetooth mesh networks for offline communication and internet-based Nostr protocol for global reach. No accounts, no phone numbers, no central servers. It's the side-groupchat.

    • culi3 hours ago
      How would it be? Bitchat is for offline communication over Bluetooth Low Energy networks
    • inigyou37 minutes ago
      only if you make it so.
    • jbverschoor4 hours ago
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