229 pointsby kensai6 hours ago12 comments
  • GiffertonThe3rd4 hours ago
    The video at around 3.30min, where the robot arm took 3 attempts to reseat the window trim, was quite unnerving - I have not seen such resolving before. Is it new or am I way out of the loop?
  • vessenes4 hours ago
    Really interesting. Upshot: a well trained multimodal video generation model has a world representation model trained inside it. They’ve done some work lifting this world model out and deploying it to robots, where it seems to work well.

    On the one hand, this isn’t a new idea, and the quality video models certainly have understanding of materials, light, the world (at least in an Occam’s razor sense of understanding). I’m not aware of a video lab that’s turned itself into a robot lab yet, though; perhaps this would be a first, or a new sort of obvious-in-retrospect business path: train video model, sell video generation, scale, use scale to train robot things: profit.

    I found their hands very interesting - looks like a bunch of stuff hidden in gloves - Xiami’s Robotics-1 foundation model just released videos of users training on some pretty standard looking grippers; to the point that there are demo videos of people putting on gripper type gloves to make video to train that model.

    The BFL model looks like it doesn’t need that at all. Given the difficulty of the hardware side, I’ll be curious to see what they do with this.

  • altern82 hours ago
    This is awesome.

    What's sad to me is that we have all this awesome technology, but movies are worse than ever.

    I usually watch movies from decades ago just to find something decent and it's amazing how with goofy-looking puppets the storytelling was 1000 times better.

    This is probably an unrelated rant, sorry

    • phoghed2 hours ago
      Survivorship bias, possible that you just aren’t watching all the shitty ones that nobody remembers.
      • altern82 hours ago
        That's exactly the ones I like! On Saturdays I watch cheesy horror movies from the 80s.

        But with my GF I watch whatever is rated >= 8 on Imdb and the 8s from years ago are ALWAYS much, much better than the recent ones.

        Maybe I just don't like the style. All the over explaining, etc.

        • vanviegenan hour ago
          I think most movies drop a bit in IMDb score over their first few years. That might (partly) explain it. Or you just prefer older movies . :-)
      • acdanger2 hours ago
        time is the great filter
        • altern82 hours ago
          What's a good recent movie I could watch? Today is Friday
          • phoghed5 minutes ago
            Was going to pull out my default recommendation of Oldboy but then I realized it’s 23 years old, which just aged me greatly
  • flufluflufluffy3 hours ago
    Ok the phrasing here, it’s, it’s just -

    > However, compared to more specialized approaches for representation learning they produce less disentangled representations, which puts a ceiling on their usefulness for tasks that require world understanding.

    Only an LLM would use a less disentangled representation of the concept “more entangled” when trying to explain to people in the real world why less disentangled representations are not as useful for modeling the real world.

    • pennomi3 hours ago
      Bad news, humans write silly things all the time. If anything, LLMs are less likely to make awkward phrasings than people, because they aren’t found in the training data very often.
    • phoghed2 hours ago
      We’re just pulling signs of LLM touched writing out of our ass now. Might be time to move on from the accusations, assume all writing is at least LLM assisted and judge it purely on the quality.
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  • rlupi5 hours ago
    It's nice to see partnerships between European startups.
  • doubleorseven3 hours ago
    this is the future. but also the present.

    if you know some one out of the software development/engineering worlds, please forward this to them

  • htrp3 hours ago
    OpenAi cries in sora
  • takd4 hours ago
    Amazing work.

    u.i. Zugló robot mikor?

  • idiotsecant3 hours ago
    We're barreling head-on into a crisis where humans have even less value unless they own the means of production. Dark days ahead, friends.
  • deton39915 hours ago
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  • johnbarron4 hours ago
    If Amazon does not buy them, the CEO should be fired...
    • kensai3 hours ago
      Are you American? We would prefer it to stay a European company. I personally hope Mistral buys them or somehow they unite to make a stand.
      • Tenoke2 hours ago
        Mistral is much worse in its respective field than Flux in their own so I hope not.
        • vanviegenan hour ago
          Perhaps.. Mistral seems to be focussing more on LLM application rather than foundation models. Seeing that the latter may be becoming commodities, Mistral may come out ahead.
    • Yokohiiian hour ago
      BFL resides in the same region as BMW and Audi. Quite wealthy and pretty fierce to protect their car industry. If Audi or any other german car maker sees BFL as the future of automation, it will be rather hard to buy them out.
    • windexh8er3 hours ago
      I think you meant to type "promoted".