74 pointsby robin_reala6 hours ago28 comments
  • klausa5 hours ago
    A better link might be https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/future_banknotes/ht..., which has all of the proposals on a single page for easier browsing.
    • kaizenb4 hours ago
      I wish I've seen this before clicking 2359 times :/ Thanks anyway at least now I can share the right experience with people so they won't suffer like me.

      Also I like birds. H looks nice.

    • SiempreViernes5 hours ago
      Not sure if it is much better, the images are tiny on that version and the companion text explaining the designs seems to be missin (though that sort of text you can usually do without).
      • klausa5 hours ago
        The actual images are pretty big so you can just use your browser's native zooming capabilities.

        I found that much nicer than constantly clicking to show the reverse sides, but to each their own!

        • morjom5 hours ago
          The article one also misses on the size differences across notes. Not the biggest deal, but should be shown.
  • spaceman_20204 hours ago
    So many of these have some building as the backdrop, but all the buildings are modernist skyscrapers and uninspired office buildings

    Europe doesn't have a dearth of stunning architecture. Have they all been discarded in favor of ugly straightline modernist sloptitecture because they might be construed as offensive for some reason?

    • ketzu4 hours ago
      > but all the buildings are modernist skyscrapers and uninspired office buildings

      Because they are the european institutions, eg the EU parliament building, EU comission, etc.

      They are mostly office buildings.

    • thisisold4 hours ago
      These are the central institutions of the European Union. That’s why there’re portrayed in the notes
    • rsynnott3 hours ago
      These are EU government buildings; unlike the bridges in the current notes, they’re real structures, not an archetype. The EU likes a giant office block, generally.
    • TitaRusell4 hours ago
      Disclaimer: IDGAF haven't used cash in years

      Europe is a continent with countries that have literally centuries of enimity and nationalism between them. You cannot put a French building on a banknote.

      Bland and inoffensive is what keeps the Union together. Its why Strasbourg exists. Its why there are Dutch translators despite the fact every Dutch member of parliament speeches in English.

      • tialaramex2 hours ago
        I don't know that it's about "Bland and inoffensive" so much as about recognition that differences are fine. Two football teams don't agree about which team is best - but they do agree the rules of football. Without that there is no game.

        Having multiple languages is more of that "differences are fine". The use of Directives rather than Regulations for many purposes allows a country's government to incorporate local differences in how we do things. A Regulation applies everywhere, but the Directive just tells your government to make local law to meet some goal. What we want to achieve is the same in Paris and San Gimignano but how we do it will vary by local culture.

      • derdi2 hours ago
        I mean, half of these proposals put specific people from specific countries on banknotes. So it's hard to argue that it would be impossible to do the same with buildings.
  • morjom5 hours ago
    For me, across all of them only two felt actually decent for a bank note (B & E, I is okay, just not used to bank notes in that orientation, same for J, but that one should be more monochrome). Either they were too vibrant or the design was too busy/had unnecesary elements.

    I also feel like the notes that had buildings (like we have now) are just.. better. The initial run of 2002-2013 remains the best aesthetically, imo.

    • tialaramex5 hours ago
      I prefer the Birds & Rivers theme because nobody is expecting a specific bird to meet some arbitrary ideal whereas if you put identifiable humans on a banknote people start to mistake their inevitable flaws for a desirable property. I feel this more strongly for statues, but it seems desirable for the Euro or any potential international currency too.
      • morjom5 hours ago
        I'm partial for statues, and birds and rivers is a good theme. I feel like if they sticked to the semi-monochrome of the previous notes I'd be more favorable to them aswell. Monochrome might be the wrong word, ESL.

        For reference, the two previous runs at the top of the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_banknotes

        • tialaramex3 hours ago
          Monochrome means "single colour". Typically shades of that colour are included, so if something was dark purple lines on a light purple background we might say that's monochrome. In some cases it's taken to mean that there's just black/ grey/ white, but here it makes sense to say that e.g. one note is green, another blue, but no individuals notes are a mix of green and blue, they're monochrome.

          Since you mentioned English isn't your first language, this use of the "to stick" verb where it's about adhering to something (metaphorically in your case) has a different past participle, "stuck". You wrote "sticked" which makes sense but isn't used for this meaning today. Nobody will misunderstand but it will sound wrong to them, we'd say e.g. "Perhaps if we'd stuck with Zig the game would be finished by now" or "Somebody stuck their chewing gum to the table".

          Most of these new designs are monochrome excepting that the European flag is itself blue because that's what colour the flag is. A few of them are more colourful, and I see what you mean about that adding to clutter. For their purpose they're successful because the big reason to use colour is that people with very poor sight (some of whom are legally blind but do retain some ability to determine colour) can tell a red note from a blue one, the small accents in a different colour won't affect that. If your sight is good enough to figure out it's a European flag, you don't need this cue, you can read the large numerals saying "100" nearby to determine it's a €100 note.

  • timpera4 hours ago
    I try to pay everything in cash as much as I can, so it's nice to see the banknotes get some love from the ECB (even though the absence of €1 and €2 banknotes still hurts…).

    I think it's a bit strange to feature people on these, plus it would be difficult to agree on who to feature between the 21 € states. The birds look cool! But it would have been nice to modernize the current architecture-based design rather than feature random EU office buildings.

  • grim_io5 hours ago
    Birds are clearly superior.
    • hinata085 hours ago
      I don't like to have silhouettes instead of people on the back, and that buildings related to the current institutions are featured on so many designs

      These are a current necessities, but nothing to sanctuarize for the future. The only thing that should remain stable in Europe are ideas, and the Swiss got it better on their notes

      • tialaramex2 hours ago
        > These are a current necessities, but nothing to sanctuarize for the future.

        Although the ECB does not today "withdraw" notes in the sense that they cease to be valid for most purposes, it does deliberately destroy old notes and issue new ones with different images to replace them, so the original series must be getting pretty rare by now - not rare enough to be worth serious collectors paying money for it, but your ten year old may never have seen an actual old Euro €500 note even though in principle those still are valid money in the Eurozone.

    • pelagicAustral5 hours ago
      Design H ftw
    • kaizenb4 hours ago
      Birds are the way.
    • sunaookami4 hours ago
      Birds aren't real.
      • mytailorisrich4 hours ago
        That's exactly why they are a better choice, like the imaginary bridges on current Euro banknotes.

        The selection of people is also quite poor but that's because people are a poor choice: Most notable historical people are very linked to specific countries, often against other countries so picking neutral ones is hard. They also clearly decided to have an equal number of men and women, which makes it even harder. Obviously there aren't enough different banknotes to represent every country, either.

      • Good4boothee4 hours ago
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    • vrganj4 hours ago
      I feel like birds are the superior front, but boring EU buildings are the worse back.

      I'd like the birds front with the other option for the back (public squares or something?)

  • broken-kebab4 hours ago
    Flip sides on all of them look like they are taken from a random free vector illustrations archive.
    • TacticalCoder4 hours ago
      Yup terribly bad. I pick the birds: those with portraits of people are really badly fucked up and the faces do not integrate well at all with the notes.

      The current ones are much better looking than any of those.

  • fodkodrasz5 hours ago
    I wonder why do we need new notes... but I guess running some competition is not a tragedy.

    You can see all side-by-side here: https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/future_banknotes/ht...

    My takes:

    Designs A and B and I are not terrible, but I'm not impressed.

    Design C - the backside looks like the worst soulless corporate landing page graphics (Corporate Memphis style?).

    Design D and E, H are okayish. Possibly I'd prefer something along these lines.

    Design F has very strange coloring, the watercolor and sketch effect looks nice on screen, but I think more filled and more monochrome notes are more conventional and accepted, also some are bicolor. Not bad, but I'd not like it in everyday use probably.

    Design G is somehow not good looking, I cannot phrase it. Both the font, and also the backsides scenes are meh, even the modernist buildings are better on some other series.

    Design J : the creepy abstract cartoon people on the backside ruin it. Also somehow not aesthetically pleasing, but not catastrophic.

    • frb4 hours ago
      > I wonder why do we need new notes...

      Every redesign introduces new (secret) watermarks, patterns that are hard to copy, so it's also a "tech" update. Eventually more and more of the details become public. By now the current banknotes are too well known and I guess the counterfeits are getting too close.

      • LukaD4 hours ago
        > Every redesign introduces new (secret) watermarks, patterns that are hard to copy, so it's also a "tech" update. Eventually more and more of the details become public. By now the current banknotes are too well known and I guess the counterfeits are getting too close.

        But if I wanted to create counterfeit euro bank notes I could just go with the old ones, no?

        Anyway, I think creating new designs just for fun is a good enough reason for me to create new notes.

        • frb4 hours ago
          Old bank notes are not in circulation forever. They are accounted for by serial numbers. Banks and ATMs can process the serials and designs and report them. Eventually bank notes get pulled out of circulation. So an old bank note is by default suspicious and gets checked more thoroughly. Counterfeiters mostly benefit by blending in with the masses, so having some old note can raise suspicion.

          Maybe it is also just fun...

        • rcxdude4 hours ago
          The old ones get pulled out of circulation and usually stop being accepted at most places, or at least get more scrutiny.
    • soco4 hours ago
      I love H, and I mean it - not only acceptable but even pleasing to me, quite surprising to say. A and B stayed too long in the sun, C indeed is PowerPoint heaven, D is fun but in a circus entry ticket way, E reminds me of a school book and not in the good way, F ouch my eyes too much going on, G okayish but doesn't feel like a banknote but rather... flyers? I - spilled its colors in a watercolor cleaning water way, and finally J is too photo-realistic to look banknote-ish to me.

      PS you can even vote for them! https://surveys.ecb.europa.eu/10b/neweuro/

    • HackerThemAll4 hours ago
      > I wonder why do we need new notes...

      An average lifetime of a banknote is 1-2 years for smaller amounts, 2-4 years for bigger ones. It is estimated that 15-25% of all banknotes are replaced every year. From about 30 billion individual banknotes in circulation that makes 4.5B to 7.5B each year.

      So why not introduce new designs (and new protections?)

  • robin_reala3 hours ago
    Incidentally, there’s an open role at the ECB for “Traineeship in environmental sustainability in banknote production”, sounds like a fun job for the right person: https://talent.ecb.europa.eu/careers/JobDetail/Traineeship-i...
  • thyristan5 hours ago
    There were some clearly superior suggestions they left out: https://xcancel.com/The_Davos_Man/status/2080383908823081426

    ;)

  • nkmnz4 hours ago
    The survey is completely useless. Just let me vote on pairs of designs which I like more, then aggregate the data. It's not that hard to program and a hundred times more accurate and useful.
  • nottorp5 hours ago
    Are they going to switch to plastic while they're at it?

    That's the only thing I'll miss if Romania ever switches to Euro. Cash you can launder. Literally.

    • cmoski4 hours ago
      I assumed everywhere except the USA had converted to plastic... It's so much better.
  • _bent3 hours ago
    F looks incredible, H is also great. They are all pretty good, except for maybe A and E which I find dull. I prefer the birds and buildings, though of the finalists with people on them I find C rather striking. Hopefully whichever wins will look like the original design after being finalized for printing, it would be a shame if they had to dull the colors or rearrange the layout for security features etc
  • minkeymaniac3 hours ago
    B (with the bird) brings back 100 guilder vibes. https://europost.nl/winkel/bankbiljetten/nederland-ba/nederl...
  • fdegmecic4 hours ago
    art from Milos Zlatanovic for Serbian notes is still unmatched.
    • TitaRusell4 hours ago
      Yeah but would Croatia use notes designed by a Serb?

      Never underestimate the pettiness of man.

  • opengrass35 minutes ago
    E
  • vrganj5 hours ago
    Why is it all either the same people or the same birds?

    Was that an explicit part of the brief artists were given?

    I feel like the selection of motifs is more interesting and where more of the creative process in defining a representation of Europe lies than just how to draw and layout those motifs.

    • klausa5 hours ago
      • gherkinnn4 hours ago
        Offensively dull. One shudders to think about the endless bickering that went in to this.

        May I propose 6 shades of off-white adorned with geometric shapes. €5 gets dots, €10 lines, €20 triangles and so on. €100 may have pentagrams instead of pentagons to keep Twitter on its toes.

        • klausa4 hours ago
          I don’t know; I think the fact that the designs are so different from each other is actually a testament to the fact that the brief was actually pretty well written, because it allowed so many different interpretations!

          And that’s only the finalist 10; I’d genuinely love to see the whole submission set.

        • Dilettante_4 hours ago
          Pentagons are plenty occult fnord!
      • vrganj5 hours ago
        As an Austrian, it feels a bit annoying that the Germans got their one famous composer - they're kind of our thing! Why not Mozart, Strauss, Haydn, Schubert?

        It's also unfortunate that the nice peaceful bird motif was paired with the ugly modern buildings on the other side.

        • abc123abc1234 hours ago
          Don't you worry. This is a political process and politicians are basically big children, so no country will ever accept notes without someone famous from their country on the note.

          So al will be watered down to abstract art or animals in the end, so that the suggestion with the least amount of friction gets accepted.

          Like all decision in democracy, it is not about finding the best solution, it's about the solution with the least nr of votes against it. That is why democracy never works in the long term, because it is a long, drawn out, trip to the bottom.

          • izacus4 hours ago
            TBH the only acceptable approach here would be similar to coins - where each member state may print their own people on some of the notes to keep representation.

            Putting 6 people of 27 member states is just asking for trouble and lacks representation.

            (I still prefer the current approach of using non-existing bridgets as a motif.)

        • matthiasv4 hours ago
          > Mozart

          I don't want to open old wounds but Mozart's nationality is debated and warrants its own long Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart%27s_nationality

        • holgerschurig4 hours ago
          At least you can be sure that Germans won't "adopt" them, e.g. you can often read "the german architect Hundertwasser" or "the german author Kafka" :-/

          On the other side: most classic composers are from times when there was no Germany. E.g. J. S. Bach is from Sachsen-Eisenach :-)

          • gherkinnn4 hours ago
            In a similar vein, who gets to claim Nicola Tesla?

            Europe used to be much more of a mess than today's neatly drawn nation states, retroactively assigning origin is a silly endeavour.

        • tacker20003 hours ago
          Bertha von Suttner on the 200 EUR is Austrian
          • haunter3 hours ago
            I've never seen a 200€ note irl (and not the no more printed but still legal tender 500€ either)
        • klausa5 hours ago
          I'm sure most countries will have their pet peeves with this; I've seen a bunch of Polish people being upset about the phrasing of Marie Curie's name already.
        • cisophrene5 hours ago
          > Germans got their one famous composer

          I think you just made J.S. Bach roll over in his grave.

          And don't forget: Brahms, Handel, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Richard Strauss, Wagner.

          The competition is not so one-sided.

        • maxnoe4 hours ago
          Because he composed the anthem?
    • thyristan5 hours ago
      The people and birds (and I think the buildings as well) were selected by a committee beforehand, to make sure they represent all of the EU, aren't controversial, yadayada...
    • SiempreViernes5 hours ago
      Yeah, the motifs was probably part of the brief as picking the symbols to represent the entire EU is incredibly political and its just best to separate that discussion from the deeply subjective "what looks best" discussion.
  • jck864 hours ago
    That's pretty terrible. I guess only design H looks like it could be real money.

    And what are the options they give? I guess historical people with weird abstract community settings or birds with office buildings. Is that all the EU represents?

    Whatever they go for I hope they do not open the can of worms that is historical people, or any people for that matter. It will start all kinds of tiresome discussions and people will draw on them making it difficult use defaced bills.

    If you really want historical people as a gesture of appreciation or celebration of their achievements then make that a limited edition.

  • h1fra4 hours ago
    I love they don't explain what's in the banknote. Am I suppose to know everything? jeez
  • ChrisArchitectan hour ago
    Announcement release: https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2026/html/ecb.pr2607...

    I kept wondering what all the people and birds were, there's a table on this Motifs page: https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2025/html/ecb.pr2501...

  • impure4 hours ago
    What's with all the birds? Also I like A the best. It's very modern.
    • latexr3 hours ago
      > What's with all the birds?

      From the brief:

      > “Rivers and birds” highlights the resilience and diversity of Europe’s natural ecosystems by showcasing different stages of rivers and various bird species, emphasising the importance of nature and environmental protection. The European institutions featured on the banknotes remind us of the fundamental values of the European project, which also embraces environmental protection.

      https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2025/html/ecb.pr2501...

  • antonmks3 hours ago
    Definitely birds all the way, with fashionable vertical design.
  • Devasta5 hours ago
    They really shouldn't be people. Birds are fine, but I like the bridges, why are the moving away from those?
  • Cider99863 hours ago
    Should let companies advertise on banknotes.
  • derdi2 hours ago
    I don't like having people on banknotes, for the simple reason that one day a French lobby group would decide that Napoleon is a great European who deserves to be on one.

    I think the buildings are ugly, and D does its best to obscure them. So that's my winner.

    F has very strong "Soviet children's book" vibes.

  • Cider99863 hours ago
    I and J are bad fits.
  • carlosjobim3 hours ago
    Who is the smug lady?
  • shimonabi4 hours ago
    I don't like the designs.

    I didn't even know who the person on the 200€ bill is until today and I have a suspicion she was chosen by some woke EU bureaucrat. I'm sure Europe had better persons in its history.

    If Maria Callas is suitable for currency, why not put Daft Punk on it?

    • latexr3 hours ago
      > I didn't even know who the person on the 200€ bill is until today

      Considering she was a pretty big deal, it’s telling that your reaction to learning about someone important you had no knowledge of is to use bland unsubstantiated accusations to insult the person who made the pick instead of “interesting, I should’ve known, I wonder why I haven’t learned about her in school (or have since forgotten), let me deepen my understanding of who this person was and her relevance”.

    • vrganj4 hours ago
      As an Austrian, Bertha von Suttner is a big deal. First woman to win a Nobel Peace prize (and probably the reason that prize exists in the first place!), second woman to win a Nobel ever (after Curie). Your ignorance of her is not an indictment of "woke bureaucrats".

      Daft Punk honestly sounds cool, but we probably shouldn't be putting any living personalities on there. Feels kinda weird.

      • latexr3 hours ago
        > we probably shouldn't be putting any living personalities on there. Feels kinda weird.

        Weird and ill-advised. Living people who appear on bank notes tend to be monarchs and dictators. Imagine having someone on the euro notes that suddenly becomes overtly anti-EU. Not a good call to promote someone who’s against you.

        Remember when Star Trek mentioned Musk? That did not age well.

        https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-discovery-elon-musk-joke-star-...

  • pestatije5 hours ago
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    • embedding-shape5 hours ago
      Yeah, I don't know why the cleaners of the parliament buildings aren't putting forward their own economic proposals either, clearly they have time to sit sometimes, might as well write proposals for new regulation.