80 pointsby surprisetalk15 hours ago7 comments
  • softwaredoug15 hours ago
    When you see Chinese emerging AI dominance, you can’t help but connect it to the administrations hostility to immigration and research.

    We should be attracting and retaining the world’s top researchers, not driving them away with dysfunction and xenophobia.

    In the past it’d be hard for Chinese labs to retain researchers. Now the upside to the US isn’t there.

    • abernard115 hours ago
      When I see Chinese (open source) emerging AI dominance...

      what I see is a chronically corrupt set of Bay Area companies who stole open source software, pretended there was an AI god around the corner, and wanted to be regulated so the federal government could backstop their failed gambit.

      In other words, Tuesday in San Francisco.

    • enaaem15 hours ago
      Even if you don't care about abstract woke moral concepts, the biggest problem with white supremacists is how terrible they are at governing. They have already decided what the problems are and have zero interest in finding real solutions.
      • mercer14 hours ago
        I imagine they do have 'real solutions' that are a bigger problem to some than their inability to govern is...
  • awinter-py15 hours ago
    comments on this at MR are brutal

    it's one at the top like 'maybe you guys shouldn't have built a network to launder chuds huh' followed by like 50 chuds defending the funding cuts because of DEI keywords in the grants

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  • ck215 hours ago
    there is one single person who is driving 99% of the damage

    Russell Vought

    everyone knows who Stephen Miller is but Russell Vought is the real monster

    for perspective, he got rid of the very programs that developed a drug to keep his child alive from a rare genetically inherited disease

    now you get what we are dealing with

    and here's the thing, Vance is the handpicked successor by Heritage Foundation so even if Trump goes away someday, the nightmare will continue if not get even worse

    might take a century to recover, I don't see how this is overcome in a mere decade

    • CuriouslyC15 hours ago
      The Republicans are either going to get absolutely shellacked, in which case a lot of this stuff is going to get rolled back, or we're going to end up with an autocracy, in which case shit is going to get much worse.
      • mikeyouse15 hours ago
        Even in the first option, it is so much easier to destroy something than to build it. This is causing damage that will take a generation to reverse. Why would any foreign students choose to study here if we’re one election from deporting them and banning them from working here?
      • bakies13 hours ago
        Rolling this stuff back doesn't instantly restart all of the science that was built up for decades. Nor does it get the smartest people back into the country after being kicked out or scared to stay.

        Damage is done, we'll forever be behind, this isn't the place to go to research anymore.

      • ck214 hours ago
        they aren't going to get "shellacked"

        that would seem logical but it has nothing to do with logic

        this happened because 50% of latinos (natural born, naturalized) voted for the Orange Infant because THEY DONT CARE about anything else except they thought it would give them an economic edge and pull up the ladder behind them

        they aren't going to go vote Democratic this election, at best they might stay home because they don't want ICE disappearing them for weeks while they pointlessly argue they are citizens

        if the Democrats don't get the Senate, country is done, and I don't think they can get the Senate even if gas was $5

        elections are now won by 1% or 2% and people staying home is not enough to change things, they'd have to vote Democrat which they are too spiteful to do

        just imagine the damage by 2029 if the Democrats don't get the Senate

        remember even with full impeachment, Vance becomes President and that would be a NIGHTMARE even worse than what we have now, they will double-down in spite

        winning the House is just going to be a puppet-show for two years

        • mcphage12 hours ago
          > with full impeachment, Vance becomes President and that would be a NIGHTMARE even worse than what we have now

          Vance has no popularity or support. Right now Trump is able to destroy the country because congress is doing nothing, and they're doing nothing because they're afraid of Trump. I don't think they'll be afraid of Vance.

    • softwaredoug15 hours ago
      Also the courts that let him get away with it.

      That said Congress can and does sometimes make the funding less discretionary. They can mandate expenditures. And make withholding legal funds personally painful for OMB. They also haven’t don’t this yet.

  • the_real_cher15 hours ago
    Ive worked in federally funded instituions.

    The places I worked were essentially white collar welfare.

    One could do nothing and collect a paycheck.

    Not saying all federally finded places are like this but this system is ripe for abuse and I dont know how you elimiate the abuse while still giving the deserving scientists the funding they need.

    • duozerk14 hours ago
      > The places I worked were essentially white collar welfare.

      > One could do nothing and collect a paycheck.

      Outside of startups this accurately describes almost the entirety of private entities I've seen, at least this past decade (from my impression it's getting a lot worse). Bullshit jobs upon bullshit jobs.

      This is not a public-sector-only problem; in fact from personal impression I'd say private entities are slightly worse in that respect.

  • economistbob15 hours ago
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    • tomhow3 hours ago
      Please don't post grandiose rhetoric like this. HN is not for ideological battle and and the guidelines specifically ask us to avoid flamebait and divisive commentary. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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    • GlibMonkeyDeath14 hours ago
      Lest anyone take this seriously - the above link is a case study of a single person who appears to have had Covid and other health issues for years. The authors in NO WAY establish that their detection of Covid spike proteins and immune response are due to vaccine injury, if you even believe any of their results.

      It's the science-ish equivalent of saying: my Uncle got a vaccination, then walked outside and was hit by a car; thus...

      And of course, go look up one of the authors: https://nicolashulscher.com/. I hate to do the _ad hominem_ thing, but in this case it is warranted - he is a dangerous MAHA idiot.

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        • Zigurd7 hours ago
          Oh man the Earth is not flat enough to prevent "intelligent design" from leaking all over the place. This is the "diversity of thought" Russell Vought is bringing to our universities.
        • GlibMonkeyDeath9 hours ago
          Brandolini's law is strong in this one.

          Let me pick one thing: their main (we-found-alien-life-level) claim that they detected vaccine-derived mRNA and non-functional fragments of the artificial plasmid DNA used in vaccine manufacturing in this person's circulating cells, 3+ years after vaccination. This DNA is supposed to be carefully filtered out BTW before packaging into vaccines, but OK, it's worth thinking about. This DNA would also be degraded quickly if injected - it's linearized before use, but OK let's say multiple processes failed somehow, and some voodoo magic keeps it from being gobbled up. Even they don't outright claim to know how it got there, because any concrete proposed mechanism would either sound extremely implausible or impossible - as it turns out it probably doesn't matter either way (see below.)

          On p. 16 of the paper they claim to detect the actual vaccine mRNA only in exosomes. They could not detect it at all in peripheral blood mononuclear cells, where, even more extraordinarily they claim to have found and sequenced the ori1 and ori2 plasmid backbone used in Pfizer vaccine manufacturing (but crucially, none of the three spike protein sequences that would actually cause immune system problems if transcribed into a protein.) So I don't know what to make of the ori1/2 artifacts, except that I'd check that these sequences were truly unique to the Pfizer process (often these are conserved sequences that many labs use.) Even if they are somehow from the vaccine, and somehow active, they lack the spike sequences so would not produce mRNA in exosomes and thus spike proteins (so irrelevant to their other measurements of spike protein.)

          So where do they think the mRNA in the exosomes come from? Well, if it ISN'T in the PBMC's (which it would be if it was being expressed there), then it has to be in "extracellular vessels" from the original injections. For 3+ years. At detectable concentrations. Mmmm hmmm. They could check this of course because the Pfizer vaccines use specially modified RNA's - that would be a smoking gun, but of course they didn't check this. You know why. You know where else one gets mRNA for spike proteins, that could end up in exosomes? Covid. Or maybe just a recent vaccine injection. Interestingly, they didn't bother to sequence the amplicons of the mRNA that they banded out on a gel - that also would be a pretty convincing indication it was from Pfizer, as any Covid in the wild today would have enough mutations to be identifiable. They did this exact thing for the ori1/2 bands, hmm I wonder why they didn't do this? You know why.

          I could go on, but I have done enough public service for one morning.

  • mono44215 hours ago
    How is that different from forcing dei before? To me, it seems that the Trump administration is doing the same thing as previous administrations, just more openly.
    • n4r915 hours ago
      The DEI regulations were narrowly targeted. These are sweepingly based on "alignment with administration policies and priorities".