62 pointsby reaperducer21 hours ago8 comments
  • asdfasgasdgasdg20 hours ago
    The tribes have a history of being more pragmatic about buildings that would be considered distasteful elsewhere. Smart to at least explore this option, and if deals can be made then it seems like a fine outcome.
    • toast018 hours ago
      A lot of reservation land is owned by the tribe, so the tribal government can approve of the use both as the landowner and as the regulator, and potentially as the court in case of complaints. That does help things get done quickly.

      If a datacenter brings infrastructure with it, such as telecom, grid, and water, that could be a boon as a lot of tribal land has a lack of utilities. There's also a real chance that development will exploit tribal governments without benefiting the tribes.

      • JumpCrisscross18 hours ago
        > If a datacenter brings infrastructure with it, such as telecom, grid, and water

        Or just tax revenue. Big Tech struck some super shady deals–it's caused a backlash. But that doesn't mean the other end of the pendulum's swing makes sense. If your town needs new roads or more teachers or doctors, having an multibillion-dollar immovable asset in its midst is an obvious advantage.

    • RickJWagner11 hours ago
      You’re right. Casinos are exhibit one.

      With the right tribal leadership, generational wealth building is a real possibility.

  • general14654 hours ago
    I have always wondered why tribal lands are not being used for bulletproof hosting, banking institutions without KYC and similar grey area business which can make a lot of money.
  • zzzbra18 hours ago
    Eddington (2025) was a documentary.
  • thelastgallon19 hours ago
    Its a shame that tribal lands aren't being used for solar and wind.
    • zekrioca18 hours ago
      They usually care about industry that can bring local jobs with it, which explains why some of them support coal power plants.
  • abhinai18 hours ago
    Usage of phrases like "Big Tech" and "Targeting" make me believe this article is written with extreme bias even before I click the link.
  • ButlerianJihad19 hours ago
    Talk about "data sovereignty"--imagine if people begin finding out that their data "lives" on servers under jurisdiction of some tribal authority, instead of/alongside the United States!

    Sovereign Indian tribles can practically get away with murder compared to entities that are regulated by ordinary US law. I was recently the victim of some kind of tribal predatory loan service that was way off in Northern California. I looked into it, and determined that there was basically nothing I could do to pursue it legally. It is unclear whether a "tribal loan account" could be legally pursued by ordinary US collection agencies, but it's rather crazy to imagine that kind of activity that targets ordinary Americans.

    • anon29118 hours ago
      If you're not an Indian (us legal term) then I believe you can file a federal case, can you? Tribal law can't supercede basic American law from what I understand especially not when there's a non Indian involved.
      • JumpCrisscross18 hours ago
        > Tribal law can't supercede basic American law

        It does if you're on tribal land–that's generally held to ber sovereign territory by U.S. law (at least for commercial disputes). But if you're an American outside tribal land, and are not an Indian, I believe you're right. (Counterpoint, sort of: Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl [1].)

        [1] https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/570/637/

        • anon2914 hours ago
          This is family law though. That's different. The op said he was defrauded which is criminal.

          If both perp and victim are indian then the tribal courts can handle a criminal case

          But if one is not then it's an automatic federal jurisdiction I believe

        • andsoitis17 hours ago
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  • taurath17 hours ago
    They are going after everything, everywhere because their leadership is sociopathic and believes the means are justified by anything they can get away with.

    Mark had that aha moment that people would just freely give him their data, and had no idea how it could be used against them. He built his entire empire on being able to get away with things that if anyone actually looks at is morally reprehensible, extractive and manipulative. Now the promise of AI is they will control and rule over the productivity and power structure of the whole world via the internet if they can get away with it.