14 pointsby mattas4 hours ago3 comments
  • nubinetwork2 hours ago
    Why does it look like a Citroën ami?

    Edit: apparently stellantis owns Citroën... but so much for brand lines if they're just going to rebadge everything...

  • dyauspitr35 minutes ago
    So stupid. 19 mph top speed. Might as well buy one of those lime electric scooters. $14,000 is bonkers for this toy.
  • jqpabc1233 hours ago
    Too small and too slow.
    • Reubend3 hours ago
      I think there's some hidden demand for a small cheap car, but 19 MPH is indeed too slow. It needs to be able to go at least to slow highway speeds.
      • nubinetwork2 hours ago
        It's meant to be a city car, you'd never be anywhere fast enough to get it up to 55mph. It'll get you to the grocery store and back, although the cargo space might need to be bigger if you're a Costco shopper...
        • jdboyd2 minutes ago
          In the US, something like 39% of the population lives in an urban environment with a population of 50,000 or larger. That means 61% live in smaller areas. In my city of approximately 55,000, it is hard to make do with not leaving the to go to surrounding towns and that almost always means speeds of 45-55mph.

          I'm a little unclear on what cities in the US are large enough that most people wouldn't need a vehicle that can go faster (for the sake of being allowed on the needed roads), and yet would be a city where enough people would want their own car for use inside of the city instead of relying on foot/public transport.

          I think that most likely a successful city car in the US would still need to be able to do a minimum of 45mph, and I could see arguments for 60mph or 70mph as the minimum instead. I could see getting away with all the driving I do in a typical month with something that couldn't do more than 45 though. 19mph is too slow for my typical week, unless it took the form of a cargo bike.

        • setr41 minutes ago
          Idk how big of a market pure city driving would be; I imagine most city traffic sources from the suburbs

          Unless this is meant for like taxis, similar to auto-rickshaws in Southeast Asia. Or maybe short distance car rentals like zipcar?

          • veneficium32 minutes ago
            FIAT's an italian company and there definitely is a market for pure city driving in Italy, it's not huge but it's there, especially amongst younger folks. Personally I don't think this car's particularly fit for the US market, it's not what it was designed for.
        • NewJazz44 minutes ago
          Yeah but there are golf carts that go bigger and faster than this car. At about the same price.
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      • batiudrami2 hours ago
        It’s also very expensive! In Australia a BYDAtto 1, which is a 5 seater full featured hatchback capable of normal speeds, is US$17,000.
        • jackvalentinean hour ago
          A lot of people miss this but Atto 1 is only a four seater.