ActivityPub over ATProto(berjon.com)

41 pointsby albuic3 hours ago4 comments

rapnie3 hours ago
(2023) but worth being reposted, never got a good HN discussion. Between 8 and 12 July there's DWebCamp [0] and many experts and devs on both protocols are present, so opportunity for some good cross-pollination here.
[0] https://dwebcamp.org
- inigyouan hour ago
  Damn, I could've been there, if I'd known about it
- toomuchtodo2 hours ago
  Will content from dwebcamp be online for those unable to make it?
  - rapniean hour ago
    I think so, yes. The videos of the last camp are online as well at https://dwebcamp.org/videos
4lx87an hour ago
RSS/webmention > ActivityPub > ATProto
- spankalee34 minutes ago
  And how does RSS let you move your data to a new host while preserving your identity like AT Proto does?
- jayemaran hour ago
  I don't disagree with the sentiment as I love RSS, but doesn't it have a different use case than ActivityPub or ATProto?
gnashxyzan hour ago
Huge fan of this concept.
nekusar3 hours ago
I can easily install an ActivityPub server, with Glitch.
Show me the ATProto server that can integrate with BlueSky.
- spankalee31 minutes ago
  There is no "AT Proto server" - https://overreacted.io/there-are-no-instances-in-atproto/
- madeofpalk2 hours ago
  > I can easily install an ActivityPub server, with Glitch.
  Can you? The same Glitch that shut down last year? https://blog.glitch.com/post/goodbye-glitch
  Regardless, ActivityPub and ATProto have different designs and goals. Your question is akin to comparing a helicopter and an airplane.
  There's no such thing as a "ATProto server". How complicated it is, and the trade-offs it made are valid criticisms of it. It all depends on what exactly your goal is as a participant of a distributed social network.
  - inigyouan hour ago
    What does ATProto run on, if not servers? Is it fully decentralised mesh P2P that runs on phones?
- riffraffan hour ago
  Never used it, but I've seen some praise for Snac as an easy to deploy activitypub server
  https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2
- master-lincoln2 hours ago
  here https://blog.bront.rodeo/setting-up-your-own-pds/
  - Hoodedcrow36 minutes ago
    The answer here would be "there's no such thing as a generic "server" like in ActivityPub because it's split into different components, of which a PDS is only one".
    Honestly my main question here is "If you disagree with various ActivityPub instances' defederations, you can get around this by starting your own instance that federates with everything; is there an equivalent for bypassing Bluesky's moderation decisions?"
  - nekusar2 hours ago
    [dead]
- well_ackshuallyan hour ago
  A PDS? Here: https://blog.bront.rodeo/setting-up-your-own-pds/
  Want your own AppView so you can have nekusar.net and post your messages and people on BSky see it ? https://github.com/blacksky-algorithms/atproto
  ActivityPub zealots would do well to calm down for one second, this can't be good for your heart man.