163 pointsby theanonymousone4 hours ago18 comments
  • japhyr33 minutes ago
    Growing up in the 80s, I've known (and sung) this song all my life. But I just saw this flowchart for the first time today:

    https://jeannr.tumblr.com/post/165291081/i-made-a-flow-chart...

    I believe that's the original source, but it looks cut off. Here's a full version:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/82/dc/b182dcc291495c013c98...

    • IAmGraydon12 minutes ago
      That's actually a really interesting visualization of a professionally structured verse.
  • parkersweb2 hours ago
    I once worked with a guy mixing TV programmes and live DVDs; I knew he’d been a studio engineer at one point in his career. We were re-arranging our studios one day and as I picked up a pair of NS-10s he casually said “I mixed ‘Total Eclipse of the Heart’ on those…”
    • IAmGraydon21 minutes ago
      Did he mean on a set of NS10s or on THOSE NS10s?
  • auslegung2 hours ago
    Literal music video of Total Eclipse, one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsgWUq0fdKk

    RIP Ms Tyler, you will be missed

  • wigster33 minutes ago
    I went to the Reading Rock Festival back in the 80s. she was viewed very much as middle of the road and when she came on, got roundly booed and many bottles of nefarious liquids were tossed at her and the band.

    she and they were total pros, shrugged it off, she hurled some abuse back and within a couple of songs had the crowd eating out of the palm of her hand.

    RIP Bonnie. A class act.

  • urbsgpw2 hours ago
    My mum had a cassette with some of her songs. We'd have it on for long trips. I loved the long version of Faster than the speed of night. it's basically just "carpe diem" in a different format, but i loved her voice and the slight melancholy and almost call to action that the song brought with it. Also, the video (of the shorter version) is peak 80's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm4CgwRxw3Y
  • petcatan hour ago
    Jim Steinman, Meat Loaf, and now Bonnie Tyler. It truly all has come to an end. I think Celine Dion is the last one still carrying on Steinman's legacy.
  • madcaptenor30 minutes ago
    "Strong Songs" podcast breaking down Total Eclipse of The Heart: https://strongsongspodcast.com/blogs/episodes/s07e06-total-e...
  • codelikeawolfan hour ago
    Ugh, what a bummer. I'll be listening to Holding Out for a Hero on repeat today. Nothing gold can stay.
  • vardumpan hour ago
    Little by little, memories of the 1980s fade.
    • goda9029 minutes ago
      "Every now and then, I get a little bit nervous That the best of all the years have gone by"
    • WillAdamsan hour ago
      Sadly, Jim Steinman passed away half a decade ago:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Steinman

      I still want to see the dream realized on Broadway of a Native-American inspired musical.

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  • al_borlandan hour ago
    The version from the wedding band in Old School will forever be in my mind.

    https://youtu.be/FfUU1wJKXDc

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  • SideburnsOfDoom2 hours ago
    And let us not forget "Holding Out For a Hero"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcASV2sey0

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    • myself248an hour ago
      Featured towards the climax of Short Circuit 2, which was huge in my childhood. What a powerhouse piece of music!
      • nlyan hour ago
        I think of that movie every time I hear the song! That was one badass robot sequence.

        "Suuuuure. Kidnap the humans, DESTROY THE MACHINE."

      • misnomean hour ago
        Yes, I will never fail to associate this music with Short Circuit 2, it is also burned into my childhood memory.
      • biofoxan hour ago
        "Number 5 is alive!"
    • slowin21 minutes ago
      Absolute classic. If anyone is interested, the Footloose soundtrack (which has Holding Out For a Hero on it) is probably one of the greatest soundtracks of all time. The movie sucks but damn, this soundtrack is incredible.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footloose_(1984_soundtrack)

    • limbicsysteman hour ago
      Is it wrong that I prefer the Shrek version?
    • nisiddharth2 hours ago
      Where have all the good men gone and where are all the gods?
      • AndrewOMartinan hour ago
        Is it too much to ask for a Streetwise Hercules?
        • senko26 minutes ago
          'fraid so, the odds have risen too high.

          We might need a white night on a fiery steed. One can dream.

  • deadbabean hour ago
    Too soon, she could have had a lot more life left to live these days, but a bad surgery ended it. Sucks. Try to avoid needing surgery as much as you can.
  • PurpleRamenan hour ago
    RIP legend.

    I'm curious now when this was announced. Yesterday, out of nowhere, TikTok showed me a video about someone praising "Total Eclipse of the Heart", despite not having this bubble in my profile. Kinda spooky to see the news now.

    • derwiki11 minutes ago
      Probably one of those coincidences, like you talked about bouncy houses and now you’re seeing ads for bouncy houses
  • alex11382 hours ago
    Wow. Holy crap.

    Edit: guys, I get that it's not a "substantive comment" but there's no excuse for 3 downvotes. Get a life

  • cramer4nextan hour ago
    How is this hacker news worthy? Never heard of her or the song. Is from a time when people carried boomboxes on their shoulders?
    • nostrademonsan hour ago
      Before that. Her breakthrough album was 1977 and Total Eclipse of the Heart came out in 1982, so it was more the 8-track era. It remained a staple of radio plays (remember those?) through the 80s and 90s though, and was remade by Nikki French into a chart-topping dance version in 1995.

      A lot of HN is folks in their late 30s, 40s, and early 50s (and sometimes even older!), so many folks here would've overlapped with the radio era. A lot of folks here were involved in making YouTube/Instagram/TikTok, not listening to it.

      • masfuertean hour ago
        I'm old enough to remember Walkmans coming out in 1979, which was the start of the end of the boombox era. Approximately no-one was using 8-track at that point.
        • runakoan hour ago
          I'm not quite that old, but didn't people look down on cassettes due to their lower audio quality? Weren't most home systems (hi-fis) still vinyl or 8-track for a while longer?
          • MontgomeryPyan hour ago
            A big driver of cassettes then was the write ability, unlike 8 tracks. You could borrow your friend's new vinyl album, pop in a new cassette tape on your hi-fi, and record a copy of the album to the tape. Of course the Walkman then made listening to your new album fully portable.
    • PurpleRamenan hour ago
      Death notices of famous artists are regularly on HN. If people upvote it, it should be worthy.
      • krappan hour ago
        That's not how it works. If upvotes alone mattered, HN would quickly degenerate into Reddit. The bar is whether "good hackers" would find this interesting.

        Death notices of famous artists are the definition of off-topic: "most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic." If normies care about it, good hackers by definition probably don't.

        I flag this and every such thread I come across. If Hacker News is going to be consistent in its espoused principles, this is non-technical content and thus not welcome. If that standard applies to far more substantive stories regardless of the quality of conversation they produce, it must apply here as well.

        • PurpleRamen36 minutes ago
          > If upvotes alone mattered

          I did not say upvotes alone matter, but they should be the final say after all other mechanisms.

          > The bar is whether "good hackers" would find this interesting.

          If this were true, the majority of frontpage-entries would have to be removed.

          > "most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities,[..]If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."

          I guess the notable point here is "most" and "probably". The exception seems to be always news which are so important or dramatic that they are still not removed, and leaving the final decision to the upvotes. Which is why there are also regularly political and sometime seven sports entries (once or twice a year).

          Despite being called hacker news, reality is not binary and rules should not be handled like that.

        • toomuchtodo2 minutes ago
          https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

          On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

          https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48614633

          > Anything that gratifies intellectual curiosity is on topic for HN! - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html That doesn't mean it has to gratify your curiosity or mine - no single article can do that for everyone. But it's clear that that's what makes the article on topic.

          > One other aspect: the best HN submissions are the ones that are most uncorrelated with anything else that's gotten attention recently - or, as I used to put it, can't be predicted from any existing sequence*. This one has that property for sure!

        • xnorswap44 minutes ago
          I do think HN should have an obit: category and filter them out the main page.

          It's one thing to have obits for people who wouldn't be covered by regular news, but "75 year old celebrity dies" is not any kind of new phenomenon.

          It generates a decent amount of upvotes and discussion based on name recognition and nostalgia, but every thread is essentially the same, "Oh, that's sad, I liked their work, <personal anecdote of how they were touched by it>.".

          • budsniffer9522 minutes ago
            Nobody forced you to click on the article or jump into the comment section, did they?
        • budsniffer9524 minutes ago
          >The bar is whether "good hackers" would find this interesting.

          Who put you in charge of what other people find interesting?

          Get over yourself, loser.

    • sverhagenan hour ago
      Maybe it's not.

      Guidelines:

      > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, (...) If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

    • swader999an hour ago
      Every now and then an article like this is fine.
    • awnird31 minutes ago
      The core audience here is elderly American racists, so white people from the 80s dying makes the front page all the time.
    • teklaan hour ago
      Very famous singer, multiple very famous songs, 40 yo song topped the carts during the 2024 Eclipse, was pretty much the theme song for a very small indie movie called Shrek 2.
      • asimovDev29 minutes ago
        I think Shrek would be pro open source software and hardware if he knew what it was, so this makes it HN worthy