62 pointsby weird_trousersan hour ago18 comments
  • smokel18 minutes ago
    There are very few sites such as Hacker News around. Looking for one that is similar in quality, but with a slightly different focus is going to be disappointing.

    Perhaps it helps to consider why you'd exactly want this? You may be better off not visiting any such site, and instead focus on real human-in-the-loop activities with a group of local hackers.

    • CoastalCoder11 minutes ago
      I don't do web stuff, but I wonder if one could easily create a browser extension that hides AI-centric submissions?
  • psvv31 minutes ago
    You could try a browser extension that just filters all terms like LLM, AI, agent, agentic and removes those posts.

    Or better yet, call back to a certain classic and replace those words with "butt" and keep them in.

    Then your front page will simply be filled with things like:

    "Show HN: Look what I did with my butt."

    "This new butt harness will revolutionize butt coding."

    • KenographerPrim29 minutes ago
      I'm not into any of those butt stuff, but I'll definitely enjoy that butt idea. Wait, what were we talking about?
    • weird_trousers30 minutes ago
      www.nobuttnews.net, reserved :)
  • tyingq9 minutes ago
    Might come off like a flippant joke, but it might give you what you're after.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210201005447/https://news.ycom...

  • summarybot6 minutes ago
    You could always... vibecode your own :)
  • ben30an hour ago
  • not_your_vasean hour ago
    Maybe there could be an AI-generated HN mirror: the AI would monitor HN continuously, and filter out the AI related news. Fight fire with fire.
    • cartucho121 minutes ago
      Sorry for the shameless plug, but I just did something similar for displaying only substacks: https://hnsubstacks.com/. I'm pretty sure something like this can be adapted to filtering out AI news, repo here: https://github.com/ariroffe/hnsubstacks/
    • coldpie43 minutes ago
      I thought about writing a Firefox extension that would just auto-click the Hide button for any story containing a keyword from a configurable list. Haven't gotten around to it.
    • dullcrispan hour ago
      Ooh but then would the AI filter out discussion of itself?
  • willmeyersan hour ago
    • rdmuser19 minutes ago
      I like a lot of things about bubbles but it seems to surface a lot of negative posts that are mainly just rants. A good chunk of articles in the daily/weekly briefings kind of feel like an indie blogging spin on the negative posts/articles you'd see a lot on microblogging sites.

      It regularly surfaces some good stuff so it's working but it's also kind of depressing in ways that made me leave microblogging sites. There regularly is a lot of anti ai rants, USpol rants, the web is dead, defeatist/nihilistic posts etc in the weekly/daily digests. The entire culture section are these types of posts currently.

      Makes me wonder if the use of microblogging accounts to log in is partially biasing the userbase towards that kind of writing? I don't have a solution for this though and limiting to fediverse accounts probably has some upsides too.

      Ultimately bubbles still gets a big thumbs up from me but I'd love to see these kinds of posts deprioritized a bit. Outside maybe a few deeper more constructive ones that link out well I don't think they represent the best of indie blogging. Anyways if you made it this deep into my ramble I hope you have a nice week.

    • theamk44 minutes ago
      current front page: out of 6 posts viisble, 3 are about AI
    • weird_trousers36 minutes ago
      Hum, indeed! Thanks!
  • runjake11 minutes ago
    This doesn't really answer your questions, especially as AI is permeating the field, but:

    https://engineeringblogs.xyz/

    https://lobste.rs/

  • inigyou12 minutes ago
    maybe chaos.social mastodon server? You can follow it through relay.fedi.buzx if you can't actually join it.
  • miloignis11 minutes ago
    Lobste.rs is very much still active, more than ever I think. They have a `vibecoding` tag that you can remove from your page, if you'd like.
  • robotswantdata36 minutes ago
    comp.lang.c
  • PaulHoule44 minutes ago
    I think the interesting thing is that if you look at /new, actually the community and moderation system is already holding back a fantastic volume of AI slop and “slop about AI”. It would be fair to say “HN has too much stuff about AI” and “the HN community is hostile/skeptical of AI”, in fact you hear both in the comments all the time.
    • weird_trousers31 minutes ago
      Thankfully we (as humans) don't have the same brain and the same interests :)

      Some people are excited about all that stuff, and I can understand. But, personally, I am just getting bored of having an anthropic news per day, two from openai, and another one that claims "eeeh, developers are dead!".

      Actually, Hackernews feels more anxious for me now, that's why I wanted to take a look elsewhere...

      I remember the time when I did read "Ray-Tracing in One week-end", or discover some new cool websites and blogs like The Old New Thing, some interesting discussions about Android hacking and vulnerabilities, or hacking old idTech stuff from Fabien Sanglard.

      I really miss that time when I was reading and learning at the same time.

      Now, most of the articles published here do not have any fresh news to provide, and I don't learn anything. Except people think I will be obsolete in a few months. (Nice. /s)

  • ChrisArchitect15 minutes ago
    Related (with some suggestions within):

    We need tech news sources which exclude AI

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48713041

    Hacker News but for independent blogs

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48567155

  • dmitrygr41 minutes ago
    Just wait a year. It will die down just like crypto and NFTs did. Hype goes in cycles.
    • EA-316731 minutes ago
      I agree with the hype argument, but the time-frame seems optimistic. We had to endure many years of crypto hype (nice way of saying lies and delusion really), and even now you have the shattered remnants pretending that everyone swoons they talk about "replacing fiat".

      There will also be a next hype cycle, and they seem to be coming faster and faster, with similar people behind them. "Oh look, NVIDIA found a new way to turn the US economy into a paperclip factory, I can't wait to see what the brain trust thinks about this. Oh they dream of getting money as a result so they're all-in for the next half-decade... fabulous."

  • OnionBlender41 minutes ago
    https://hcker.news has an optional AI filter. I don't know how accurate it is.
    • weird_trousers38 minutes ago
      Hm. The first link is about GPT-Live, from openai... I don't think it is accurate haha.

      But thanks for the link, I did not know about it :)

  • KenographerPriman hour ago
    Good luck with that. If something is easily accessible, it will be accessed by easy people, and if it can flood a platform, it will. Easy people don't care. Easy people will never care.
    • PaulHoule43 minutes ago
      The answer to that is make it too hard for easy people.
      • KenographerPrim34 minutes ago
        You'd have to make LLM access harder, or make all platform harder to access, or both. And both will also penalize the not easy people. Like it always does.
        • PaulHoule17 minutes ago
          'pends. You gotta be antimimetic without saying you are antimimetic.

          One answer is to move on from the party when it isn't fun anymore and start a new party. Like the way you are at the bar at last call and get an invitation to a party where they're drinking at someone's house.

          More than one statue of limitations ago I was in an activist group that helped take down a public corporation (they deny our responsibility) and it was not hypothetical, we were being infiltrated by the FBI, and pretty regularly we made a new mailing list with names that we trusted and moved our planning there.

  • sublinear20 minutes ago
    You might want to refine your question. The real problem is the author not having something interesting to say in their own voice. The lack of perspective and insight to share is disrespectful to the reader.

    With this broader definition, you'll find there's a ton of other slop we've long since needed to clean up. It's one thing to at least share something mildly interesting, but there's still a lot of points farming and ragebait that has brought down the enjoyability of reading HN.

  • throwaway_7678an hour ago
    Try https://lobste.rs/, not completely without ai news but much better.
    • mixmastamyk40 minutes ago
      I hoped so but there's a well-used "vibecoding" tag there and an admonishing/narrow focus that excludes many other interesting topics. A site needs some of that but they are strict to the point the place is kinda barren.

      e.g. I recently submitted a page about new FOSS-oriented hardware and it was rejected as "business news - offtopic." Well, no wonder this place is a ghost town.

    • inigyou9 minutes ago
      How do you get invited?
    • Cyberdog36 minutes ago
      I like Lobsters' design and would love to switch over, but it's still invite-only… I guess it works for them but it feels elitist to an anti-social nerd like me.
      • jfim22 minutes ago
        It's also kind of hard to know if you already know someone who could give you an invite, since I don't really know the online handles of people I know in meatspace. I've resigned myself to maybe someday getting something posted that gets picked up there and asking for an invite at that time.

        The RSS feeds though are pretty neat, it's what I use to fetch articles for archiving so that I can get a curated set of things to read on the go.

      • uproarchat32 minutes ago
        I'll send you an invite, send me an email to the address in my bio.