AI Zillionaires Are Starting to Get Scared as the Public Turns Against Them(futurism.com)
30 pointsby pseudolus5 hours ago2 comments
  • jqpabc1234 hours ago
    From a societal perspective, AI is a means to transfer wealth from employees to AI vendors.

    Only 2 small problems:

    1) Employees are slowly catching on to the scheme.

    2) AI doesn't buy the products that AI produces.

    Basically, AI is capitalism gone wild. The obvious antidote is socialism --- the forced sharing of the wealth that AI is intended to accumulate and concentrate.

    • cyanydeez3 hours ago
      3) AI produces black swan events every n runs and eats up a significant portion of the gaina.
      • ahartmetzan hour ago
        I wouldn't call them black swan events. LLM oopsies are a couple orders of magnitude more likely than black swan events.
      • jqpabc1233 hours ago
        Reliability and competence (or the lack thereof) is a real issue but separate from the societal impact.
        • cyanydeez2 hours ago
          i dont think those thing are separate because people are using it to make critical decisions.
    • general14652 hours ago
      > 2) AI doesn't buy the products that AI produces.

      Yes, this is a point I am trying to get across so many times and people can't comprehend that if everyone automates employees away, then your customers will disappear because they won't have money to buy stuff, because they don't have wage, because they were automated out of their job. Now nobody can buy your goods or services, you are going bankrupt as well.

      The AI in Sam Altman's vision is completely short-circuiting every aspect of capitalist economy.

      • watwut2 hours ago
        I think that they don't care. They wont go bankrupt. They will keep what they have, which is a lot already. A stagnant world with few rich who can do whatever and many poor does not bother them, it is the goal. They already got theirs.
        • jqpabc1232 hours ago
          They already got theirs.

          Yes, but the system they're building is unsustainable. What they've got can be taken away. It's been done before.

          • bluefirebrand2 hours ago
            They don't believe it can be

            They think they can hide far enough away, or hire enough muscle or eventually build autonomous drone defenses that don't rely on other people, to keep themselves safe

            They might even be right

            • jqpabc123an hour ago
              They don't believe it can be

              They they are truly naive.

              Living in isolation is not really practical and not much fun even if it was.

  • cyanydeez3 hours ago
    thats what, like 5 people? Instead of doing what capitalists and fascists do, should we just like humanize them? Point out there's like 5 people who are amassing so much power (eg, if a bank loans you a few billions, that's the banks problem) that they're scared?
    • bluefirebrand2 hours ago
      I don't really have that much sympathy for the richest people around

      "Oh no I could just take a tiny fraction my money and enjoy a retirement wealthier than any human ever has, but instead I have to keep buying businesses to run into the ground and politicians to change society so I can continue to amass all the wealth"

      Frankly the problem is that these people are never satisfied. Elon Musk is a fucking trillionaire and he is still out there fucking around in politics as if he needs to keep making more money? Why?

      • cyanydeezan hour ago
        you dont need sympathy, but empathy and then realize if we eat the rich, thats like maybe 10 cannabals. thebrest of us will be fine.

        think of it like the difference between congress, supreme court and donald trump.