9 pointsby macleginn3 hours ago8 comments
  • hackingonempty9 minutes ago
    This is like saying Twitter isn't worth much because every web framework tutorial produces a "Twitter clone."
  • mmarian2 hours ago
    Hard to see it'll help them much. There's so many other aspects to a successful software business vs just ease of build.
    • alistairSH26 minutes ago
      Customer already pay management consultancies for software - certainly BAH does a bunch of that here in DC (some .gov, some private sector).
      • alephnerd18 minutes ago
        > management consultancies for software...

        Management/Strategy Consulting is different from Implementation Consulting (eg. BAH building and operating a .gov site).

        • alistairSH14 minutes ago
          Sure, and Bain, like BAH, has a software consulting practice. Many of the big consultancies do.
          • alephnerd13 minutes ago
            My point is, if you are going to use terminology, use terminology correctly.

            Implementation Consulting is always a separate practice under a seprate set of partners and leadership from Strategy Consulting.

            Also, BAH doesn't really do Management Consulting anymore.

  • su889825 minutes ago
    If only Bain could use their AI skills to fix their website. It's a horrible and convoluted mess!
  • RugnirViking32 minutes ago
    the ease of making a prototype is not at all related to the ease of productising/releasing/bringing to market and that, in turn, is not at all related to the ease of maintenence/maturization/scaling.

    You didn't even want the same kind of guy or team doing each one before ai. Turns out, AI is great at prototyping, ok at productizing and terrible at maintenence and scaling

    • alephnerd16 minutes ago
      The point about prototyping and vibecoding in this manner is to wargame and think about workflows and whether or not they are defensible.

      A product where the secret sauce is basically a distribution play is going to need a different strategy and demand a different valuation compared to a product where the platform itself is successfully monetizing on a workflow.

  • xnx12 minutes ago
    Very good idea. For every company that is valuable because of software + knowledge + service + loyal customers there are a dozen that only exist because of weak competition and inertia.

    Easy to imagine there are a lot of software products that could be cloned and out-competed by taking 15% profit margin instead of 50%.

  • rich_sasha38 minutes ago
    Is the future of software really vibe coded by management consultants..?
    • alistairSH27 minutes ago
      Basic CRUD apps? Sure, why not.

      Anything substantially new will still require an engineer in the loop. Specifically, if a new design pattern, archtecture, etc is required. AI can only build on its training material - it can't yet have original thoughts.

      • rich_sasha21 minutes ago
        I can still think of many reasons why not.
    • bla15e20 minutes ago
      The future of software is the past of software is the future of software - ping pong between in-housed money furnaces and out-sourced predators.

      A quick addendum: The in-housed money furnace can produce material to reinforce and extend the foundations of information technology

    • danesparza25 minutes ago
      Software consulting has been around for a very long time. Decades.

      It has always been overpriced and had huge margins.

      I think what management consultants are really afraid of is being replaced. By AI.

    • dgellow28 minutes ago
      it's not, no, but some groups will try. Paying for corporate software is mostly about delegating responsibility
  • peder25 minutes ago
    I mean, this is just basic smart investing today. Software is now very easily replicable, and you wouldn't want to invest in software that has absolutely no moat.

    At a minimum, this gives Bain more leverage when negotiating with these companies.

    • claytongulick5 minutes ago
      > Software is now very easily replicable

      How?

      Do you mean by AI? I haven't seen any evidence of this.

      It was always possible to get code generated at large volumes for low cost (offshore/outsource market) but we didn't see this upend or replace many (if any) software companies.

      LLM generated code is similar, but arguably more expensive and lower quality.

      We don't see LLM generated product replacement at scale because code generation is a problem, but it's not the only problem. Low quality can kill a product, but high quality doesn't guarantee success.

      There's an entire ecosystem around a successful software offering. An ecosystem that depends on adequately functioning code.

      LLMs may be useful for certain tasks (...maybe... - we've always had good options for repetitive code generation) but I certainly wouldn't describe it as "very easily replicable".

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