54 pointsby stopachka7 hours ago9 comments
  • didibus5 hours ago
    I'm getting a bit tired of these disguised adverts.

    Here's how non robotics engineers used AI to do a short robot integration task faster than other non robotics engineers without AI.

    Where "better" mostly means faster, and who knows what happens on longer horizons, with actual robotics experts, robustness requirements, or tasks where the hard part is control rather than API spelunking.

    • dragonwriter5 hours ago
      > I'm getting a bit tired of these disguised adverts.

      Its not disguised. Corporate blogs exist overtly to promote the company and its work.

      Disguised promotions where notionally independent media publish promotional pieces as news concealing that they were fed to them by party whose products they promote area thing, but this is just the most overt undisguised promotion.

      • rvz4 hours ago
        > Its not disguised. Corporate blogs exist overtly to promote the company and its work.

        It is. That makes the "research" heavily biased. If xAI did the same thing, with Elon Musk screaming about that it is "AGI", you would not believe them at all.

        Given that the work is not independent, such articles of this "research" can easily be manipulated or the results being massaged to promote the company positively.

        But when others outside of the company try out the work or reproduce it, they get different results. So of course we continue to hear unverified research especially in AI when the frontier labs do not release their architecture, weights at all.

        So in this case with labs raised with VC-funded cash, the incentives are clear and I would not straight up believe results from the first party source unless multiple sources outside of the company have verified it.

        • skeledrewan hour ago
          You or some other interested person could go do that experiment and publish the results. It shouldn't be hard to figure out what hardware exactly they were using and get a copy, and the prompt also doesn't have to be exactly what they used, just similar enough in spirit. See just how similar/different the outcome is.
        • dozerly4 hours ago
          You’re writing with the assumption that this is “research” in the first place. This is advertising first, “research” second.
    • skeledrew2 hours ago
      Disguised ad or not, I learned that LLMs have the emergent capability of learning to complete tasks in physical space, without being fine-tuned for it.
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  • bob7786 hours ago
    > Preliminary trials with Claude Mythos Preview showed that it would not provide an apples-to-apples comparison with other models because of how we had set up the experiment and how the model was served.

    What does this mean? My guess is they couldn’t co-locate Mythos close enough to reduce latency?

    (I’m assuming this experiment pre-dates the export controls)

    • georgemcbay5 hours ago
      > My guess is they couldn’t co-locate Mythos close enough to reduce latency?

      I doubt network latency is the reason. Even when connecting from literally across the world network latency is lost in the noise of overall response latency of even fast models.

      The overall response latency of the model very well could have been the difference, though. AFAIK Mythos is structured to do relatively slow "deep thinking".

      • bannable5 hours ago
        Depending on the timeline, it could be that they're not allowed to access Mythos because of something like non-US citizens on the team or the lack of some way for them to meet the constraint DOD has them under.
        • georgemcbay5 hours ago
          I strongly suspect if that was the case they would have just directly mentioned that Mythos couldn't be used because of that reason, it would be less confusing and less suspect messaging than saying it wasn't an "apples-to-apples comparsion".
  • jascha_eng5 hours ago
    This mostly reads as a comparison between Opus 4.7 and 4.1 it would be more interesting if they reran the experiment against a team of humans with 4.7 and see how much the humans still improve the results today.
  • nickosh4 hours ago
    Fast? Sure. Good maintainable code? Doubted. I think they skip the right metrics there. So that's just their AI promo.
    • fassssst40 minutes ago
      Why does the code need to be maintainable by humans?
  • joshu5 hours ago
    stop trying to make fetch happen
  • usernametaken293 hours ago
    > However, once again, we are seeing a pattern whereby first, models are helpful to humans. Then, humans are helpful to models. Finally, models are largely able to do things themselves. We have seen this in cybersecurity and now the same dynamics are starting to take shape at the intersection of AI and the physical world.

    It’s good they are the one seeing those things because otherwise no one else would have. Now if only seeing things would translate into getting any actual economic value out of them… instead of losing billions. But hey, who am I to do a reality check on this shameless piece of hype.

  • InkCanon3 hours ago
    Is that a Unitree?
    • aabhayan hour ago
      Yep looks like a go1
  • Littice5 hours ago
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  • etchalon5 hours ago
    Do you want Terminators? Because this is how you get Terminators.
    • digitaltrees4 hours ago
      It feels like the prevailing view is: if I get $100m before every one loses their job and build the terminator before it un-livings everyone else then I win