191 pointsby sohkamyung8 hours ago34 comments
  • ElijahLynn7 hours ago
    My local library which is part of the Washington county Library system (next to Portland). It's where Hillsboro is, which is where Intel's manufacturing is, also called Silicon Forest, has a Library Of Things!

    I've checked out a KitchenAid stand mixer, synthesizer, guitar, stud finder, drum machine, ukulele, air quality detector, and many more things.

    They also have a sewing machine and a. Vitamix.

    It's amazing! I love being able to check out new things from our library!

    I think there's an effort towards tool checkout as well in the future! There's a tool library in a couple cities east of us as well that I keep hearing about!

    PDX has it going on!!!

    • xattt4 hours ago
      Libraries of Things are a thing now. The items that are most useful are those that lend things that you use from once a year to every couple of years.

      My local library (PEI Library Service) has a telescope, radon detector, a basic (and I mean basic) toolkit, some gardening tools among other things. The collection has a couple of surprises, but mostly underwhelming.

      I did request something more practical, like a bicycle disc brake flushing kit, but this has not happened yet.

      • bombcar2 hours ago
        Auto part stores often will lend both weird and specialized tools, and relatively basic ones, too.

        Usually the way it works is you "buy" the tool and then "return" it.

    • erikschoster5 hours ago
      Our little town in Minnesota has some of these too (https://winona.lib.mn.us/library-of-things/) it's really cool! There's also a new maker space getting set up now which will have a tool library open to the community.
    • tonypapousek7 hours ago
      The Washington County library system is excellent; I love that one card will get you access to the entire area.
      • rfarley045 hours ago
        That's my library system too! I go to tualatin and it has a dedicated room for their makerlab and have classes every day for all kinds of stuff. Whenever I go in its pretty well attended.
  • cuvinny5 hours ago
    My library has something similar. Sewing and embroidering machines, 3D printers and even a CNC machine. Most are free to use as long as you bring the material, the only one that I can remember having a cost is the laser cutter but even then it was under 10 bucks an hour. They have a bunch of other things like being able to check out a pass the the state parks and some museum passes.

    This is the Charleston County library system.

    • EvanAnderson2 hours ago
      The Greene County Ohio Public Library (Xenia, OH) did something like this a few years ago and other libraries in the area (Dayton Metro and Troy-Miami County) started similar spaces, too. They all have a similar array of machines-- CNC, 3D printing, dye sub printing, laser engravers, vinyl cutters, sewing and embroidery, video and photo editing, etc. It's amazing to me that within a five year timespan all of this became available to anybody in the community for the cost of materials.
    • random__duck4 hours ago
      That sounds so cool, are they building an entire fablab in there?
  • mongol9 minutes ago
    I am not very fond of this idea. I think libraries are for books, or possibly media. I can see the utility but I think it distracts from the actual purpose.
  • whycombinetor6 hours ago
    Denver has this... nominally. 3 machines (2 in circulation, one is a "Display"). 4 week checkout period. 103 current holds. 103*4/2/12 ≈ 17 year wait time.
    • dhosek5 hours ago
      That theoretical wait time doesn’t usually end up being so long. Between borrowers returning things early, people on the wait list giving up and most importantly, the library deciding that the current inventory is insufficient, the wait times usually are much less than that (I’ve observed this with books and other materials at my local library and the wait on in-demand times is never as long as the queue would imply).
      • bombcar2 hours ago
        Books yes, DVDs yes.

        But we can check out a Netflix Roku, and the wait time really is what it says on the tin + a bit more; which works out to about once a year, which is about what we need ...

  • akouri5 hours ago
    Libraries around me have just become a homeless shelter. Pretty sad because the buildings themselves are actually quite nice and I'd use them often if it weren't for the high likelihood of being harassed.
    • ctdinjeu95 hours ago
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    • TurdF3rguson5 hours ago
      You mean being asked for spare change makes you avoid that library? Why not just give them your change?
      • llbbdd2 hours ago
        Indistinguishable from a joke
      • hsuduebc23 hours ago
        Sure, that's exactly what you want in library.

        I understand it's tough for them but some of the homeless people are not people you enjoy you want to be around. I don't understand this need to spread this sentiment.

        • TurdF3rguson3 hours ago
          You will encounter homeless people in libraries, because it's one of the few public spaces that won't kick them out. Your reaction to that shouldn't be to hate and avoid libraries though. It should be to appreciate them more.
          • vascoan hour ago
            The guy didn't said he hated it, you did. He just said he avoided it. I would too. The same way I wouldn't want to hang out at a homeless shelter (and why many homeless themselves avoid any places with many other homeless people).
            • TurdF3rguson29 minutes ago
              I would avoid homeless shelters because I have no reason to be there. But I won't avoid libraries because I do have a reason to be there, and I know there's no reason to be scared of interacting with homeless people.

              They're just people and the library is for them too.

      • ghaff5 hours ago
        I don't have any change on me.
        • trick-or-treat4 hours ago
          Just say that then. Or give them a dollar.
        • queenkjuul4 hours ago
          Do what I do: kindly tell them you have no change. Works for me every time
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  • felooboolooomba7 hours ago
    If you went into programming because you like making things, odds are high you'll like sewing too. Speaking from experience.
    • cyberrock5 hours ago
      In my experience it will also make you appreciate aspects of physical production that don't apply to programming. For example, how precisely you need to cut fabric and join/pin/baste fabric together before you sew such that it looks nice. I'm glad I don't need to reckon millimeter precision on a ruler for my job.
    • ranger2076 hours ago
      What kind of stuff do you make sewing? About the only think I've ever wanted to sew was a new pocket on a jacket
      • Cerium5 minutes ago
        Camping gear, hammocks, bags, any small change or repair. Strap breaks on a backpack, fix it. Pocket rips, fix it.
      • analog312 hours ago
        My family has one. I'm not sure we'd get one if we didn't already have it. With that said, I've repaired clothing, backpacks, and a fairly expensive musical instrument case. For the latter repairs, I broke a few needles, and had to work the mechanism by hand, a stitch at a time, because the motor wasn't strong enough, but it got the job done.

        As for making things, curtains. They're not hard because they're rectangular, and mainly just need cutting and hemming, but the result is sizes and materials that would require buying something custom made.

      • galleywest2006 hours ago
        Throw pillows out of old t-shirts.
    • sitzkrieg3 hours ago
      working with your hands and developing physical craftsmanship is unbeatable
  • ggandhian hour ago
    I signed my daughter up for a library card when she was two. She can't read yet.

    I believed you can't teach a child to love libraries. You keep taking them, and let the room do the rest. That room do wonders and it did that to me and I am sure will do that to her too.

  • darkvertexan hour ago
    The main library here in Montreal has a sick makerspace with 3D printers (plastic and resin), wood CNC machines, a digital embroidery machine, button maker, shirt press, hole driller, laser cutter, vacuform and vinyl cutter: https://square.banq.qc.ca/fablab

    It's a pretty dope library. They also let you borrow movies, videogames for all consoles and even board games, vinyl records and a few music instruments.

  • LPisGood5 hours ago
    My very small town growing up had sewing machines and they eventually even got a 3D printer. In high school I sewed a heart shaped pillow for a valentines day present; the library provided a bin of free fabric/stuffing as well as the machine. Libraries are awesome.
  • yakkomajuri6 hours ago
    Finnish libraries are fantastic. Many had free-to-use 3D printers as far back as 2012!

    Libraries are a place of possibilities and fun, and it makes people want to be there. You can imagine the long-term positive impact this has.

  • Plasmoid7 hours ago
    My local library has been running a tool lender library for quite a while. It's quite popular as it rents out both manual and electric tools. This is great when you need an extension ladder but don't want to own an extension ladder.
  • Avicebron7 hours ago
    One of the libraries near me has kayaks for loan as well as picking up the slack when all of the funding for after school programs was slashed. The value of third spaces is slowly creeping back into the public mindspace, but not enough.
  • delichon7 hours ago
    I'd argue that sewing machines are among the most complex, high skill items found in a typical home, above the laptop and car. I find it very hard to keep mine operational. I struggle with it a lot more than I sew with it. They require fine motor skills and scads of parts and supplies. If you plan to rent them, plan for a repair staff or frequent replacements.

    Compared to a book, a sewing machine is a space ship, and you should see what people can do to a book. To be sustainable it needs a replacement value deposit, which isn't easy for someone who can't afford an entry level model.

    • AngryData4 hours ago
      Sewing machines are complex, but ive had experiences both ways with them. One model I had endless troubles with both getting to run and keep running well, but then ive had others that are seemingly bulletproof. At my family's cabin my great-grandmother had a foot powered one that to this day works flawlessly and has never seen any maintenance or repairs ive ever seen and she use to make tons of quilts on it. I don't use it much these days but I do squirt a bit of oil on it every few years and make sure it is still working.
    • criddell7 hours ago
      I bought a sewing machine a five years ago and I haven’t had to do any maintenance or repairs to it. What kinds of things are breaking on your machine?
      • delichon7 hours ago
        I only use it a couple of times per year, and simply threading it is a genuine challenge for me. So is keeping a stich running. People who sew more or have good fine motor skill may just not remember the noob experience. I expect a lot of new renters to have a learning curve to climb.
        • yw34106 hours ago
          In the United Kingdom, we learn (maybe past tense, I've no idea if the curriculum has changed) how to use a sewing machine at secondary school.
          • deanc2 hours ago
            I’m almost 40 and educated in the UK. I don’t think sewing has been taught in UK schools for quite many generations now - although no idea what the state of affairs is today.
        • jessewmc7 hours ago
          it helps to have a good sewing machine - the difference between a poor quality one and e.g. a nice bernina is dramatic. even an old one thats been well maintained will give you many years of reliable use with minimal maintenance, and they're very affordable used
          • danielheath6 hours ago
            > even an old one

            My overlocker was made in West Germany (when that was a country), and is still going strong.

            Threading was a bit tricky the first few times, but the manual is really exceptionally well written.

      • 2muchcoffeeman5 hours ago
        I bought mine 10 years ago, maybe longer. Never had to do anything. Super useful when we need it.
    • felooboolooomba7 hours ago
      Opposite experience. I studied mine extensively when I got it. I rarely have problems. But it's definitely a mechanical wonder.
    • markdown5 hours ago
      Get yourself an old Singer. They're the Toyota of sewing machines.
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    • teaearlgraycold7 hours ago
      You have confused high maintenance with complex. Not to belittle sewing machines, which are very cool and not exactly simple.
    • calvinmorrison7 hours ago
      Yes and no. I can stitch. I regularly do adjust clothes. I am a bad amateur. It's crazy what my neighbor does (She has a industrial sewing machine) and does piece finish work. It's a real skill.

      However, I highly recommend everyone get and learn how to perform basic stitches because hand stitching is a lot hard to get a good quality stitch out of, especially for doing things like repairs in areas that wear.

  • JackLau5 hours ago
    Iowa has this too, the Des Moines Public Library has a Library of Things with over 50 items.
  • Telaneo6 hours ago
    I really wish my local libraries would offer things like this. I do own a sewing machine, and even if I didn't, I could probably call on a friend if I did need one, but there are several other categories of things this doesn't apply as much too: gardening tools, ladders, skis, a wheelbarrow. If I could just pop in a library and come back when I'm done, that'd be really convenient.

    I can borrow CDs, DVDs, records, sheet music, games, but those were probably a pretty logical continuation of lending out books, so the jump to random items is probably one that needs justification to the people higher up the chain. Hopefully this will serve as a good example.

    • queenkjuul5 hours ago
      There are some tool libraries where i live specifically for big or expensive stuff like ladders, power saws, etc; stuff most people need once every few years but don't want to keep in their apartment
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  • erelong7 hours ago
    there's things like "tool libraries" and it might be good to see more lending beyond books;

    some of the libraries I've seen have morphed more into like makerspaces and/or meeting spaces rather than just places to get books

    • queenkjuul5 hours ago
      Tool libraries rock, i think this model could work really well for lots of things especially in big cities.

      I am blessed with a huge apartment but even i have to make decisions about what tools to keep around given the space. Yeah i could buy something from harbor freight and use it once and donate to the thrift store, but how much better if my neighbors and i could just share a big collection of stuff we all might need once every year or two

  • jameszol5 hours ago
    I’m trying to privately build a public library in a rural Idaho community. Borrowing sewing machines has been a popular request, as soon as we have space for them. It’s exciting to see that it’s a worldwide desire and not just a rural trend. Very cool to read about how Finland is doubling down on investing in libraries and skill building tools like sewing machines!
    • WaitWaitWha3 hours ago
      How are you going about this? Asking because I thought about doing something similar (e.g., Makerspaces, hackerspaces, Fab Labs).
      • jameszol2 hours ago
        Luckily a few others here in Idaho have done it by way of a Friends of the Library official non-profit 501(c)(3), so I have a model to follow that works in our region and for our rural conservative conditions. The standard non-profit benefits apply: we apply for a lot of grants, we set up endowments, accept land or stock as gifts, take on capital projects like building a library. The public library can then lease from us (probably for $0) or if we put a large enough endowment fund together we would very much consider taking it all private vs just a purpose built building for the library.
  • YeahThisIsMe3 hours ago
    Noo, don't tell the major VC website about libraries.
  • Telemakhos6 hours ago
    Why do the pictures with this article feel so weird? Like, the first one is of a guy in Finland reading a book with an English title while standing in front of a shelf full of books with English titles.
    • wzdd6 hours ago
      Oodi is at least equally community / maker space and library, very distinctively and attractively designed, quite new, and in the middle of Helsinki, so there are a lot of non Finnish speakers visiting so there is a large English section.
    • bcraven6 hours ago
    • antupis2 hours ago
      There is lots of English/Swedish books in average Finnish library.
    • f4k3Ng4y6 hours ago
      Manufactured reality
  • karunamurti4 hours ago
    In Japan there's a karaoke chain that rents sewing machine.
  • bobbytheblkbear7 hours ago
    This only works in a high-trust society.
    • UtopiaPunk6 hours ago
      I think society only works in a high trust society. Well, maybe something exists functionally in low trust society, but it sounds miserable.
  • fnord772 hours ago
    South SF library has sewing machines

    SFPL used to have tools until it got ruined.

  • Havoc5 hours ago
    > 55% of Finns visit libraries at least once a month.

    Wait what? That seems insanely high even for a progressive society.

    As a reference point UK is at 30% on YEARLY STATS NOT MONTHLY

    >In England, 30% of adults aged 16 and over used a public library service at least once in the previous 12 months.

    • deanc2 hours ago
      I live in Finland and even I am sceptical of this figure. Maybe that’s because I go once a year.

      I will say it’s very very common for folks to use the library for its primary purpose of renting books - which of course requires a visit twice in a month - once to collect and once to return.

      • fragmedean hour ago
        On the return trip, you collect another set of books, which you then also have to return in two weeks.
      • fragmedean hour ago
        On the return trip, you collect another set of books, making it a habit.
    • timonoko33 minutes ago
      The report is deliberately misleading by the red-green government. If you read between the lines it is a poll among the library visitors.
  • timonoko2 hours ago
    > 1 point by timonoko 67 days ago : A Tour of Oodi

    These are just echoes of Soviet Era "Cultural Palaces" aka "Folkets Hus" in Socialists-run Sweden. For the "Culture" no one wants to pay their own money for.

    I visited it only once, using the Toilet. Kinda Scary. It was gender-free, consisting of large locked cubicles, which were mostly occupied as kiosks for drugs and sexual services. Romanian Romas also had permanent presence there. But sadly this gender-free dream was destroyed by the order of the Nazi Polizei.

  • iberator7 hours ago
    Sewing machines are great for computer people: you can train your fashion sense and motor skills(!) - most 'nerds' lack it :)

    Also it's an incredible women magnet :)

    • nntwozz6 hours ago
      Hey baby, wanna see my sewing machine? I can add a gusset anywhere you want.
      • kaikai6 hours ago
        Forget about gussets, I can offer pockets
        • tim-tday3 hours ago
          Ha. Give a lady something she really wants and you’re in.
  • panchtatvam2 hours ago
    That's one way to convert a library from home of books to home of everything non-bookish. No way the society is growing dumber day by day.
  • white_tiger2 hours ago
    cool
  • queenkjuul5 hours ago
    I always wanted to start a musical instrument library. I loved working in a music store, helping people pick out the right instruments for what they're trying to accomplish, but always constrained by their budget. We had a per-semester rental program for school band students, where we'd take a deposit and rental fees but we'd handle the maintenance and families could save a ton versus buying. Something similar where like, you want to loan out a particular amp or pedal or synth or cymbal or something to go record a record for a week, the library would be there to help you access gear you couldn't normally afford, and I'd be there to keep everything working and help you find the right tool for the job.

    Maybe someday.

  • trueno3 hours ago
    i love the one HN thread title a day that hits whatever this mark is. i love this lmao
  • redwood6 hours ago
    Berkeley had a very cool tool lending library
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  • p1dda5 hours ago
    Socialist wet dream. In reality someone has to pay for all these adults wasting time instead of working for a living.
    • tim-tday3 hours ago
      I know this is supposed to be sarcastic, but This is actually a great framing for why we should love our libraries.

      They’re decidedly NOT productive to business. They’re yours as a person. They’re your time, your leisure, your enrichment.

      I suppose they’re productive to business in the long run because the create more thoughtful and effective people so maybe they’re not all good.

      Still, a good reason to lean into them.

    • queenkjuulan hour ago
      Hilarious. Tool libraries exist and are quite successful here in capitalist US of A (and, apparently, in capitalist Finland. You didn't think they were communists or something, did you?)
  • stein19462 hours ago
    I am not sure I like the direction the modern libraries are taking.

    Libraries should be places where people pickup books and read them, that's it.

    They should not be community centers, DYI hobby centers, convention/exhibition places.

    I feel they have been co-opted by people who have no interest in knowledge acquisition.

    • raegis2 hours ago
      Libraries have been renting non-books for a long time. Different communities have different needs. It's not a big deal. Some libraries in the Los Angeles area lend sewing machines, bike tools, and other useful stuff. The main branch library has 3d printers and other tech stuff ordinary folks can't afford. And of course, they have various workshops on numerous topics for adults and children.

      Given all the stuff I've taken advantage of, if the libraries here were only for borrowing books, they would seem kind of useless. And this is from someone who has the max 30 books checked out right now.

    • totetsu2 hours ago
      It’s easier to take time to pick up a book and learn something if your life is going smoothly in other areas. If all your clothes need mending it can make a barrier of embarrassment to go to a public place like a library. With the hollowing out of the middle class, people live in smaller housing and move more, lose their inter generational resources. If there’s a trusted social institution that is knowen for borrow and lending, and people have a need to borrow tools for their everyday life it seems not such a deviation from the purpose of libraries
    • badlibrarian2 hours ago
      Andrew Carnegie funded 2,500+ public libraries and many were built with lecture halls, auditoriums, and meeting rooms on purpose. The public library was a civic institution from day one.
    • eks3912 hours ago
      Libraries might not be a business but they still have to compete for funding. If those funding them think they are no longer relevant, the alternative is to slowly lose funding and die. People don't care about books anymore, so if the library must dangle an enticement to keep people engaged enough to retain the instilled indeed that knowledge should be freely available instead of siloed (and the other benefits of libraries), so be it.

      Adapt or die is the way of life.

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