Iran says it's closing Strait of Hormuz, accusing Israel, US of violating truce(www.cnn.com)
48 pointsby MilnerRoute2 hours ago8 comments
  • florenan hour ago
    Iran has figured out it can make the US president look like an idiot over and over at relatively low cost to themselves, since they're already so thoroughly excluded from the rest of the world.
    • pvaldes28 minutes ago
      Iran or Israel?
    • kelseyfrog39 minutes ago
      Iran is Lucy, Trump is Charlie Brown, and the Straight of Hormuz is the football
      • Jamesbeam14 minutes ago
        most beautiful analogy I read today.
    • watwutan hour ago
      I think it is about making US pressure Israel and eventually rupturing that relationship.

      Meanwhile, Israel is trying to sabotage the peace process and dont care about that relationship.

      • cosmicgadget7 minutes ago
        Of all the stupidity of this saga, believing Israel would simply go along with an agreement requiring them to not attack Lebanon is the stupidest.
    • mindslightan hour ago
      The real question is why does this make Grump look like an idiot any more than the numerous other idiotic things he's already done.
      • conceptionan hour ago
        Unlike most times this affects people’s pocketbooks- the only real political motivation.
        • ravoori39 minutes ago
          Approval still rides at 37%, which is pretty decent given the amount of turmoil that has been unleashed
          • cosmicgadget5 minutes ago
            Can this abundant turmoil be refined into gasoline? Asking for a friend.
          • sidewndr469 minutes ago
            He's not really up for re-election, so I'm not sure what approval numbers have to do with it
          • whateveracct22 minutes ago
            Trump is already hitting disapproval levels seen during the end of W's second term. He actually is bleeding support and politically damaged due to all this.

            It gets worse when you break it down into key demographics. In the same way W's presidency influenced millennials away from the GOP, Trump is doing the same for young voters today too.

            Non-whites and Gen Z were plus for him in 2024. He has absolutely cratered his support in those two demos.

            We will see how the midterms go :)

          • kelseyfrog36 minutes ago
            That tracks. My rule of thumb is that political topics have a 33% group that will never budge and the remaining 4-5% accounts for the lizard man constant[1].

            1. https://www.spencergreenberg.com/2024/07/the-lizardmans-cons...

      • Danoxan hour ago
        It’s exhausting every day every week every month it’s a new low, just when you thought it couldn’t get any lower or dumber…
      • pvaldes13 minutes ago
        > why does this make Grump look like an idiot any more

        Because this time his error is at a new level. Many countries had seen their strategic reserves of gasoline seriously reduced and about to disappear, and the fertilizers (that they need to feed their population in the next year) never arrived on time. His so called "little excursion" could kill much more people than any other of his former actions. For no reason or benefit.

        And Israel isn't helping at all. They backstabbed Biden when he needed their help most in the elections, and are backstabbing Trump when he is desperate for the midterms. Everybody can see that Bibi plays Trump like a violin.

  • cosmicgadget14 minutes ago
    So Iran can shield Hezbollah and other allies/proxies via its stranglehold on the strait. This is quite the shift.
  • RevEng9 minutes ago
    Trump agreed to the MoU saying it's allies would stop attacks, including in Lebanon. Israel continues to bomb it. It's up to Trump to put pressure on Israel to stop in order to make good on his deal. It's no surprise this is instantly falling apart - Trump promised something he couldn't deliver. We can only hope that he does eventually put enough pressure on Israel to stop.
  • ndiddyan hour ago
    Iran’s perspective seems to be that their sovereignty will continue to be threatened by Israel if the US doesn’t start using its considerable amount of leverage over Israel to force them to stand down. I’m not sure how likely this would be, but Trump said that the US would start facing drastic fuel shortages and enter a recession in the next few weeks if he didn’t sign off on the MOU (which seems like a dumb thing to say while negotiations are ongoing but whatever), so it seems like Iran has a lot of power here. Ultimately, I think Trump and Netanyahu’s decision to start this war may result in the largest shift in the Middle Eastern power balance since the post-World War II period.
  • iAMkenoughan hour ago
    Guess $300 Billion from U.S. taxpayers wasn’t enough. #TheArtOfTheDeal
    • Cpollan hour ago
      To be fair, none of that has been paid out yet.
      • cosmicgadget13 minutes ago
        Didn't some of the gulf states provide reconstruction payments already?
  • sghiassyan hour ago
    Art of the Deal sigh
  • indoorfishan hour ago
    cut ties with israel at this point?
    • mooglyan hour ago
      Aragchi was likely correct in saying the Israeli death cult is a threat to all of humanity at this point. This is untenable.
  • watwutan hour ago
    It is closed! Open! Closed! Open! Closed!

    We are negotiating! We dont! We do! We dont! We on the plane! We are not!

    • CSSer21 minutes ago
      Everything is going to plan! Protect the precious bodily fluids.