As soon as I read that I literally scoffed. Doublethink at its finest. Doubleplusungood.

Reminds me of a time when Tailscale cofounder went on a rant about how big bad AWS charges too much for bandwidth, and his solution was to send that money to Tailscale instead

I think the policy universally makes sense, who would want to give a tool like this to bad actors? But it does leave a big section of the market underserved. Particularly when Mythos was made accessible to very large orgs and then Fable was pulled on export grounds.

I actually wonder how valuable this verbiage is

To me it looks like copycat marketing more than a strongly held stance

Artificial scarcity, membership club criteria to make members feel special

Perhaps there is an organization that awards this “responsibility” behavior, the EU comes to mind but not lucrative enough

As far as engagement farming goes, it got us to engage and boost its reach, for something we might otherwise ignore with more benign language

Once I get the answers I will execute

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Agreed, and that's basically our premise. If a 5 person team can post-train an open model to do this, so can the people you don't want doing it, model-level refusals on open weights are a speed bump. Which is the argument for defenders having it too, not against.

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The tool is live, you can test it.

At my job we have tooling that scans our code repos with Opus. Yes it can find stuff however it doesn’t find everything.

I am able to get Opus and Sonnet to function as a red team agent. We don’t have some crazy special sauce, just a lot of trial and error. Basically add enough context proving we own the code and running services that it will run attempts to compromise our services.

It found tons of stuff that was not found with just scanning the code. It found serious security issues that had been in productions for years that humans never found. They weren’t things that were accessible externally but serious enough that we are thrilled to have these tools.

I can say that Fable did refuse to function with our harness. I am worried that soon you have to be in the special club to do this stuff with the SOTA models. A small company like ours doesn’t get accepted to their programs that remove guardrails. Even though our CEO has found and disclosed vulnerabilities to multiple companies and holds a patent around federated authentication.

They are only protecting corporate interests in insecure code bases by doing this. If everyone could have Mythos in their pockets, all the poorly written bottom dollar rush developed software would be rightfully shown to be the trash it always was. It would spur engineering liability legislation for commercial software and operations: speed-release poor insecure code --> corporate bankruptcy and maybe even prison for the software PE who signed off on it. Software, infrastructure, and hardware security won't improve massively until the "bad actors" start running rampant on the steaming pile!

You need both, scanning for your own code, pen testing to actually prove vulnerabilities, otherwise it can be very noisy and one of the things that most tools currently suffer from is they give you too many false positives. For the moment. The pen testing we gated it for now until we resolve the debate of safety.