7 pointsby ggm9 hours ago7 comments
  • chadash3 hours ago
    > don't have liquid cash to pile up on their yacht

    I think a reasonable metric would be "you have 2 years to sell your assets and convert to cash (or something super liquid like treasuries)". This accounts for people who hold things like farm land or real estate that can't just be liquidated tomorrow. By this Metric, the values for many of the billionaires out there are real. Bill Gates, for example, hardly owns a significant stake in Microsoft anymore, but he does have lots of illiquid assets like farmland and real estate. Brin/Page/Bezos still have significant stakes in their companies, but the companies stand on their own at this point and I doubt that shares would go down a ton if any of them liquidated over the course of a year. Zuckerberg probably can't sell his meta shares without a reasonable decrease in value, so there'd be some haircut, but it's still an incredibly valuable company without him.

    But Musk is at a different level. I can't imagine him selling his stakes in his companies without the stocks plummeting more than 50%.

  • Gud3 hours ago
    No, what Elon can do(and is indeed doing) is to take out loans at a fantastic rate.

    No need to sell anything.

  • fsuts7 hours ago
    But it’s the same for all non equity assets. As no one has everything in cash.

    A private company owner needs to sell his company

    A high net worth investor in a fund will have signed up to maximum redemptions and may be locks out during a crisis

    Most assets have varying liquidity and you can only surely judge net worth as its present book value

  • aniokono8 hours ago
    Someone in Nigeria once said it's paper money. But wait, so he goes and buys other companies and they all have the same paper money?

    Maybe such invisible "paper money" isn't such a bad thing if he can go shopping with it.

  • throwaw123 hours ago
    what if he buys 20 $50B companies with that leverage? total revenue of those companies combined may exceed $1T. Does it mean now he has $2T?
  • chistev9 hours ago
    We don't care about these semantics. He's a trillionaire.
    • maxrf8 hours ago
      I do; because it matters in the 'real world' ;-}
      • ferrouswheel7 hours ago
        It doesn't matter at all.

        Almost no one with real wealth has liquid cash because liquid cash depreciates.

  • farrukh23buttt6 hours ago
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