20 pointsby koolba6 hours ago5 comments
  • mindslight4 hours ago
    Excellent. I've been having a hard time knowing what day of the week it is lately, and this will remind me it is a Monday.
  • watwut2 hours ago
    The kind of where there is no shooting going on? Or rather the usual kind where everybody shoots everybody and claims to be retaliating?
  • noah344 hours ago
    i've lost track of which agreement we are on
  • gib444an hour ago
    4 hours since posting. Any news of this being breached yet?

    I assume it was just another market manipulation play?

    And if it does hold, what is his next move to cause even more massive price shocks? They won't let prices revert to where they were - it's just normal now to have some shock event to raise prices

  • lyu072824 hours ago
    The key part to understand why this means nothing:

    > Iran’s Supreme National Security Council said in a statement that the country had finalized a memorandum of understanding with the United States

    > The agreement will be signed on Friday

    > In a statement, Supreme National Security Council said the agreement called for an immediate end to military operations on all fronts, including Lebanon

    But Israel is never going to reverse its invasion of Lebanon, its key to their Greater Israel[1] project. It's important to know that Israel is currently occupying parts of southern Lebanon [2]. Trump would have to force Israel to stop its illegal invasion, that's never going to happen.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel#Egypt,_Syria_an...

    [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Lebanon_war

    • pugio9 minutes ago
      I've always wondered what "illegal" means in this context? Is it designed to just be a pejorative, or something incendiary? When is an invasion "legal"? I can't really think of any case where any kind of recognized body of law (especially one that both constituents would recognize) would impose legality on an invasion, so it seems that people say "illegal" in much the same way that "legal" has become a stand-in in our society for "moral".

      Should I read it as "immoral invasion"? Leaving aside whether it is or isn't, at least that framing makes sense, because you can meaningfully debate the morality of an invasion, but I can't understand how you could debate legality (except perhaps within the country's own internal framework of laws, like if a president declared a war without going through the proper legal channels).

    • ukblewis20 minutes ago
      Disgusting that dehumanising Israelis has become a past time of people on this website. Having stared down Hezbollah flags in Israel’s north and having friends living on the border under constant fire many of whom have had damage to their homes, I have no confusion of who Hezbollah is. If you have any soul, how about you speak to the families of the half a million Syrians that Hezbollah helped Assad’s regime to murder? Or the Lebanese about the enormous 2020 port explosion?
    • jameshilliard3 hours ago
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      • watwut2 hours ago
        They leveled whole villages to ground and created "freely kill any citizen you see" zone. They made millions homeless.

        Like common.

        • jameshilliard2 hours ago
          > They leveled whole villages to ground and created "freely kill any citizen you see" zone.

          That's a rather strange way of describing evacuation zones which Israel announces to reduce civilian casualties.

          > They made millions homeless.

          When one starts a war, loses and then refuses to surrender or negotiate a peace deal...that's not exactly surprising.

          • intothemildan hour ago
            > to reduce civilian casualties.

            I am in shock you wrote this.

            • jameshilliardan hour ago
              > I am in shock you wrote this.

              You're shocked I'm against killing civilians?

              Those who want civilian casualties are terrorist organizations like Hamas.[0]

              [0] https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11/middleeast/sinwar-hamas-israe...

              • intothemildan hour ago
                It's that anyone who is keeping count can see that the amount of Palestinian civilians that have been killed in this war is a very very large number.
                • jameshilliard41 minutes ago
                  > It's that anyone who is keeping count can see that the amount of Palestinian civilians that have been killed in this war is a very very large number.

                  Civilian deaths are in line with what would be expected for urban warfare with the enemy hiding amongst the civilian population. Obviously creating civilian deaths is part of the Hamas strategy.

            • Gibbon1an hour ago
              Yet you encourage people to start wars they can't win.

              I keep coming back to the first gulf war when Bush encouraged the Shiites to ride up against Hussain and then left them out to dry.

              Its what gets done to the Palestinians over and over. And the Jews aren't the enemies you need them to be because if they were the Palestinians would have been long scattered.

          • TomJansenan hour ago
            Your really put the shill in shilliard
          • watwutan hour ago
            I described it as what it exactly is. And it is meant to maximize civilian causalities while doing ethnic cleansing.

            Israel started that war, not civilians. I hope you are not suggesting what it implies.

      • lyu072822 hours ago
        These wars would only ever end if every force in the middle east that offers resistance to Israel's ambitions are defeated, but that resistance is both inevitable and offers the exact justification needed to implement said ambitions, its wonderfully circular.

        In Gaza they literally pulverized entire cities [1], making them uninhabitable, this isn't even really a war on terror by the western mainstream's standards, its a war on concrete paid for with american tax payer bombs and bulldozers. They are replicating that same exact playbook in Lebanon right now [2]. How morally bankrupt or completely misinformed do you have to be, to support this absolute barbarism at this point.

        [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-217c6a28-4a90-4d47-...

        [2] https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/24/middleeast/lebanon-destru...

        • jameshilliard2 hours ago
          > These wars would only ever end if every force in the middle east that offers resistance to Israel's ambitions are defeated, but that resistance is both inevitable and offers the exact justification needed to implement said ambitions, its wonderfully circular.

          Obviously if there are terrorist attacks coming from a neighboring country then one would expect retaliation. You seem to be arguing terrorist attacks don't justify a response.

          > In Gaza they literally pulverized entire cities [1], making them uninhabitable

          That's not unexpected when there are military tunnels under the cities. How else could they be eliminated?

          > this isn't even really a war on terror by the western mainstream's standards

          The western war on terror also had plenty of casualties.[0]

          [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_terror

          • benj1114 minutes ago
            You do realise that Gaza isn't a separate country? Not that it's the same country, as either option would require Israel to give it's citizens voting rights, or it's rights as an independent nation.
          • lyu0728238 minutes ago
            > That's not unexpected when there are military tunnels under the cities. How else could they be eliminated?

            Brilliant, any underground structure becomes a "terror tunnel", its wonderful you can level whole neighborhoods and afterwards claim it was justified because there were tunnels there. If that were true we would see gaps in the destruction in the satellite imagery wouldn't we? Or where they digging tunnels in grid patterns to every house in every neighborhood and under every street? What total moral bankruptcy to just blanked declare every civilian home and infrastructure as justifiable targets.

            Anyway if we want Israel talking points uncritically parroted we can just read literally any newspaper so spare us your breath.

      • memonkey3 hours ago
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        • jameshilliard2 hours ago
          > Holy shill account

          Some of us just haven't fallen for terrorist propaganda.

          • calgoo2 hours ago
            I'll bite, so the genocide is not happening then? Israel is not murdering innocent civilians on a grand scale, be that by directly killing or by indirect ways of starving them out?