15 pointsby vld_chk4 hours ago11 comments
  • DiabloD32 hours ago
    No.

    Humanity has yet to create an AI. LLMs are not AI.

    What you witnessed was an old man with a known and well documented case of dementia lashing out at people who wouldn't help him continue his attempt on strangling America to death under authoritarianism.

    • waffletower37 minutes ago
      I only downvoted the "Humanity has yet to create an AI" part. I agree that we have witnessed the actions of an old man with a case of dementia lashing out.
  • dgellow2 hours ago
    In a serious industry that would be the case, yes. However the software industry feels really immature and unserious. This year we’ve seen the shift to making everything agentic without understanding the associated cost and associated risks, at a ridiculous speed. I mean, the industry embraced integrating so deeply into all aspects of their business AI vendors who do not have an actual business model. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s just brushed off by Monday
  • HelloUsername2 hours ago
    Straight answer to your question: "No."

    As soon as the bomb of the Trinity test was detonated, the whole world entered the nuclear age, from that moment, irreversible. Quite a scale of an event to compare to.

  • vanuatu2 hours ago
    I wouldnt be surprised if the big labs become semi-nationalized commodities a la electricity / railroads due to national security, with the best models gatekept from outsiders trying to distill it

    And I'm generally bearish on Chinese models catching up at this point, American labs are pulling away especially with mythos-tier models, and early signs of RSI (not to mention the benchmaxxing going on from the chinese labs). If mythos allows users to execute agentic cybersecurity exploits at scale then the right thing to do is to guard access until you find a way to guardrail against it, which may be impossible

    • vld_chk2 hours ago
      I am not sure we have anything comparable with AI. Utility like electricity was hard to regulate from people because at some point anyone can build their own generator at the backyard.

      AI if anything is opposite. Extremely high bar to build, and every next increment requires at best linear scale of resources.

      If we imagine that AI became semi-nationalized and heavy regulated, then we enter the world where governments select companies and people to have access to capabilities which vast outlast capabilities available on the market. Company A is in “access list” and can deploy ruthless AI agent capable of advanced combined cyber operations; company B is denied. Who will win?

      If we add here polarization and already historic high inequality, it reads like a straight recipe from Cyberpunk sci-fi.

  • ramon156an hour ago
    It feels like this post was written with an LLM. If this is some bizarre Anthropic marketing scheme, then good job I guess.

    But no, you're talking about LLMs like we've suddenly made AGI happen. LLMs are still just cogs in the toolchain. Every cog has it's purpose. LLMs are no different.

  • PeterStuer3 hours ago
    Sensing the mood here in Europe, this has been a defining moment that wil have an impact far beyond just AI.
    • silexia10 minutes ago
      Europe is too over regulated to produce anything meaningful. The overhead and red tape just drown most entrepreneurs.
    • dgellow2 hours ago
      I really hope it’s the case, so far we had so many wake up calls that are eventually just forgotten with nothing happening
    • zwaps2 hours ago
      It will not. We are unable.
    • vld_chk2 hours ago
      I live in the UK, and as much as I love Europe as place to live, our future here looks very grim. Systematic problems multiplied to national inability to fund serious projects and cooperate at scale — this is a recipe for a disaster
  • eps33 minutes ago
    It's a part of a shake down by Trump and his circle. They want in.
  • bigyabai4 hours ago
    > There is little doubt that China will start to follow suit.

    According to who? China loves picking up the slack that America drops. When America turns it's nose up at slave labor, China exports Xinjiang cotton. When Americans get iffy about manufacturing chemicals and refining rare earths, China does the dirty work at-cost. When Russians need weapons, China crosses the sanctions to deliver them.

    My nearest estimation is that China will make some kind of announcement declaring no intention to limit AI exports. A lot of their leverage stems from undermining American control of AI research, which they can continue to escalate by offering no/low guidelines models to foreign customers. America's stance on this is overly politicized, which is a prime opportunity for China to look like the adult in the room (and get paid in the process).

    • kgeist3 hours ago
      I agree. China has a huge opportunity to boost its soft power globally as US companies pull back from the world stage. It would be very short-sighted of China to miss out on this. Chinese LLMs are trained with pro-CCP biases (e.g. Taiwan); when people use their official APIs, they can spy on user activity all over the world. I will be surprised if they follow suit.
    • throaway197512an hour ago
      Yep. China will take this opportunity to maximize their growth.
  • dude2507113 hours ago
    "...a barely profitable $1T startup..."

    My recommendation for them would be next time to create a profitable start-up or one that is valued at less than $1T.

  • russellbeattie3 hours ago
    The ban is 100% politically motivated retribution because Anthropic told Trump and Hegseth to go pound sand. The US government is purposefully screwing with the company because they refused to play ball and embarrassed the administration. It's a transparent effort to take revenge on a perceived political enemy as well as promote a jingoistic agenda of "US Citizens Only" nationalism.
    • nimblist2 hours ago
      100% this it's the usual transparent Trump revenge tactics. The sad/scary fact is that there seem to be plenty of people who either can't or choose not to see it.
  • ath3nd4 hours ago
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