15 pointsby v_ignatyev8 hours ago2 comments
  • purpleflashing6 hours ago
    I always wondered what people use these maps for. Does it help you find things faster in your notes?
    • azeirah5 hours ago
      They look cool, but it is known that they don't add much.

      In Obsidian, the local graph has real uses, but the global one is mostly to see structure in your notes and look cool on social media.

      I was researching and prototyping a graph like Obsidian's before Obsidian came out, based on the ideas in "how to take smart notes"

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6yUA46ek6M

      I believe the direction of UI I was exploring there has more than what graphs currently have, although I didn't have the time to build it out and I saw that the site has been offline for a while.

      It was a working tool though.

      • purpleflashing4 hours ago
        Thank you for sharing!

        I don’t personally use Zettelkasten but I can see how it benefits from the visualization — the system itself is basically building a graph (cards are nodes and links are edges), it makes sense to have a tool that lets you work with it visually.

        It’s a neat demo.

    • ElFitz4 hours ago
      The graph visualisation itself isn’t much use in my experience.

      But being able to tie related notes together, and see at the bottom of one which other notes reference it is interesting.

      Even more now that a LLM can take care of the actual tending and pruning.

      • purpleflashing4 hours ago
        Ah, I see, sort of like figuring out the boundaries of your knowledge base and seeing if you have missed any connections between concepts? I suppose it might be useful for learning/ideation. I should try something like that — it could be an interesting synthesis/writing exercise to try to connect concepts that are far removed in your own mental model.

        Thank you for sharing!

    • v_ignatyev5 hours ago
      Mostly to understand the structure of your knowledge base. To search across the KB it is more convenient to use Obsidian/gbrain itself.

      Suppose you've been collecting thousands of notes from meetings, feedback from colleagues or code-reviews, "insights" and tips from you wife over the years. Aren't you curious what this KB contains and how it has evolved over time?

      So, shortly it is a debug tool for your second brain.

      • purpleflashing5 hours ago
        > Aren't you curious what this KB contains and how it has evolved over time?

        Can you give a more specific example of what you have found in this data? I already know what KB contains and how it evolved — I was the one who put things into it, after all.

        Just to clarify — I am not being snarky or criticizing your project, I am genuinely curious. I like data visualization.

        P.s. Also, as an unrelated tangent, please feel free to ignore it — why did you put a hypothetical wife’s insights into quotation marks?

    • zby5 hours ago
      I am open to changing my mind and I am looking forward for answers to your question - but I think it is like a click bait - looks interesting - but not really useful.
      • v_ignatyev5 hours ago
        I used it to find out that my work notes and personal notes are mixed. Therefore, I decided to split this into separate KBs.

        Anyway, I'm just curious about what contained in my Obsidian and gbrain (mostly the latter one).

  • RHab4 hours ago
    I wanted something like this for my knowledge wiki, nexidion: https://github.com/HabermannR/Nexidion Will look how hard it is to combine next week, thanks!