146 pointsby matthewbarras2 hours ago30 comments
  • lebovic3 minutes ago
    This doesn't seem to work yet, but something like this could work for funding any project that can be orchestrated by AI!

    One example is therapeutics research. Many people are willing and able to fund research on a disease area, but they don't [1]. One reason is they don't know where to start. Another is that many projects lack transparency for the donor and progress is slow, so it feels akin to throwing money into a pit.

    A project like this could work there. Some therapeutics research is actually pretty straightforward [2], even though it's expensive and involves deeply trained people with PhDs and postdocs. Much of that research already happens through abstractions, like CROs for lab work and clinical trials.

    This type of project – even if it's currently a failing to build a Claude Shannon website – is one of the rare areas that leads me to feel excited about progress in AI.

    [1]: This is still limited to "people with lots of money"; therapeutics research is still incredible expensive and risky (e.g. many millions for bringing a potentially risky therapeutic to human use that will likely fail).

    [2]: Excluding hard things like novel delivery mechanisms, new types of treatments, etc.

  • bensyversonan hour ago
    This idea reads like a joke, but there's something to it.

    One feature request: In addition to high-level milestones, it would be cool if a partially-funded project would generate a public, highly detailed implementation plan.

    Also, IANAL but MIT is still a license with a copyright holder. I don't think saying "it's MIT, we all own it" is defensible. The courts might view all this code as public domain.

  • parliament32an hour ago
    I love how even the "demo build" doesn't work. https://fablepool.com/projects/7

    Rather, it did work at milestone 14, but then regressed at milestone 15, where it changed the link from a wikimedia image to a nonexistent file in /assets (despite still having the "Photo via Wikimedia Commons" caption).

    edit: they removed it :^)

    • CobrastanJorji16 minutes ago
      If you check "DEPLOYMENT.md," there is a lengthy list of deployment instructions for the app, and it includes creating an assets folder and putting an image of Claude Shannon in it. There are also other instructions, like "please make a favicon." So I think that bit is valid, the AI is simply farming out work to the human agent.

      My question, though, is why the "Live, public build log" only showing up to milestone 3, but the artifacts go up to milestone 15? And there are different index.html pages in the artifacts list, one for milestone 14 and one for milestone 15? Are there different conceptions of "milestone" in here? What's up with that?

  • nine_k2 hours ago
    Hear me out: the same idea, but hire live developers.

    (Given the price of tokens, it can even be not entirely a joke.)

    • bcjordan37 minutes ago
      This was a pre-LLM YC startup AssemblyMade which was basically this
    • skeledrewan hour ago
      Not affordable, unless the devs are in somewhere like Vietnam. And there's still no way they can build as fast. And still, at that price point, quality would be highly questionable. So yh this doesn't survive beyond the joke stage.
      • nine_kan hour ago
        The mention of quality puts it firmly into the joke territory, indeed.
    • electronsoupan hour ago
      If you put that behind an API, you could sell the service much like the AI providers
      • satvikpendeman hour ago
        And then get sued for fraud and go under, like Builder.ai
        • fragmedean hour ago
          What if, and I know this is utterly batshit insane to suggest, but what if we don't lie about what we're doing?
    • tptacekan hour ago
      I don't understand how that would not be a complete joke even if tokens were 2 orders of magnitude more expensive than they are.
    • sailingparrotan hour ago
      Thats called Kickstarter
    • cortesoft35 minutes ago
      how expensive do you think tokens are, and/or how cheap do you think a developer is?
    • dboreham16 minutes ago
      Fable will actually finish the job.
    • a1oan hour ago
      It can work for students as a grant
  • chrisss395a minute ago
    This strikes me as crowd-funded prompt caching, but with humans in the loop.
  • itintheory9 minutes ago
    They should have called this "WishingWell". I'm wishing them well, but some of these projects are so over the top pie-in-the-sky silly, and funded with $0.25.
  • fuddle2 hours ago
    I feel like using Fable in the name is a mistake, who knows how long that model will be around.
    • CobrastanJorji14 minutes ago
      I don't think using the name Fable is wrong, but I think a pool of Fables should be called a Grimm, or possibly an Aesop.
    • an0malousan hour ago
      You could call it aiproductsexchange.com
      • andrewstuart2an hour ago
        Bold move leaving out the dash between words a la experts-exchange lol.
    • vlovich1232 hours ago
      It's how they name classes of models, presumably this implies something about the relative quantization / size of model, not about the specific performance. E.g. Fabel 5 will be better than Opus 5, better than Sonnet 5, etc. The 5 is the version number of the particular iteration / training run at this class of model.
      • pseudocoupan hour ago
        I think they mean: I feel like using [Sonnet/Opus/Fable] in the name [URL] is a mistake, who knows how long that model will be around
  • GodelNumbering14 minutes ago
    "Solve Garbage Collection in C# for HFT · $10.00 raised of est. $200.00 target"

    This can't be serious.

    Broader point I am making is, what differentiates genuine ideas from the token burn? What happens when the pool exhausts but the task is not done?

    • bethekidyouwant7 minutes ago
      You keep putting money into the slot and pulling the lever
  • brikym44 minutes ago
    I think the bottleneck is testing. I want to build a replacement for Zwift, a virtual gym game for bike trainers and treadmills, but testing it could be difficult without a real person on real hardware. How does the LLM know about the hardware protocols and stuff like that.
  • TrueGeek2 hours ago
    So the completed sample was estimated at $0.35, actually cost $0.52, but spend $0.55

    This bot is almost as bad as I am at estimating projects.

    • pitchedan hour ago
      Did it not charge anything for the estimation itself? I wonder what model they’re using for that
    • MeetingsBrowseran hour ago
      > Build a completely greenroom, open source AWS

      > est. total target $516.00

      Lol

      • pitched39 minutes ago
        A lot of AWS is built on open-source. This is obviously ignoring hardware costs. I don’t know if it is all that ridiculous anymore. These models are very good at wiring together open-source systems. The world is crazy right now…
  • xpct2 hours ago
    Before putting in money to this small anonymous website, I'd love to hear about the people behind the project. There's a single mention of 'Barras Industries', but not much mention about them online, or what else they've worked on.
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    • inoreip38 minutes ago
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  • kasince2k5 minutes ago
    attach github to this. this is the new way to do opensource i guess
  • raincole31 minutes ago
    Man, I really hope this kind of effort could be put into auditing the security situation of open source projects (via Mythos or not.)
  • xyzsparetimexyzan hour ago
    Fantastic idea for a rug pull
  • throwthrowuknow13 minutes ago
    Like DeFi but for agencies.
  • 3adk1aan hour ago
    Everything turns into a computer game and entertainment.

    Maybe add a "Build a worm that shuts down all Anthropic data centers."

    • pitched39 minutes ago
      This, unfortunately, gets flagged for cyber and you would need to be on the unlocked Mythos.
  • alchemist1e913 minutes ago
    Cypherpunks will be proud once there is a version of this cryptocurrency funded to providers receiving the cryptocurrency.

    Or maybe there is? or a version where only those funding have access to the results.

  • evanwolfan hour ago
    Kinda fun but the approach today is strictly oneshot. Waiting for agentswithwallets to post.
  • 0xferruccio44 minutes ago
    This is a genius idea, I love it!!
  • stonesy88an hour ago
    Brilliant idea! We need consensus protocols for voting on phases. Similar to the "twitch" plays Pokemon phenomenom.
    • kasince2k3 minutes ago
      anyone who donates gets to vote (?)
  • Eridrus2 hours ago
    Hell yeah, $516 for a complete AWS replacement, I'm in lol!
    • ____tom____43 minutes ago
      Reminds of the four college kids that were going to clone Facebook. Turns out it's hard than it looks, if you have never tried it.
    • MeetingsBrowser42 minutes ago
      I wonder how the estimates are being created.

      I doubt an LLM would estimate an AWS rewrite to cost $500.

  • suddenlybananasan hour ago
    https://fablepool.com/projects/7 It didn't even put a picture in!
  • keyle2 hours ago
    This is literally an idea by the primegean on his YouTube under predictions. Self prophecy really with his reach but credit where it's due?
  • skeledrewan hour ago
    Is this the new open source?
  • johnwheeleran hour ago
    This is a good idea and for features and modifications you can make it so whoever chips in the most money gets more votes.

    This is one of those ideas that sounds bad on paper (Like people renting out their houses. But if implemented correctly could get some traction.

  • colesantiagoan hour ago
    This is a fantastic idea.

    There are lots of projects, software that shouldn't be SaaS subscriptions that Fable can build in public that can be free for everyone and also OSS.

  • Lupara2 hours ago
    [dead]
  • orliesaurus44 minutes ago
    Ok who wants to pool up to build GTA 7? /s
  • MattyLinky2 hours ago
    This is such a good idea. Hell yeah
  • JohnMakin35 minutes ago
    "I want an open source AWS" with $500 budget made me guffaw
    • squidsoup22 minutes ago
      OpenStack already exists
    • LearnYouALisp21 minutes ago
      "I have a turbofan model, pls build an Airbus" sounds about right