You Can Run(magazine.atavist.com)

81 pointsby bryanrasmussen7 hours ago8 comments

bee_rider4 hours ago
Wow, that was quite a lot of cryptic build-up. It’s basically a story about conman/drug guy interwoven with biographical information and anecdotes about how this impacted his family.
“You can run,” I guess maybe in the context of “You can run but you can’t hide” is not really touched upon too much. I mean it doesn’t have a particular connection to this story, any more than any other story about a fugitive.
- muglug3 hours ago
  Yeah — but includes a fun cameo from a famous 90s TV dad.
- jmye22 minutes ago
  Have you ever like, read books? Why on earth would you think the title of a piece needs to call to anything but a general emotion from the story?
  > Wow, that was quite a lot of cryptic build-up.
  Yes, they were building suspense and telling an interesting story. It's a long form article, not a 30-word tweet. Jesus.
  - JRandomHacker4220 minutes ago
    I've seen this attitude on HN all the time - the concept of "a narrative hook" is apparently a foreign concept here
- kayo_202110303 hours ago
  Yup. A big yawn. It seems like it ought to deep and insightful, but is, as you say, "basically a story about conman/drug guy interwoven with biographical information and anecdotes about how this impacted his family". There's no connection between the two parts that goes deeper that "they knew each other once, but did they really know each other?". It'd be Hallmark, but the parents aren't sympathetic enough.
ahwvd37js25 minutes ago
In the long tradition of commenting on HN without reading the source, I was about to write up everything I've learned about running over the years...shoes, routes, stretches, rest days, IT band therapy, ...
delichon4 hours ago
```
  The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. -- Ezekiel 18:20
```
That was aspirational around 590 BC when written, and still is. To isolate children from the iniquity of the parent would require the dissolution of the family.
- password43213 hours ago
  You can't quote that without also quoting:
  Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. -- Exodus 34:7
  - Exoristos21 minutes ago
    Except that the writer in Ezekiel is proposing a new deal (in the voice of God) for his intended audience: basically, if at this point in the negotiations you forsake behavior A, various criminality and oppression; I will promise B, not to hold your relatives responsible, and C, to rescue those you've oppressed. (Also possibly D and E -- it's a long passage.)
  - incr_me2 hours ago
    Why not?
    nkriscan hour ago
    Probably to show you can pick any choose any bible verse to make whatever point you want. There’s a verse for A and NOT A.
- boothby4 hours ago
  My favorite (dys|u)topian setting; universal child removal to robo-nurseries, gets closer to implementable every day.
  - Etheryte4 hours ago
    They more or less did that during the bombing of London, children were evacuated to foster families in the countryside en masse. Luckily they came to terms with the fact that this was an insanely traumatic experience pretty quickly and reverted. It's literally less traumatic for a child to be in an active war zone than to be separated from their parents.
    trelane16 minutes ago
    > It's literally less traumatic for a child to be in an active war zone than to be separated from their parents.
    Unless they happen to go to war themselves, vanquishing an evil queen with the help of a lion and becoming kings and queens, and reigning for a long while themselves.
    Those kids seem to mostly turn out alright. Small sample size though.
    CamouflagedKiwi3 hours ago
    Unless the child is killed in said active war zone, which was the maximally traumatic outcome they were trying to avoid. Some evacuation was reverted, but there were also later waves; I don't think it was clear that it was overall the wrong thing given the very possible outcomes of heavier bombing or even invasion.
    kortilla4 hours ago
    Does this apply to babies separated at birth though?
    moralestapia4 hours ago
    The trauma shifts forward in time, like debt.
  - marginalia_nu26 minutes ago
    Amusing how many read excerpts of The Republic and come away thinking it's a utopian project, and not a thought experiment to investigate the nature of justice.
- lazyasciiart4 hours ago
  And as many adoptive parents know, that doesn’t go so easily.
tobyhinloopen2 hours ago
I expected a “running for beginners” app hah, like for training / endurance
twobitshifter31 minutes ago
I read it all. There are no shockers in the boxes. It's all explained ahead of time and by the time the contents of the boxes are revealed, you'll wish you didn't read all of that.
RickJWagner2 hours ago
Car racing and drug running must have been closely linked in the 80s. For another great read about them, check out Randy Lanier’s story. ( He had racing boats, too. )
Maybe Miami Vice was closer to truth than we knew.
davidw3 hours ago
On the subject of crime and that web site, I thought this story was quite fascinating:
https://magazine.atavist.com/2019/outlaw-country-klamath-cou...
There are a lot of those bits of land throughout the west that have been, for whatever reason, subdivided enough to make them very cheap plots of land in remote areas. They tend to attract a lot of very random people.
There's an area like that near where I live in Bend, Oregon where some guy called in to the Sheriff's department worried about his brother. The deputies decided to visit the next day because it was winter and already dark. Reading that, I had a record scratch moment where I was going "wait, the sheriff's deputy wouldn't visit the area after dark - holy crap".
wwarner2 hours ago
Honestly i come to hn to escape true crime.