20 pointsby orwin6 hours ago5 comments
  • wetmore43 minutes ago
    This article is absolutely infuriating and so many of the people included should be deeply ashamed of their behavior (as described). I understand that the people at the hospital are in danger of legal retribution so for many of them their cowardice is excusable. But the examples of the hospital CEO making empty promises without actually doing anything, and the hospital refusing to foot the $5,000 bill to transfer the patient to a location that would actually care for her are morally disgusting. The lawmakers that intentionally created this grey area though are the true villains for willingly gambling with women's lives to score political capital.
  • orwin6 hours ago
    (I had to edit the title to keep it under the character limit, i tried to keep the information correct)
    • gabrielsroka3 hours ago
      Actual title "She faced a life-threatening miscarriage. Under Arkansas’ abortion ban, even calls to the governor’s office didn’t help"
  • stevenalowe4 hours ago
    The governor is a big part of the problems in Arkansas - it is unlikely that any of her aides cared enough to even mention it to her, though I doubt she would have had any empathy as she and her legislators have worked very hard to keep the situation the same
  • metalliqaz5 hours ago
    > Her patients often panic and beg for help, but none have had the resources to travel to another state for care.

    I wish there was more detail on this. I often wonder how someone is able to get themselves to a hospital, but when faced with death, is unable to get themselves to another state. Not any family member with a car? Not a neighbor? Friend? Not even a bus ticket?

    • stevenalowe4 hours ago
      From the article: fear of bleeding out on the journey
    • 5 hours ago
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    • watwut3 hours ago
      Presumably, they are not right at the border and multiple hours of driving can turn out to be too much.
  • AndrewKemendo6 hours ago
    > “Our hands are tied behind our backs,” Dr. Erin Large later told her, according to a journal Waldorf began keeping on her phone and shared with ProPublica. “Tell your friends to vote differently.”

    “I’m just doing what I am told” is basically the operating principle of everybody now no matter what.

    Everyone saw this coming everybody talked about the implications of it it was very well understood, it was very well known.

    If you’re in this position you have a choice to make: Do what is good for your patient or keep your job

    The fact that the entire medical (and almost every) industry is like this should be an indictment of our entire society but the fact that nobody, not even doctors, are going to put their job on the line for someone else even if they might die tells you what you need to know about who you live around.

    • ok_dad5 hours ago
      This isn’t a job risk, those doctors will be imprisoned for a very long time, or worse, if they perform anything resembling an abortion. The voters of Alabama wanted that, apparently.
    • stevenalowean hour ago
      The penalty is $100,000 and up to 10 years in jail
    • sanp5 hours ago
      The doctors would be putting more than their jobs on the line.