53 pointsby Kye3 hours ago11 comments
  • le-markan hour ago
    > the studio were concerned that Gero’s take on the series “would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise’s already dedicated fanbase.” This is a key component in reviving a legacy IP

    It was popular because of who? The fans! No one needed the Disney-ization of Stargate. This is probably a good thing.

    • rgblambda38 minutes ago
      As bummed as I am by this news, I kinda understand the logic. The fan base likely didn't make up the majority of viewing figures when SG-1 and it's spin-offs were on the air. Otherwise, it would have been revived much sooner after their big bet on direct to DVD movies didn't pan out.
    • iammilesan hour ago
      The framing here gives some good insight into other controversial Amazon adaptations.
  • ojkellyan hour ago
    For those who don’t know (which seems to be the entire comment section at the moment), the new show is/was not a remake, they intended to follow on from the existing series.

    I was pretty optimistic after watching the announcement [0] that this would be a decent show.

    Here’s hoping they’ve developed it enough that they can shop it around.

    [0] https://youtu.be/e82uV9sBt4I?si=ZY3qO4o8r1DH5voG

    • lucisferrean hour ago
      Given the IP situation, is shopping it around even on the table?
      • randallsquaredan hour ago
        Joseph Mallozzi says it's not, and he was involved with the new series development. I suppose Amazon is making enough from the concept that they aren't interested in selling it.
        • p1neconean hour ago
          How would they make anything from it if they aren't going to make the show?
          • randallsquared35 minutes ago
            Possibly it continues to stream frequently enough to be considered a contributor to Prime Video? Not sure if you can stream it other places, but if so, those fees would be continued revenue that might disappear if the reaction to a new show is poor.
          • daemin41 minutes ago
            They aren't going to make _this_ show, they might make another show in the future, one catering to a broader (non-core-fan) audience.
    • Izikiel43an hour ago
      > From the existing series

      Which one? Universe? Atlantis? SG1?

      • saurikan hour ago
        All of those are from the same continuity. (The show was not to be a remake/reboot, but also was not to be like, another season of one of the existing shows. I do wish they would just figure out how to finish Stargate: Universe... they even likely-purposefully left the plot/characters in a state where they could actually do the next season now, even after all this time, and even if some of the actors can't or won't be involved anymore.)
        • singingtodayan hour ago
          And all had at least crossover. Such a fantastic franchise.
  • calmbonsaian hour ago
    We didn't want a "fresh perspective" on Stargate. We just wanted more classic Stargate.

    Not at all related, "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy". ;)

  • relyksan hour ago
    Why do they even make announcements that they're going into production and then casually cancel the show? Do they not know they are completely toying with the emotions of fans? Giving false hope is worse than no hope.
  • throw7an hour ago
    Amazon? I'm sure Macgyver would've had to be a woman. And make her gay.
    • hdndjsbbs40 minutes ago
      Oh no, a sci-fi series making a character a woman? Like that famous train wreck Battlestar Galactica?
      • atmavatar22 minutes ago
        Who cares about Starbuck's gender swap when you have Number Six?

        I suppose if you make O'Neill a woman, you could bring in Vala earlier in the series as a similar distraction

  • mynegationan hour ago
    I am still mad at them for cancelling Wheel of Time.
    • diabllicseagull2 minutes ago
      Same. The third season was great and left me wanting for more. Alas.
    • fmajid35 minutes ago
      TBH, it was a train wreck apart from the actresses who played Moiraine and Lanfear.
    • losvedir43 minutes ago
      Oh no! This is how I found out they cancelled it.
  • spicymakian hour ago
    Good! Did you really need more Stargate? Just watch the classic movie, and 200+ episodes of SG-1 and then 100+ episodes of Atlantis. Let these franchises rest.
    • b65e8bee43c2ed036 minutes ago
      >Let these franchises rest.

      your beloved franchises vill be re-imagined for ze modern audience und there's nothing you can do about it.

      Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.

    • singingtodayan hour ago
      I want more. Yes, I'm greedy.
      • calmbonsai43 minutes ago
        You are not alone. That 'verse has so much to explore and so many possible pathways and plot-lines yet requited. We know nothing about the Furlings.
        • foxes36 minutes ago
          Their planet exploded though
      • relyksan hour ago
        All the fans want more and a continuation of the story.
  • chicagoboban hour ago
    That's a bummer. I literally started my latest rewatch because of this news.
  • dyauspitr13 minutes ago
    They would probably ruin it anyway. The new commander would probably be a woman and be totally bland like the lord of the rings thing they did. I don’t know anyone that has watched that.
  • jazz9k3 hours ago
    The new Quantum Leap was terrible and most of the new Star Trek shows were equally as bad.

    Maybe this is a good thing.

    • thedanboban hour ago
      When I first heard about the reboot all I could think of was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HeNZBItzps

      I'm going to call this news a win.

      • randallsquaredan hour ago
        It wasn't a reboot, but a continuation. That doesn't mean it would have been good, of course (cf Universe), but better than a reboot.
    • observationistan hour ago
      Hopefully we hit that mythical "hollywood level audio/video" AI before too much longer and really creative people can run pirate series.
    • Dig1tan hour ago
      Not to mention what Amazon did the Lord of the Rings. It is probably a good thing.
    • ls6122 hours ago
      The new Expanse was good though.
      • seer42 minutes ago
        Sad they didn’t finish it. The later books seemed like they were written “to be movies/series” with less political stuff and more visuals / speculative sci-fi. Plus the story has an actual half decent conclusion.

        To me the plight of Hollywood is “forever shows” where the writers start without knowing where it would end, so shows never really “end” they just slowly fizzle out without ever getting to the end.

        I simply loved “the good place” for having such a powerful conclusion.

        • rgblambda30 minutes ago
          I'm currently reading the first book that takes place after the conclusion of the show. There's a large time jump and I suspect they didn't want to age up the actors for 3 seasons.
  • OutOfHerean hour ago
    If you haven't seen Stargate SG-1, it was one of the greatest shows. I would rather rewatch it than watch a bad remake. Stargate Atlantis was not half bad either.

    They will likely hire the cheapest script writer, who in turn will likely offload it to the cheapest LLM, resulting in derivative work that is not in any way creative or inspiring.

    • Sebgueran hour ago
      "modern wokeness", ah, yes. Because the show about religion as a means of control, that featured strong women throughout, was broadly about how colonialism is bad and the importance of respecting different cultures, that brute force was almost never the 'right answer' is anti-woke.
      • randallsquaredan hour ago
        I'm on season 6 of a rewatch with family right now, and I will say that one of the things I had not remembered was just how much of the time brute force IS the right answer in this show.
      • rayiner40 minutes ago
        Your post is so close to connecting the dots to realize that, when people complain about “woke” shows today, it’s not because they feature “strong women.”
      • Kyean hour ago
        Many classic scenes like the P90 demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjlCVW_ouL8

        Or Carter's literal first scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi4lt-17OxE

        And so on

      • OutOfHerean hour ago
        For example, look at all the recent Star Trek series; they have been an abomination, and are rightfully canceled.
        • Kyean hour ago
          State, don't insinuate.
        • jfengelan hour ago
          Ah, yes. That great anti-woke series Star Trek.
        • jghnan hour ago
          I’ve seen those shows and still don’t know what you mean. Since you didn’t mean the other stuff you’ll need to be more explicit
      • readthenotes1an hour ago
        "Modern woke' would have Samantha Carter be be a quadriplegic trans person of color in a complicated polycule whose father was killed by American forces and one of the many overseas illegal activities. Sam is just so smart, though, they have to give zher clearance (and at least one of the episodes will be about respecting pronouns)
    • HDThoreaunan hour ago
      Yea I watched stargate SG-1 and can confirm that plenty of media released post covid is not only half as great, but a good deal better.
      • OutOfHerean hour ago
        Like what (in sci-fi)? Not counting the Star Wars series, the last independent good scifi show that I recall was The Expanse, the majority of which was pre-Covid. In fairness, Foundation is okay.
        • HDThoreaunan hour ago
          It's funny you mention the expanse because I find it similar to the stargate show. Solid, but in no way extraordinary. Now, I agree sci-fi especially TV has been a bit rough recently, but that's mostly because its not popular so there isnt much made, not anything to do with ability to make it.

          Still, there have been sci fi masterpieces released recently. Dune being the most obvious. Not an original story but a far more worthy production than stargate sg-1. Everything everywhere all at once was also more compelling than stargate imo but this might be where your anti woke complaints come in. Nope also fits this bill, but fine you dont have to love that. There are still examples which have no wokeness at all as far as I can tell. I found the foundation show to be similar quality to stargate sg-1, perhaps a bit worse I guess but in no way definitively worse. Topically I found project hail mary to be good enough, certainly no worse than stargate.

          • singingtodayan hour ago
            SG1 is a masterpiece and one of the greatest pieces of fiction created.
            • HDThoreaun43 minutes ago
              Aesthetics are subjective after all
          • readthenotes1an hour ago
            I think most people here are talking about the Stargate SG-1 TV series and not the movie.
            • HDThoreaun44 minutes ago
              As am I. If the take is just that sci fi movies dont count and only 22 episode seasons count as "real" sci fi we can have that conversation too. It's a valid take that I absolutely disagree with. But that's not how I read the original comment(which has now been edited to remove the woke part)