7 pointsby seattle_spring2 hours ago4 comments
  • simonwan hour ago
    I like these definitions:

    - AI Engineer: an engineer who builds software that makes use of LLMs and other AI models, and maybe trains models (but not required)

    - Agentic Engineer: an engineer who makes use of AI tools like coding agents when writing software.

    AI Engineer was quite well established in the last few years to that first meaning, mainly thanks to swyx in 2023: https://www.latent.space/p/ai-engineer - which then lead to the popular AI Engineer Summit / World's Fair series of events https://www.ai.engineer/

    But this year coding agents have become much more widely spread (the category didn't exist when AI Engineer was coined in 2023), so there's a possibility the term is being redefined to describe people who use those. I think that's a bad redefinition, personally.

    ("Agentic Engineer" is much less widely used, there may be other names for that category of engineer that I've not encountered yet.)

    • seattle_springan hour ago
      Considering 99% of engineers are using AI tools, that would mean all engineers are now "Agentic Engineers." Are we really no longer putting any value on someone who has expertise in understanding the code it produces?
      • simonwan hour ago
        Right, that's why I don't think that class particularly needs a name. It's trending towards "software engineers" now.

        We need a name for engineers who don't use coding agents.

  • gavinray2 hours ago
    I wrote an entire blogpost about this ridiculous phenomenon:

    https://gavinray97.github.io/blog/absurdity-of-ai-engineer-t...

    • simonwan hour ago
      I think "They wanted an engineer to build a chatbox that called ChatGPT with company documents as prompt context" fits the term "AI Engineer", personally - see https://www.latent.space/p/ai-engineer which uses it for "applied" AI.
  • agup7922 hours ago
    The definition is definitely changing.. or the way people are using it. AI PM used to mean something very different than what it does now as well!
  • root-parent2 hours ago
    Somebody soon to lose their job?
    • kys11an hour ago
      Soon to be a “facilities engineer” lol