29 pointsby droidjj3 hours ago5 comments
  • ryandrake2 hours ago
    > both Dayton and Evanston city officials told residents that they were not sure whether they could immediately deactivate or remove the cameras under the terms of their contracts.

    How could they not be sure? Surely they 1. have a copy of the contract, 2. can read, and 3. have access to counsel. If not, are city officials that incompetent?

    • SirFatty10 minutes ago
      Classic definition of "weasel words".
  • sonofhans2 hours ago
    > Dayton is not the first city to cover its Flock cameras with trash bags because they can’t figure out how to immediately terminate the use of the cameras. Late last year, the city of Evanston, Illinois also covered its cameras with trash bags while it was waiting for the company to remove them from the city.

    We were just discussing “1984” and “We” a few days ago, books primarily about mass surveillance and the attendant harms. Neither of those books saw profit motive, though, they were all about top-down political power making use of surveillance.

    I suppose at the time of reading those I thought that would be the origin — a government decides and starts putting up cameras, like London. A for-profit entity festooning the landscape with these things, though, damn. Clearly the powers-that-be can do the math on how easy it is exfiltrate this data from private to government hands. This sympathetic cooperation between governments and corps smells very much like early fascism to me.

  • josefritzishere2 hours ago
    This is just the right thing to do.
  • SilverElfin2 hours ago
    Nice. Why stop at Flock though? Maybe they can do all ALPRs and speed cameras next. It doesn’t matter which company operates them.
    • jerlam2 hours ago
      Citizens have a very different opinion on speed cameras than Flock. Despite them being very similar in terms of technology.
      • happytoexplainan hour ago
        Who cares about the tech? Humans care about practical reality. You can use cameras for anything.
    • comrade12342 hours ago
      I appreciate the occasional mobile speed camera in my neighborhood.
      • josefritzisherean hour ago
        Nobody likes speed cameras after they get a ticket in the mail.
        • happytoexplainan hour ago
          I actually know a person who has gotten a speed-camera ticket and still supports them.

          He was speeding.

  • kotaKat2 hours ago
    Just wait until everyone flips to Axon Outposts and they see what the Axon Fusus platform does with the video coming in from them. :)

    https://www.axon.com/products/axon-vision

    Note the demo reels showing "fights detected" coming from their Outpost (Flock-adjacent clone) and Lightpost (UbiHub AI+ and Streetlight-mounted Axis Q1800) cameras with a level of confidence that was confirmed by a human operator.