75 pointsby aghuang5 hours ago12 comments
  • gigatree19 minutes ago
    Board finally realized people can just do this themselves with FTP/SVN/rsync and curlftpfs
    • jedberg17 minutes ago
      • sillysaurusx12 minutes ago
        > Most people I know e-mail files to themselves

        It would be nice if that still worked. My resume exists in an iCloud drive, and I spent ten minutes on my phone trying to figure out how to attach it to a gmail message before giving up. "Copying" a file isn't even a well-defined operation anymore. (Or at least "pasting" doesn't always paste it.)

        • dghlsakjg5 minutes ago
          It’s literally: click the paper clip logo in Gmail, tap files, pick your file.

          You can also just go into the files app, tap and hold, tap copy, go to Gmail tap and hold in your draft email, tap paste.

          There’s other paths that work too, like hitting the “send to” logo in files and then selecting Gmail.

          It’s really the exact same patterns I might use on a computer for the most part.

        • genxy8 minutes ago
          When you get stuck in a task like this, you realize that civilization will collapse with a whimper.
        • watermelon02 minutes ago
          Sharing files between apps and file management in general on iOS is atrocious.

          I assumed this was a solved problem before Windows 98 (first desktop OS I used), but Apple cannot get this right 28 years later.

      • Ologn6 minutes ago
        Tangential to the theme, here is the HN post about the (AFAIK) first public success of deep learning techniques with SuperVision's AlexNet. You can read what their prognosis on the future success of deep learning was (hint: same prognosis as Dropbox)

        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4611830

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    • bachmeier8 minutes ago
      The upcoming Claude Brandon release will make Dropbox obsolete.
    • mv47 minutes ago
      Only took 19 years!
    • seydor9 minutes ago
      Or maybe he did
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  • browningstreet14 minutes ago
    Having just rsync'd 100s of GBs back down from B2 and not sure where to put it, and having lots and lots of business documents and video files to share with collaborators, I'm surprised how few competitors there are in the Dropbox space.

    With their block level syncing, Dropbox is still not really replicated in the market. I'd only take issue with their price given the volumes of data I'm dealing with.

    Being able to set local and not-local flags on files/folders is great.

    I spent some time trying to use a few of their alternatives, plus their mobile client apps, and it's kinda just Dropbox still.

    • ajkjk2 minutes ago
      It's a bad market to take on because the competition is 'commodification by Google/Apple/Microsoft'. If you do a great job you compete with Dropbox on price and quality, and if you do anything short of that you compete with the office suite versions of the same product, which are effectively free to their subscribers so getting people to give you money is very hard. Dropbox itself is perpetually at risk of being commodified out of existence, such that their constant battle is finding ways to make sure their customers can still justify paying for them as a separate service.

      (at least this was the ambient understanding internally when I worked there a few years ago)

    • packetlost11 minutes ago
      it really is too bad. All of the major tech companies' competitors are junk. Google Drive is the least bad of the bunch (out of, say, OneDrive, iCloud, and formerly Amazon Drive), but it's still not great to deal with. DropBox really does do a great job
      • sssilver2 minutes ago
        What's the issue with iCloud?
        • browningstreeta minute ago
          For business purposes I didn't want to use iCloud. But it seems like it's iCloud & Dropbox then.
    • 1970-01-018 minutes ago
      You could just put it on a local disk? 512GB sdcard is like $15 at Walmart.
      • browningstreet2 minutes ago
        I wanted a forever backup. I'm going to trust Apple and a hard drive.
      • dghlsakjg2 minutes ago
        Check the price of flash memory again. That $15 card is almost certainly a scam.
    • stackghost2 minutes ago
      >With their block level syncing, Dropbox is still not really replicated in the market. I'd only take issue with their price given the volumes of data I'm dealing with.

      Business Strategy 101 teaches that broadly speaking, there are 3 categories into which companies fall, which are cost leadership, differentiation, or segment focus.

      If, as you say, your only pain point is the cost of dropbox, then any potential alternative would be competing to be the cost leader, and cost leadership strategies are unattractive for startups. Nobody is investing in early-stage companies building "a cheaper clone of XYZ". It's hard to attract startup talent to "a cheaper clone of XYZ". It's rarely fun for founders to build "a cheaper clone of XYZ".

      Unfortunately I think there are limited avenues for successful differentiation in the file sync space. Self-hosted vs cloud, standalone vs OS-level integration, cross-platform vs not? Can't think of much else off the top of my head, and I think big players are able to throw shitloads of engineering talent at OS-level integration features (and that gets you iCloud, basically).

      Beating dropbox at their own game wouldn't be impossible, but I think that's why there aren't many competitors in that space.

      • ajkjka few seconds ago
        The real issue is that if you do manage to build a cheaper clone they can just delete you by lowering their prices. It'll hurt the growth they have to show investors but not as much as letting you live will.
  • georgel20 minutes ago
    • arealaccount9 minutes ago
      Man HN was a different place back then. People sharing ideas and getting constructive (even if comically wrong) feedback. It reads more like founders and hackers helping each other. The discussions lately are more like folks armchair analyzing or speculating companies that are already incumbent tech giants.

      Or maybe I just click those headlines at a higher rate..

    • sillysaurusx17 minutes ago
      I was user 315, back when it was possible to determine your user number via the public url feature.

      Is there anything this simple now? What I miss is being able to right click on an item, click "copy public URL", paste it into the browser, and get an exact copy of that item (with nothing else; no image overlays, no ads, nothing).

      In the limit case you should be able to use it as a webhosting service for static files, since visiting an html page in a browser serves that file and relative links are preserved.

      I guess it's a losing value proposition, but it sure would be nice.

      It's unfortunate the original demo video was lost to time. I remember how astounding it was.

      • jeffbee13 minutes ago
        > right click on an item, click "copy public URL", paste it into the browser, and get an exact copy of that item

        You have described Google Drive.

        • sillysaurusx10 minutes ago
          Not quite; it's not a direct link to the item.

          Put <img src="foo.jpg"> into an html file, alongside foo.jpg. In the original Dropbox, if you opened a link to the html file, you'd see a webpage that successfully rendered foo.jpg. So you could use it as a static file host.

    • 1970-01-0111 minutes ago
      It was quite a stupid and expensive ride, but they were vindicated, especially on point 3:

      >Our business is in a stronger position than it's been in years

      >What’s energized me most since joining Dropbox is the connection people have with our brand

      >It gives me a lot of confidence in what’s ahead for Dropbox

      All corporate fluff, no actual content.

    • giancarlostoro14 minutes ago
      It is a darn shame, if the major OS providers didn't roll their own cloud storage, Dropbox could have been the default go-to across the board, and any other competitors that would have risen.
    • pikseladam18 minutes ago
      i didn't expect to laugh when i enter news today :)
      • ignoramous11 minutes ago
        Daniel Gackle thinks BrandonM's is most probably the most misunderstood comment in news.yc history.

        from: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27067281

          Other users have provided the link, but my heart sinks a little every time I see this brought up, especially when the commenter is singled out by name. People forget that this is a real person. He also happens to be a great HN contributor, and has been for many years.
        
          I realize it's internet fun to point neon arrows at people seeming outrageously wrong in the past, but the truth is that people aren't reading that comment accurately and there's a huge dose of hindsight fallacy here.
        
          When BrandonM wrote "I have a few qualms with this app", he didn't mean the software. He meant their YC application. (Note the title of Drew's post: "My YC App"). He wasn't being a petty nitpicker—he was earnestly trying to help, and you can see in how sweetly he replied to Drew there that he genuinely wanted them to succeed. We should be so lucky for all responses to "crazy new ideas" to be that decent. This community would be healthier, and actually the current thread is a standout example of how far from true it is.
        
          The criticisms he was raising turned out to be a non-issue in hindsight, but were on point in 2007, when the idea of file synchronization was widely derided as a solution-in-search-of-a-problem which only technical users would ever care about, users who (as the comment pointed out) could already roll their own solutions. The idea had recently been publicly mocked in a famous blog post*, so it was on people's minds as the prime example of an idea only technical users would ever care about—and even YC funded Dropbox because they believed in Drew, not the idea.
        
          * described at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23229275
        
        More: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
  • postalcoder9 minutes ago
    I think I've spent more on dropbox, lifetime, than most other subscriptions (it's also the first service i thought was worth paying a subscription for). I still pay for it. Drew built a great service.

    On the other hand, I can't think of a single new feature they've introduced since 2011. All I care about is packrat and good syncing. Is there anybody that loves anything they've built in the last fifteen years? I feel like the company could have had a skeleton crew keeping the lights on and I wouldn't have noticed a thing.

    Now, in 2026, all I want is for my coding agent to be able to grep the files in dropbox. Feel like dropbox will sooner rely on selling merch than offering something useful like that, though.

  • njt5 minutes ago
    I recently placed some PDF files for some nontechnical people on Dropbox. To avoid confusing them with the long complicated Dropbox URL, I even created a shortened link for them to use (think https://event.myorg.test).

    Almost none of them had Dropbox accounts.

    I found out later from someone that 90% of them couldn’t access the files. The link didn’t require a login but they made it look to the unsophisticated observer that you need an account to get the files. So these folks (most of them were elderly), just gave up.

  • aresant6 minutes ago
    Prior to Dropbox I carried a small-form-factor case back and forth to work every day because file syncing was such a train wreck.

    Seeing the original HN post was an epiphany and my quality of life before/after was forever changed.

    Yes there's been feature creep, yes there's been monetization but as a cross platform, standalone file syncing experience I've been a happy paying subscriber for nearly 19 years and counting!

  • ivraatiems8 minutes ago
    I think Dropbox is great, but I got about 10GB of storage via affiliate links ten years ago and I've never upgraded or paid a cent since. I'm sure I'm a huge loss for them.

    And even despite enjoying their service, if Google Drive produced a Windows integration that actually worked well, I'd leave for it in a minute.

    I'd never use OneDrive, but that's more out of spite at Microsoft shoving it at me than because it is bad in any way I know of clearly.

  • hylaride9 minutes ago
    Dropbox was an excellent service back in the day. Then they re-wrote their desktop apps (I think in python?) and it never synced cleanly after that.

    I'm all-in on the apple ecosystem, so while it's not perfect, iCloud storage works better. Was a shame, though.

  • ecommerceguy6 minutes ago
    call me crazy im still using a 100gb box account from when i bought an hp touchpad. that thing was so cool.
  • vednig8 minutes ago
    I wish Drew all the best for his journey, he built the market for many generations to come.
  • wwweston11 minutes ago
    Really hope that all the positives in the leadership announcement are true.

    Things have reached the point where I probably could use open sync+storage options to achieve what I do with Dropbox (and perhaps eventually I will do that as a hedge against the risks of Dropbox enshitification).

    But I'd love to see Dropbox continue to provide worthy convenient service.

  • sidcool11 minutes ago
    Is he the next Member of Technical staff at Anthropic?