98 pointsby jumploops6 hours ago117 comments
  • Kuyawa32 minutes ago
    Horrible. I don't care if it was designed by Armani in his deathbed or Jony Ive himself. It's just horrible. The flat sides, not even reminiscence of the testarossa glorious days. Worse than the tesla truck and that's in the lowest levels of design.

    Be careful not to take the Jaguar road for there is no coming back.

  • arlattimore14 minutes ago
    That is horrific, I cannot believe Ferrari put their name on it yet alone released it.
  • anonuan hour ago
    Lots of comments saying it looks ugly. I don't agree. But the $650,000 price tag is not pretty - that I can agree on. I know people will pay that.
    • etempleton38 minutes ago
      I didn’t realize it was an Ive creation. The asthetics make more sense now. It just doesn’t really make sense as a Ferrari. Ferrari makes super cars and this is kind a a run of the mill ev under the hood.

      The interior is very nice. The rest of Ferrari can hopefully borrow from this.

      • lelandfe26 minutes ago
        It looks like a BMW concept car honestly, like something I'd see at an auto show. Nothing reminds me of Ferrari.
  • bix66 hours ago
    Specs are insane but why does it look like a budget sedan with a cool paint job?

    This sounds kind of fun. It’s curious they weren’t allowed to drive though..

    > But I can say that the Torque Shift Engagement system — which gives the driver five power levels on the right paddle and five engine-braking levels on the left — is one of the most intriguing ideas I’ve seen in an electric car. It doesn’t simulate gear changes. It creates an entirely new torque language controlled by the driver, introducing an active decision-making element to trajectory management that sounds like it could restore the kind of driver engagement that many enthusiasts fear EVs have lost.

    • pclmulqdq2 hours ago
      The look is nothing less than I would expect from "make it thinner and round the corners" pioneer Jony Ive.

      I don't know why people insist on EVs being kind of ugly and boxy, but Ferrari had a chance to do better and didn't.

      • ChadNauseaman hour ago
        I think energy efficiency matters more with EVs, because it determines how frequently you have to charge on road trips, and more aerodynamic designs look a bit uglier.
    • p1necone3 hours ago
      Chasing "driver engagement" during regular driving at/below speed limit on regular public roads strikes me as a bit pointless. You're just trying to add friction to the process because there happened to be friction in the past.

      And when you're not going the speed limit on regular public roads here's plenty of "driver engagement" to be had going too fast round tight corners (hopefully on a track, but we can't all be perfect ;)) regardless of whether there's some weird obfuscation between you and the actual mostly flat torque curve of the electric engine as long you build good suspension, body stiffness, put decent tires on it, don't make it too heavy etc.

      I would love Lotus to make another road legal go-kart and slap an electric engine in it.

    • LanceJones3 hours ago
      Just 280+ mile EPA range on a 122 kwH battery. 5100 pounds. 2.5s to 60. Not insane by any standard, ICE or EV.
      • anvuong3 hours ago
        Yeah that's actually rather inefficient. Tesla Model Y has 84kWh battery and a range of 300 miles.
        • thrownthatwayan hour ago
          Does it really?
          • margalabargalaan hour ago
            No, but we're comparing the EPA ranges here, which is the point of them.
          • rootusrootusan hour ago
            Not really, no, except in narrow circumstances.
      • nradovan hour ago
        A lot of Ferraris are driven less than 280 miles per year.
        • bathtub36530 minutes ago
          They’ve historically had eye watering regular maintenance bills, even outside of them generally having a reputation for being temperamental. Maybe Ferrari will continue pioneering in their own way and make an unreliable and expensive to own EV
  • barrrraldan hour ago
    The iPhone 5C of Ferraris – and I am sure it'll have the same fate.

    It's doubly a shame because Jony actually owns one of the all-time most beautiful classic Ferraris – the 250 Europa. I was hoping they'd do a modern re-imagination and revival.

    https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/250-europa

  • WalterBrightan hour ago
    Should have had Pininfarina do the body. The best looking Ferraris are all Pininfarina.
  • jumploops18 minutes ago
    Original title called out the connection to Jony Ive, in case you’re curious why this is on HN.

    Previously it had been known that Jony Ive was working on the interior of this car, but it seems his firm is responsible for the exterior as well[0].

    > LoveFrom was given the creative freedom needed to define the design direction of the project from the outset, translating this design language into an authentic Ferrari experience.

    [0]https://www.ferrari.com/en-US/corporate/articles/ferrari-luc...

  • PedroBatista5 hours ago
    Someone inside Ferrari had the terrible idea of greenlighting this and even more terrible lack of courage to not cancel this mistake because it was the baby turd of Jony Ive and Marc Newson.

    Fortunately everyone will laugh and cringe, the usual car "journalists" will bite their tongues because they don't want to lose access, time will pass and it will be forgotten because Ferrari can afford to make these mistakes ( for now.. )

  • tbojaninan hour ago
    This cars got a face that only a mother (Jony Ive) could love. Honestly it makes a prius look visually pleasing.
    • jeffbee23 minutes ago
      The current model Prius is visually pleasing.
    • jgalt212an hour ago
      Lamborghini has been making prettier cars than Ferrari for 15+ years now. The entirety of the Ferrari line, looks-wise, is at best uninspired.
      • mauvehaus43 minutes ago
        15 years ago is about when they broke up with Pininfarina. Your opinion is probably not a coincidence.
  • oytis6 hours ago
    > Sound waves are captured from electro-mechanical vibration in the axles that are equalised, amplified and delivered alongside visual feedback to inform the driver

    In other words, they made an EV do wroom-wroom?

    • rdtsc41 minutes ago
      I can’t decide if that’s dumber than generating a fake sound or not. Kinda think it is, just because it’s more things to break and needing fixing. Also “a cricket crawled in there so now my half a million dollar Ferrari sounds like a cricket” would be a funny possibility I think.
    • hoytschermerhrn5 hours ago
      Isn’t this quite literally how a microphone works?
      • notatoadan hour ago
        Yes, but it still seems like a cool choice worth talking about. They could have made a totally fake engine noise, instead they mic’d up the axles.
      • vachinaan hour ago
        I love Ferraris trying to sound like Yutong buses.
  • freetime2an hour ago
    I feel like most Ferrari drivers are buying them as collector's items to be preserved rather than something to be driven.

    EVs, by contrast, feel more like appliances meant to be used and enjoyed. And there will always be a more advanced model coming out just around the corner.

    They've kind of hinted at the fact that this is meant to be more of an appliance than other models, with a more accesible price:

    > “We were excited about a five-seater car that was flexible, versatile and inherently luxurious,” he tells TopGear.com during an exclusive walk-round. “Of course, the price point means it’s exclusive but it’s more accessible and relevant. That’s a new paradigm, and also the biggest challenge.” He gestures to the roof-line. “Imagine how much easier our job would have been if we’d been able to pull this point down two inches.”

    Although I suspect the price will still be very much out of my range, there may well be some wealthy buyers out there who would love to have a Ferrari as a family sedan. Look at the success of the Cayenne - something that a lot of people snubbed their nose at initially. Honestly if I had the means I would be much more interested in this than any of their other cars. I'm definitely in the cars-are-meant-to-be-driven camp.

    Edit: oh the estimated price is $640k. Yeah I don't think it will sell well at that price - though I also don't pretend to understand the market for super cars or the motivations of super car buyers.

    • dcl16 minutes ago
      Ferrari uses cars like this to test loyalty. If you want to get 'on the list' buying cars like this is one of the ways to do it, especially if you haven't spent considerable $ with them before.
  • dvt6 hours ago
    Somehow managed to make a Ferrari look as cheap as a Tesla (inside and out).
    • dingdingdang6 hours ago
      Worse in my opinion since the look is simply Tesla (whether one likes that or not), no one would have blinked an eyelid if Tesla released this car whereas Ferrari doing so comes off incoherent.
  • karakoram6 hours ago
    I don't like it at all. The curves, the silhouette, does not work at all, it does not "speak" to me as a Ferrari.

    Again, a heritage brand ruined by an obnoxious, pesky iPad like display that has no business being in a Ferrari.

    The front profile is hideous too.

    • throwme_1233 hours ago
      On top of this, it's 5x more expensive than a Xiaomi SU7 Ultra... which may be the better car regardless of price.
      • nullpoint4202 hours ago
        Man, I wish they sold this car in the states… I’d buy one instantly.
    • osigurdson6 hours ago
      I thought the interior looked pretty nice - lots of retro physical switches, etc. The exterior doesn't look like a normal Ferrari but maybe that's on purpose. A "normal" Ferrari buyer would probably buy a normal Ferrari. Maybe this is more for someone who would have bought a Model S or X in the past but has a lot more money to shell out.
    • jasonwatkinspdx6 hours ago
      Yeah, if this was coming from say Honda at a sub $100k price I'd think something like "eh, not for me but it's neat Honda is willing to do something kinda fun and odd."

      But starting at $600k for that?

      It's clear they'd like to have a Lamborghini Urus like sales success that's not exactly a traditional style Ferrari but this thing seems like a total miss.

      But Ferrari being who they are they'll do the same scummy crap of making dealers and customers buy the turd if they wanna get an allocation for the next highly collectable supercar.

    • VerifiedReports3 hours ago
      The doors are dumb as hell. So I guess the front and back people have to take turns, because only one can squeeze through that gap?

      Presumably the range is only a few KM, since Ive said, "You don't want a bigger battery."

      And after ruining Apple's computers for years with his POS keyboard and embarrassing emoji bar, he's all about "tactile controls" now? Or was that the will of someone who ISN'T just a pompous hack?

      Oh wait: Someone pointed out that there are KNOBS on the steering wheel. So there are wheels on a wheel. That has Ive all over it.

      • pclmulqdq2 hours ago
        Ferrari doors are always this bad. If you regularly transport more than 2 people in your Ferrari, you aren't their target market.
      • diabllicseagull3 hours ago
        I guess Ferrari always preferred form-over-function to some extent. It was never the utilitarian's car but now you can't even get in a four door car at the same time. I'm really at a loss.
      • anvuong3 hours ago
        On the battery size, 122kWh is actually pretty large for this size. Most Teslas have <100kWh batteries and they all have better or similar range.
        • dborehaman hour ago
          Measured in Elon miles though.
          • LanceJones21 minutes ago
            My 2024 Model 3 Performance regularly sees its EPA rated range.
    • sokoloff3 hours ago
      Looks like a Polestar and Corvette had a child.
    • za_creature6 hours ago
      Introducing the new

      iFerrari XS

      It's 140% better than the previous Ferrari Enzo

      And 20% thinner

      With a brand new Magnesium case

      It's the fastest Ferrari we've ever built.

      • sgt6 hours ago
        Nothing like the dull, beige boxes with wheels of the competition.
      • VerifiedReports3 hours ago
        Fine print:

        Range up to 10 Km.

    • analogpixel6 hours ago
      thanks for putting into words what I was thinking as I was scrolling down the page.
      • windexh8er2 hours ago
        I honestly thought it was some sort of hideous joke. Growing up as a kid having been obsessed with supercars this to me looks like someone let Elon mash up a Model Y and a classic '96 355 using Grok. Looks pretty disgusting as someone who has followed car brands for decades.
    • Fire-Dragon-DoL5 hours ago
      I love the EV idea, but the exterior design is terrible
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  • sailfastan hour ago
    This looks really good in that Blue color when the light is just right.

    Otherwise, I think this car has a lot of excellent new tech in a package that just won't get the motor(s) firing for most people - especially at a 650K price point.

    It's a shame they couldn't figure out a way to make the shape look a bit more sporting. Who cares about practicality when you're driving a ferrari?

  • jraines5 hours ago
    I’m a big fan of the interior & Ive design (and am not always a fan if his). The exterior is pretty cool from the front and back … but from the side and at angles it just doesn’t register as Ferrari at ALL. Seems to scream for a longer wheelbase but that’s not the whole issue. It just looks very mid-market from those angles.
    • jonwinstanley4 hours ago
      Agreed. But by the description it sounds like it has very long wheels base.
      • jraines3 hours ago
        I figured as much given they were comparing it to the Purosangue. Unfortunate that the proportions just make it, idk, horizontally squat looking.
    • bryanlarsen2 hours ago
      The massive 24" wheels make the car seem shorter in pictures.
  • brian-armstrong4 hours ago
    Yikes. That's a car that looks like it gets its lunch money taken by the other cars.
  • drfloyd515 hours ago
    The gas engine Farraris are a pinnacle of design for an engine, gas tank, drive train, and human occupant.

    It would have been trivial for Ferrari to just make their classic style but now, electric! And it would have been full of compromise.

    Ferrari has made, in their opinion, the best design for the constraints and challenges of an Electric Vehicle. 4 motors, battery, human.

    Good for them for putting real effort into it. And not just making a cash grab.

    • throwaway858254 hours ago
      The 'best' is the best given the constraints. Constraints for EV are different so the best should be different, not the same but EV.
  • kayo_202110306 hours ago
    "Sir" Jony Ive? Sure fine, recognized by the crown and all that. It looks like a Kia. Don't get me wrong, I like Kia's. If Ive was a lollipop he'd lick himself. When you get to a point that you can no longer do seminal & groundbreaking work, and you continue to cling to what you used to be, just stop; even if only in respect to the good stuff you've done already.
    • 6stringmerc6 hours ago
      Ahem, there is a new Rolling Stones album slated for release in 2026. I most definitely agree with you by the way.
      • kayo_202110305 hours ago
        lol. Emotional Rescue was when I stopped listening, but I hope that Keith and Mick live forever, even as statistical outliers. I love folks that win the life lottery. It's a hope for all of us.
  • purpleideaan hour ago
    I want a fully open source car. That's luxury!
  • etempletonan hour ago
    This is a very strange car for Ferrari to make. What people expected is a Rimac and instead they get a fancy electric Prius.

    Maybe it is really a functional prototype, but Ferrari as a company does strange things. They live off of their name brand, but they make buying and owning their cars a pain and frankly I don’t think they are very high quality compared to what other car makers in their price point are doing.

  • skhameneh5 hours ago
    What is the target demographic? The specs seem... nice. Nothing particularly special compared to the likes of Lucid, etc.

    The design though, it seems very... uninspired? It has hints of throwback in the design, but imo it does not have the look of luxury or sports car.

    • addandsubtract5 hours ago
      The target demographic seems to be people wanting to buy a future Ferrari.
      • dclan hour ago
        This. If you want to get on the list to buy the new supercars, you're going to have to start here. And you better add some expensive options.
    • ebbi2 hours ago
      Seems more like an accessory Ferrari for those that already own a gas-powered one. Looks like it may attract those that value a different design direction - not hardcore sports, more a leisurely weekend vehicle - that is still a Ferrari.

      Really hard to grasp who would want one (I'm too far down the wealth ladder to understand how the rich think and work), but that's what stood out to me initially.

    • dzhiurgis4 hours ago
      Inspiration is inside, so I'd say it's for people who want practicality + badge.

      I'm glad more and more manufacturers care more than exterior looks, but focus on interior, esp on technology side.

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  • frogperson5 hours ago
    Looks luke a cheap electric knockoff in some low budget racing game. It does not look like a ferrari at all.
    • dzhiurgis4 hours ago
      I don't love it either, but that's the whole point I think. Try to pull off an icon, rather than make existing designs works. Cybertruck did it, same with Jaguar.

      Ultimately the probably should've gone with SUV tho - it's what people buy and looking at interior it what should've been - mass produced, luxury, performance car for everyone.

      p.s. Car ethusiasts suck and nobody should listen to them. All they want is v8 manual from 80s with all the "character" which means it's impractical, unreliable and just terrible in every possible way, except the looks which you know what sort of buyer appeals to.

      • crowcroftan hour ago
        Cybertruck and Jaguar have not been sucessful.

        Luxury car makers should look to handbags for inspiration. If Ferrari wants to expand the market and reach new customers they shouldn't be making something that looks like an upbadged BYD.

        It's like if Hermes started making a Jansport backpack, absurd. Instead they sell lower cost, but still premium designs like the Picotin. The Lamborghini Urus might be one example.

      • _carbyau_3 hours ago
        > p.s. Car ethusiasts suck and nobody should listen to them. All they want is v8 manual from 80s with all the "character"

        I was generally with you until those lines.

        Car enthusiasts are as varied as cars themselves. Whether it's F1 lovers or the V8 manual lovers (an experience to appreciate but I didn't care to own), the MX5(Miata) lovers, the offroad lovers or the lovers of classics like VW Beetles and Mini's or more esoteric cars.

        There are dreamers who read the latest car magazine and fantasize about the latest Porsche, Ferrari or Mercedes S class.

        Everyone has an opinion and unsurprisingly electric vehicles are a hot topic right now. You will get a range of both rational and emotional responses, depending on whom you speak to.

        To derisively state "they suck and nobody should listen to them" is unreasonable.

      • avalys3 hours ago
        The Cybertruck and Jaguar rebrand are both complete flops.

        Interesting product advice you have to offer. Who do you think is the target market for expensive Italian sports cars, if not “car enthusiasts”?

      • bluedevil2k3 hours ago
        > same with Jaguar

        The Jaguar redesign / rebrand has been a complete and utter disaster! A 97% drop in European sales. That’s not a misprint - 97%!!

        No one would call the cybertruck a success either.

        This design is a massive mistake for Ferrari. Looks at Porsche’s first electric, the Taycan. I can tell it’s a Porsche as soon as I see it. Look at Lamborghini- looks like a Lambo. Look at this car - looks like a Volkswagen. This is going to be a bomb.

        • dzhiurgis2 hours ago
          > A 97% drop in European sales

          Car hasn't even been released.

          You can't argue Cybertruck isn't an icon. IIRC it's in top 10 for notoriously critical Doug Demuro.

  • gherkinnn6 hours ago
    How very unexciting. Works for laptops, Ive should stick to that.

    Compare that to the next car on the list, now that's thrilling.

    https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/849-testarossa

    • kvuj5 hours ago
      My god that V8 sounds terrible. From a company that made countless howling V12s, it's quite disappointing.

      Emission regulations I'm guessing.

    • VerifiedReports3 hours ago
      Except Ive famously ruined Apple's laptops for the better part of a decade.
  • 866-RON-0-FEZ4 hours ago
    Ive is an overrated plonker and my first reaction is to wonder if all the serviceable components are glued in place.

    Do you know why no one has ever put rotating switches on a steering wheel face before? Because it requires two fingers to operate the switches and thus taking your entire hand off the wheel. Those knobs and switches might as well be in the center console because it takes a similar amount of effort and diversion of attention to operate.

    This looks like a car designed by someone who's never driven before. Did the early prototypes feature bubble domes before they were forced to tell Ive that won't work?

    • PaulWaldman2 hours ago
      Porsche has a similar steering wheel mounted rotary switch. Traditionally it was on models optioned with the Sport Chrono package. They recently rolled it out to all new models over the past few years.

      https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/press-kits/taycan/Die-Driver...

    • samdixonan hour ago
      Knobs on wheel, especially for the controls on this, are normal in performance vehicles.
    • kart232 hours ago
      This comment sounds like someone whos never driven manual before
    • sorenjanan hour ago
      Ferrari has had their manettino dial on the steering wheel since the F430 in 2004.
    • impish92082 hours ago
      > Do you know why no one has ever put rotating switches on a steering wheel face before? Because it requires two fingers to operate the switches and thus taking your entire hand off the wheel.

      I hate this car as much you do, it looks like a vape cartridge on wheels to me. That being said, there are F1 cars with rotating knobs on the steering wheel. Different category and all, but still worth it to point out.

    • VerifiedReports3 hours ago
      Wow I didn't see that. Standard Ive incompetence.

      It's galling to see pompous, no-talent douchebags like Ive continually held out as some kind of innovator.

      • nntwozz3 hours ago
        Ive was great when Steve was there to tell him no.
  • babelfish6 hours ago
    Looks like the BMW i3 met a Magic Mouse
    • sgt6 hours ago
      Love it. Although I can't help to think you'll need to flip it around to charge.
  • hnlmorg5 hours ago
    I suspect this car is more aimed at people who want a Tesla with a sports car badge rather than people who want a sports car. And I think that’s why most on here don’t like it.

    For the vast majority of people, a Ferrari is something aspirational. But for those who can afford one but would rather have “normal” car, this might appeal. It has the form of something practical while still signalling wealth.

    Before now, that generally meant those equally-ugly but for different reasons 4-wheel drive and SUVs.

    If you view this as (for example) something for rich mums to take their kids to school in, then it makes a lot more sense.

    At least that’s the demographic I think they’re quietly going after.

    • dmixan hour ago
      > If you view this as (for example) something for rich mums to take their kids to school in, then it makes a lot more sense.

      That’s why Porsche makes their SUVs which are really popular.

      High end luxury brands should technically be able to serve both upper-middle and top end at the same time. The important thing is the products are good. And if they aren’t some Chinese or other brand will do it. The age of choosing between a couple 100yr old car companies might be ending soon.

    • throwaway858254 hours ago
      A tesla is a hedge against oil prices, a Ferrari obviously isn't.
  • KeplerBoy6 hours ago
    This style might have worked as an apple car. It sure as hell doesn't work as a Ferrari.
  • sorenjanan hour ago
    The Polestar 6 is a much better looking electric sportscar IMO, although that's mostly a concept car at the moment.
  • hnthrow02873456 hours ago
    That's heinous. Their firm should stay away from sports car brands.
  • KeplerBoy6 hours ago
    Interesting fact from the page: "The lowest drag coefficient in Ferrari history, achieved through aero-styling convergence, active air shutters, and ride-height logic that lowers the front by 10 mm even while cruising"

    I guess not having large air intakes and generally a slightly larger frontal area helps with that (the coefficient of drag is always multiplied by the area, so this might not be the most aero Ferrari ever, that's a different claim).

    • ncr1004 hours ago
      All worthwhile points.

      A less worthwhile point: Especially especially low drag, when people don't drive it.

      • testfoobar23 minutes ago
        Ha ha. I can't imagine any Ferrari dealer would want this on their lot.
    • throwaway858254 hours ago
      The painted parts are just for show.
  • clickety_clackan hour ago
    Would be really awesome if you could fit 3 child seats in the back.
  • quaddoggy2 hours ago
    The interior isn't offensive, but don't the dashboard air vents appear to kind of bolted on? Like, maybe they are super functional? But they look like an afterthought aesthetically.
  • pryelluw4 hours ago
    Looks like a melted down Pontiac Aztec. Though, I don’t see Walter White forking over money for it.
  • skyberrys6 hours ago
    At first I thought it was a Ferrari custom built for Jony Ive made just to his specifications. But once I saw the first image I could easily understand it was designed by him. It's a talent to be an industrial designer with such a clean recognizable style that it's like a signature, easily recognizable as to who it belongs to.
    • jasonwatkinspdx6 hours ago
      Yes, Ive's style is very recognizable as Dieter Rams design principles and language with brighter colors.
      • notnullorvoid2 hours ago
        Ive's style may be inspired by Dieter Rams, but he ultimately fails to emulate it in any positive way.

        Ive's work is bubbly symmetric bland crap.

  • cromka5 hours ago
    Cars like this is why restomods are getting big
  • carlos-menezes6 hours ago
    That's the least Ferrari looking Ferrari I have ever seen.
  • iknownthing6 hours ago
    Well that doesn't look like a Ferrari
  • MrGilbert3 hours ago
    I read the comments before visiting the website. After the page loaded I was like: "Well, the silhouette from above and the color looks neat!"

    I scrolled further and saw the front of the car, and now I get what the comments meant. Holy moly. That‘s worse than the Jaguar rebrand on my scale.

  • kulor6 hours ago
    Kudos to Ferrari trying to stay modern with a collab with one of the best industrial designers of the moment. But this feels antithetical to Ferrari, it's bland and utilitarian where they should be channeling flair and evocative designs.
  • topspin4 hours ago
    You could stick a Door Dash car topper on the roof and few people would pick up on the joke. So the entire point of Ferrari is lost in this exterior design. Where are the wings and strakes and diffusers? It has a few holes, but sans that it's a slightly more swoopy two-tone Model 3.
  • skeptrune6 hours ago
    I really appreciate how "Jony Ive" this looks. Feels like they absolutely nailed the style.

    I personally feel like it looks like a disposable tech hardware product, but to each their own. I'm sure a lot of people will love it.

  • avalys3 hours ago
    This would have a chance as a $250k entry-level Ferrari. Not much of a chance, but a chance. At $600k? Crazy.

    You could buy a V12 Ferrari at that price, if a Ferrari is what you want. Or a Rolls Royce Spectre if you want something quiet and luxurious.

  • ncr1004 hours ago
    IDK about you, I keep imagining the horn when I see the outside: like Beaker from Dr Honeydew's laboratory in The Muppets,

    "Hmeep!"

    Ferrari horns are in my opinion legendary wonderful toots. And I'm troubled that this car offers very little "Ferrari" while sitting atop its brand.

  • t1234s2 hours ago
    I try to imagine the Ferrari badges as apple logos and the car all of a sudden makes sense.
  • iainctduncan5 hours ago
    Nice to see that, after all these years, "car commercial techno" is still a thing.

    Man, I miss the 90's. Best decade for electronic music ever.

    • bdangubic5 hours ago
      to this day, I play 90’s EDM almost exclusively while working
  • reaperhulk6 hours ago
    Discussed 3 months ago as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46949642
  • mdotkan hour ago
    Nissan Leaf with a hideous bodykit
  • manyatoms5 hours ago
    Why couldn't they have made it look like a normal Ferrari.

    It's just a powertrain change why mess up all the styling.

    • smackeyacky5 hours ago
      It’s a five seat nearly SUV despite Ferrari claiming it isn’t. It makes fake noises in sports mode like the other EVs, it seems to have only two features that come from Ferrari and that’s the quad rear lights and the yellow badge.

      I’m not the target market for this and never will be but nobody is going to make a poster of that for a teenagers bedroom. Yuck.

      • toyg4 hours ago
        > It's a five seat nearly SUV

        I think that's the key. This is meant to go up against the Lamborghini SUV and its ilk: a vehicle for the very wealthy who don't really like cars but have to mark their status in everyday interactions. It will sell well.

      • dzhiurgis4 hours ago
        > nobody is going to make a poster of that for a teenagers bedroom

        Do people still do this tho?

  • throwaway858254 hours ago
    Ugly as sin.
  • Kon5ole4 hours ago
    Seems to me Porsche or Audi would have been better choices for Ive’s designs.

    Then again the uproar might be the point of the experiment.

    Edit: As an electric Ferrari family car it’s not too bad imo. Making it look like a mid-engine v12 would be silly, since it’s not that.

  • dcl4 hours ago
    This is the car you will need to buy to get on the list to buy the Ferrari you kind of want - but not the Ferrari you really, really want, that will cost you a lot more.
  • Zigurd5 hours ago
    If the battery is under the passenger compartment, you're pretty much stuck with a sedan-derived coupe look. The performance better be super ultra special, otherwise Ferrari had no need to make a car that looks like that.
  • t1234s2 hours ago
    The value of everyone manual F430 just went up a bit more.
  • 9front4 hours ago
    Jony Ive design philosophy of "thin and with round corners" can be seen in the Ferrari Luce. The car looks like an iPhone.
  • flokie6 hours ago
    love the interior, not sure how i feel about that front end however. "The lowest drag coefficient in Ferrari history" is not what i would have guessed just seeing the picture alone, so props to them on making this possible!
    • eps6 hours ago
      Kinda telling that the video doesn't show the front up to the very last moment.

      I'm pretty sure they realize perfectly well how ugly it is.

  • LetMeLogin5 hours ago
    Cleo Abrams dropped an interview with the creators:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-o0r2zSgCE

  • notnullorvoid2 hours ago
    I'm surprised we still let Jony Ive design anything.
  • dtagames5 hours ago
    It's lovely and I bet they sell every one they build.
  • cfiggers3 hours ago
    This almost couldn't be less "Ferrari." Really baffling.
  • user43267820 minutes ago
    Hate to say but this was in one of the Simpson’s episode
  • basseed6 hours ago
    I wonder if some of the design is related to the car that Apple was designing, if Apple released an EV this is pretty much what I would have expected it to look like
  • hnburnsy4 hours ago
    It is 2026 cars don't need start buttons, physical keys, or giant round air vents
    • general146518 minutes ago
      If you like to show your car off once a month to friends, then sure.

      But practically,

      > start buttons

      What is a difference from switch on button on laptop? How do you tell the car, that you are ready to drive?

      > physical keys

      So when your phone will not be working, are you walking home? I like physical keys because it does not create dependency on single artifact and thus single point of failure.

    • dzhiurgis2 hours ago
      Agree on first two, but vents on my Tesla kinda blow. Too weak where it needs to work (my face) and too strong where it shouldn't (stray wind on my knees).
  • sgt6 hours ago
    "The lights gently recede when switched off, perserving the purity of the form."

    This is totally impossible to read without hearing it in Ive's soothing voice.

  • browningstreet3 hours ago
    Dumb looking, Back to the Future inspired, toy design.
  • spprashant3 hours ago
    Have we perhaps hyped Jony Ive a little too much?
  • zhainya2 hours ago
    This is heartbreaking. Just awful.
  • sgt6 hours ago
    Cool, it has suicide doors like the BMW i3 (a legendary concept car that escaped into the wild, and caused BMW to lose a lot of money)
    • OptionOfT6 hours ago
      Sad that the i3 concept didn't take off, I loved it, together with the i8 (if only that one had a larger engine...)

      Interestingly enough the i3 and i8's carbon structure helped the G11 & G12 (short and long wheelbase BMW 7), the G14/G15/G16 (BMW 8 series) and the F91/F92/F93 (BMW M8) shed a lot of weight.

      But for the newer version of the 7 series don't use that structure anymore, as the weight savings are nullified by the battery pack.

    • jasonwatkinspdx6 hours ago
      My friends had a first gen i3. They didn't like the styling but it was super practical for them as a car.
  • LanceJones3 hours ago
    $1.2M in Canada after provincial and federal luxury sales taxes. For a 5100 pound, sub-300 mile range, mid-performer with 23/24" wheels. All those louvres, ducts, and aerodynamics for a terribly inefficient EV. Disappointing. (edited because i had $1.1M as the final price)
  • ZiiS6 hours ago
    If the brief was to make an ipad stuck to the dash of a Ferrari not ruin the rest of the car then that is certainly one way to do it.
  • magiclaw5 hours ago
    Love the interior. Hate the exterior.
  • coolgoose5 hours ago
    The front looks like a vacuum cleaner
  • jakeinspace6 hours ago
    This sucks
  • tail_exchange5 hours ago
    Maybe I just have a bad taste for cars, but this looks awful. Uninspiring. Looks like a Tesla with a Ferrari logo.

    Edit: I do love the analog buttons in the interior though. I despise those big screens with all the controls, and no tactile feedback.

    • sonofhans5 hours ago
      My kid, way into cars, says it looks like a cheap Camaro from the future.
    • addandsubtract4 hours ago
      Teslas look better than this. It looks like a Prius with a Ferrari logo.
    • Izikiel435 hours ago
      > Looks like a Tesla with a Ferrari logo.

      Just saw it and wow, that's an accurate description. Gone is everything that makes a Ferrari a Ferrari

  • Grazester5 hours ago
    Ferrari done lost their mind! If you told me this was a Kia I would have said it was ugly for a Kia.
  • vanh4lt40 minutes ago
    Is it just me, or does this look like Jaguar's self-inflicted brand damage?
  • OptionOfT6 hours ago
    > The lights gently recede when switched off, perserving the purity of the form

    Typo on the Ferrari website...

  • jcmontx3 hours ago
    Enzo is rolling on his grave
  • voidfunc16 minutes ago
    Looks like shit.
  • whatever13 hours ago
    The Ferrari e-Multipla!

    Unbelievably ugly stance.

  • m0nit0r5 hours ago
    I reall don't know if I like this or not.
  • wheelhead6 hours ago
    This is somehow even worse than the swatch/AP collab.
  • amoss6 hours ago
    That is the ugliest Ferrari I've ever seen.
  • KellyCriterion6 hours ago
    Attention: AUTO-playing videos+sound when visiting
  • brrrrrm6 hours ago
    it has paddle shifters - what are those for?
  • antinomicus6 hours ago
    What market exists that would buy this car??
  • jebarker6 hours ago
    Imagine being able to afford a Ferrari and then buying the one that looks like a fancy Prius
  • ruckfool6 hours ago
    Looks like an expensive Prius .. :(
  • tomaspiaggio126 hours ago
    458/488 was peak ferrari IMO
  • mixtureoftakesan hour ago
    insane levels of slop, so bad it almost feels intentional
  • wat100006 hours ago
    It looks like an Apple Magic Mouse with wheels. Hopefully it also has a charge port on the bottom.
    • throw3108226 hours ago
      And you need to turn it upside down to charge it?
  • EugeneOZ6 hours ago
    Doesn't look like a sport car. From above it actually looks like a phone. The main thing is that the charging port isn’t on the bottom.
  • jauntywundrkind6 hours ago
    Four wheel steering, active suspension, low center of gravity, 1050 HP...

    The display & controls do look very nice!

    I love how they found a way to make the sound provide real feedback. I wonder if the cabin gets feedback faster than the speed of sound in air would travel, that would be neat. I'm skeptical they kept the loop fast enough to beat speed of sound in metal though (5000~6000 m/s for steel).

    > The Luce’s sound system doesn’t generate artificial noise. Instead, a precision accelerometer mounted at the center of the rear axle captures the actual vibration of the rotating electric components. That signal is then filtered, equalized, and amplified — essentially working like an electric guitar’s amplifier. The result is a sound that’s rooted in the real physics of the machinery, not synthesized from a speaker library.

    https://electrek.co/2026/05/25/ferrari-luce-first-electric-f...

    • KeplerBoy6 hours ago
      Interesting idea, but ultimately not going to happen (or matter). I doubt the latency in that DSP Pipeline is below a millisecond, heck given the state of non-critical automotive Software it might a second.
    • somebehemoth6 hours ago
      As a lifelong fan of Ferrari, I find both the interior and exterior hideous.
  • inshard4 hours ago
    Those rear tail lights don’t sit right with me. I know there’s probably some aerodynamic reason behind it but Jony, those aren’t the proportions that just work. Steve wouldn’t approve this. And I feel Jony was always partly Steve when Jony was at his best.That said the issue is the asymmetric black negative space below and above the red circles. This is mostly fixed if you get the Luce in black or very dark gray.
  • sethops13 hours ago
    This is the ugliest car I've ever seen, and that includes the Cybertruck. I do like the retro modern interior though.
  • lnenad5 hours ago
    I hate 20 inch, floating, glued to the dash tablets with such a passion. It cannot be such a huge monetary difference to have physical switches for the AC compared to this attention grabbing accident causing contraption that was never meant to be put in a human commandeered vehicle.
    • sonofhans5 hours ago
      Yes, preach it! But … I think in fact it does make a huge difference economically. I don’t know what the bill of materials is, but imagine the difference between wiring into place (a) a touch screen, or (b) 40 physical controls.

      I believe another motivation for manufacturers is that they can turn the car’s UI into a software problem, which from a human-centered design perspective means that they can throw it in the trash and never spend a dime on it.

      • mtrovo5 hours ago
        We're talking about a 400k dollars car, maybe they could find a way to add this expense into the design.
        • sonofhans4 hours ago
          Ferrari clearly aren’t doing it to save costs. I don’t think they’re doing it for principled driver-centered reasons, either, but more because the market expects it. Cars are appliances, and appliances are generally built to be sold (i.e., to look good) rather than to be used. Microwaves, washers, cars — the same for all of them.

          The design exterior looks glued together from more interesting electric cars, so no surprise the interior does too.

          EDIT: I just learned that Jony Ive did the interior. Further proof that without Steve Jobs goading him, Ive is just a stylist.

    • wlkr5 hours ago
      I also hate crappy car tablets. For context, though, according to the Ferrari CEO, they are 50% cheaper [0]. I'm not convinced that should matter on a premium badge car (or any car, given safety concerns), but that's for Ferrari's customers to decide.

      [0]: https://www.thedrive.com/news/touch-controls-are-50-cheaper-...

  • ernsheong2 hours ago
    Took OpenAI's money and is now designing cars, lol
  • johnfink86 hours ago
    It looks like something a villainous billionaire would drive in a sci-fi dystopia. And not in a good way.
  • lossolo5 hours ago
    It looks like a budget car, not an exotic supercar.
  • cmrdporcupine5 hours ago
    $600k and they still won't give you physical climate controls.

    Parsimonious product design with IMHO out of date conception of what's "cool". I think Ive is pretty washed up at this point.

    • Geee4 hours ago
      The climate controls are physical knobs: https://youtu.be/6Reu1WS3BhM?t=611
      • cmrdporcupine4 hours ago
        I mean it's neat but looks sorta.. halfway physical... still requires you to take your focus off the road and look at the touchscreen to know what you're changing and what the setting is.

        I don't think that really solves much?

        • Geee3 hours ago
          There's also the metal handle to rest your hand on, which also acts as a target which you can find blindly, and from there you can find the correct knob by touch. You'll just have to remember the the third knob is the fan speed and so on. I imagine that you can use it without looking, and it seems to be designed that way. Also I'm pretty sure that the UI is replicated on the display behind the wheel so you don't have to look to see the numbers.
          • cmrdporcupine2 hours ago
            That's not terrible then I guess. Hopefully this makes it downmarket and "luxury" vehicles stop fetishizing touchscreen everything.
  • fragmede5 hours ago
    Why do suicide doors if you have to have that B pillar?
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  • 6stringmerc6 hours ago
    Oh wow, it’s even worse than I imagined based on those early images of the PlaySkool cockpit renderings!

    The body lines? What body lines? I’m a vocal critic of derivative design, but this space egg usually is little more than a Junior Study drawing at best. It’s so bland it might as well be still made of clay.

    I’m not being unfairly harsh here, there’s a huge tradition of sorting a car’s emotional response - yes, Countach being a prime case study - but I get more “This is interesting” from the latest Prius than anything with this design, in parts or taken as a whole. I can’t be alone, and I suppose the reactions will be savage. I am kind of giddy thinking about what some of the more crude phrasings might be from the likes of Clarkson or Harris.

    This is a design for the Super Yacht club. If it was a concept car for a Chinese knock off of a Honda, it would be rightly panned at first sight. Was it designed on a first generation Macintosh?

    It has no character whatsoever. The interior looks like patio furniture intended for a retirement home. To call it a failure is not quite right, because sometimes things like the Pontiac Aztek have coherent thought and risks involved. This has none of those things. Mayo on white bread with a glass of room temperature tap water.

    In a strange way I love it because it might as well be called the Ferrari Hubris. Just…wow…

  • ktallett6 hours ago
    It would be a great looking Hyundai but it is a dreadful looking Ferrari. The cost of such a car will be far higher than it deserves. Ferrari for me is synonymous with genuinely beautiful curvaceous cars that have a gorgeous, slightly old looking interior. This is not it, nor is it take Ferrari into the modern day.
  • sinsterizme6 hours ago
    Wow, this looks atrocious. I was thinking this was perhaps a budget model by its appearance, but then I looked up the retail price…
  • senectus13 hours ago
    the ferrariphone
  • docheinestages3 hours ago
    Terrible design.
  • ardit335 hours ago
    LMAO, this thing is so ugly. It looks like a generic Chinese EV. Interior looks good, but the exterior is just a boat. 5.05m long, 2m wide, 5000lbs heavy. Looks like a mix of the Jag Epace and the Mustang EV/Mache

    Can't believe they are asking 600k for this thing.

    It is almost like Ferrari is trying to punk its customers.

    Ps. Everyone is hating it on FerrariChat

  • saaaaaam6 hours ago
    This would have been an AMAZING Volvo. Sadly, it’s a very disappointing Ferrari.
  • IAmGraydon3 hours ago
    Is Ferrari serious with this? Are they trying to commit brand suicide? What in the world is going on with all of these large companies doing the absolute stupidest possible thing lately?
  • riccardomc6 hours ago
    mamma mia...
  • objektifan hour ago
    I once asked HN why EVs look funky and many people responded with “oohh no they don’t what are you talking about”. Tell me now if this looks weird or not.
    • JJMcJan hour ago
      If they look like regular cars, then the owners don't get the special feeling when people see their car.
  • coolgoose6 hours ago
    Is this a joke ? It looks beyond crap.
  • slinkydeveloper6 hours ago
    Wow they went all-in creating a car for silicon valley tech bros...

    Even the color they chose for the reveal speaks to me like "rich luxury car without personality"

  • senectus13 hours ago
    where are the specs for this FerrariPhone?

    the phone screen shots show a pathetic 270km range...

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