Nordstjernen Web Browser(github.com)
21 pointsby roschdal5 hours ago4 comments
  • lewisjoe4 hours ago
    Honest question: How can an entire html/CSS layout engine fit in a single layout.c that I can read over an afternoon? This looks too simple to be usable for serious work.
  • maxloh4 hours ago
    > Source-available under the Functional Source License v1.1 (FSL-1.1-MIT). Free for any non-competing use; converts to the MIT license on the tenth anniversary of each release. See LICENSE.

    You should not use the FSL name if you change the date of the license switch, which is originally set to the second anniversary. If you want to change that duration, you should use a different name to avoid confusion.

    Sentry intended for the FSL to be specific rather than general. The company's Deputy General Counsel stated:

    > TLDR, FSL is narrow in scope for a reason.

    > You're free to create your own license based on the FSL with AGPL as the change license if you rename it so that it isn't confusingly similar.

    https://github.com/getsentry/fsl.software/issues/53#issuecom...

    • roschdal3 hours ago
      Yes, I might change this back to 2 years, I am still thinking about the right balance between a free web browser and a commercial software product which will generate revenue.
  • tuwtuwtuwtuw4 hours ago
    What could go wrong.
  • roschdal4 hours ago
    I am making this web browser. Ask me anything. Bug report welcome.
    • thisislife2an hour ago
      Good effort! Did you consider using Netsurf codebase ( https://www.netsurf-browser.org/ ) or contributing to it? (The website is outdated but the development is ongoing and active).
    • lewisjoe4 hours ago
      Congrats on the journey. How did you implement the layouting engine? And how much of an effort did it take?
    • fcpguru4 hours ago
      why not join up with https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird ?
      • roschdal3 hours ago
        Nordstjernen is a ~30 kLOC solo-built C browser aimed at being a small, hardened web reader for the text-heavy web, while Ladybird is a ~500 kLOC funded C++ project aiming to be a fully standards-compliant third browser engine alongside Blink, WebKit, and Gecko.
        • fcpguru3 hours ago
          ok good answer. next q: why not team up with https://github.com/lightpanda-io/browser and zig and make this both the small headless browser + a human one
          • roschdal2 hours ago
            Nordstjernen is a small, sandboxed, JIT-free GTK browser for humans to read the web; Lightpanda is a Zig-based headless V8 browser for AI agents to script it.
    • tuwtuwtuwtuw4 hours ago
      It looks like AI slop. Is it AI slop?
      • flustercan4 hours ago
        Are you asking the author to validate your own opinion? Why don't you explain why you think its slop and provide some evidence to back up your assertions and we can have a real discussion.
        • tuwtuwtuwtuw3 hours ago
          No, I am asking the author whether it's AI slop.

          As for evidence, sir, this is a wendys.

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      • drabbiticusan hour ago
        slop is such a poorly defined term that it's very hard to answer your question meaningfully. Is all code generated by AI slop? Many different opinions on this and questions to be answered as LLMs continue to shift the programming landscape.

        Having said that, you could have just clicked the link and found https://github.com/nordstjernen-web/nordstjernen/commits/mai... with a bunch of commits by claude. It took longer to write this than it took to figure out whether AI was used.