91 pointsby thm3 hours ago19 comments
  • WaxProlix2 hours ago
    What we're doing to the Cuban people with this blockade is criminal. I don't expect to see justice in my lifetime. What a miserable state of affairs.
    • Manuel_D2 hours ago
      The US is not enforcing a blockade, it's an embargo. The US and other countries are refusing to trade with Cuba, but plenty of other countries can and do trade with Cuba. Cuba is not entitled to trade with the US.

      A blockade is when a country stops traffic, from entering a country's ports. It's an act of war, and a totally different thing from an embargo.

      • elmomle2 hours ago
        The US has been seizing fuel shipments en route to Cuba. What do you call that, if not a blockade?
        • Manuel_D2 hours ago
          They have been boarding ships that fly false flags. That is, they claim to be flying under the flag of some country. But when the US contacts that country to confirm that the ship is really registered there, the government of that country replies that the ship is not, in fact, registered. This is legal to do regardless of the embargo against Cuba.

          There are plenty of ships that move good and resources to Cuba that don't get boarded.

          • RobertoG2 hours ago
            Your comment makes it look like is a police action instead of interfering in the business of third countries in international waters, with the express goal of causing economic pain.
            • Manuel_Dan hour ago
              The two are not mutually exclusive: The US embargo is done with the goal of economically hampering Cuba. The ships that try to skirt their home countries' participation in the embargo by flying false flags are being subject to police action.
          • mirzap2 hours ago
            I’m curious how it’s legal to size a ship in international waters under any circumstances? We have a word for that - piracy.
            • voxic11an hour ago
              Basically stateless ships don't have any international legal protections in international waters (at least according to the US's interpretation of the law).

              By the plain text of international law a state cannot commit piracy since piracy specifically only applies to private actors.

              > Piracy consists of any of the following acts: (a) any illegal acts of violence or detention, or any act of depredation, committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or a private aircraft...

              https://www.un.org/depts/los/piracy/piracy_legal_framework.h...

            • Manuel_Dan hour ago
              It's legal because the ships were flying false flags. They claim that they're registered in country X, but when the US calls up country X they are told that the ship is not, in fact, registered there.

              Maritime law exists, and enforcing it is not an act of piracy.

              • voxic11an hour ago
                Maritime law alone isn't what justifies seizing of ships identified as stateless. Under maritime law ships properly registered to a state are only subject to that states laws when in international waters. But stateless ships can be subject to any states laws, however maritime law itself doesn't grant the right to seize even stateless ships. So the US seizing a stateless ship would have to justified under US law.
          • j_maffe2 hours ago
            You're straight-up lying. Very shameful thing to do in defence of a heinous act.

            UN experts condemn US executive order imposing fuel blockade on Cuba https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/02/un-experts-c...

            • Manuel_D2 hours ago
              If you read the link closely, nowhere does it actually say the US is employing military force to stop ships from docking in Cuba - that's what a blockade is. The author of the piece is essentially trying to redefine "blockade" to mean "embargo".

              Again, the ships that actually were boarded were doing illegal things like flying false flags to try and continue to trade with Cuba without triggering retaliatory tariffs.

              • j_maffean hour ago
                As I said in my other reply to you, if it looks like a duck and act like a duck, it's a duck. Call it a de-facto blockade if you have to. Being this pedantic only serves to protect the image of a heinous crime.
                • Manuel_Dan hour ago
                  But it doesn't look like a duck? There are ships docking and departing Cuba all the time. Your speaking as though Cuba is cut off from all maritime trade, which is not the case.

                  Contrast that with actual blockades: like the UK blockading Germany in WW1. Even if a ship was legally registered, the Royal Navy would still board and seize it if it tried to dock on Germany.

                  You're trying to call this a distinction without a difference, when the differences between and embargo and a blockade are stark.

                  • j_maffean hour ago
                    it is cut off from oil. it is effectively an oil-blockade, except for the one shipment the US allowed through, as reported by the media. Sorry, I'm done talking with someone who's this pedantic, it's not good for my blood pressure.

                    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/29/us-russian-o...

                    • Manuel_D32 minutes ago
                      But it's cut off from oil because other countries refuse to trade with Cuba. Not because the US Navy is blocking vessels (besides those flying false flags) from docking with Cuba.

                      If you really believe there's no distinction between an embargo and a blockade then you should have just correctly used the term "embargo". This isn't pedantry, this is the difference between an act of war and an economic move.

                      • akramachamarei21 minutes ago
                        I would further note that, if one is looking for something to dislike about the embargoes, being a blockade isn't necessary. In particular, (classical) liberals should be disturbed by countries forcing private shippers to participate in "their" country's embargo. E.g., would the US attempt to stop and American company from trading with Cuba?
              • skeledrewan hour ago
                > continue to trade with Cuba without triggering retaliatory tariffs

                Why are there "retaliatory tariffs" in the first place? Why is the US forcefully inserting itself into affairs with which it should have no concern? Or are you saying it's the US's concern because... what? They're the world's watchdog and ultimate authority on right behavior? Other countries trading with the countries they've embargoed should rightly be penalized?

                • Manuel_D26 minutes ago
                  Because the US wants to economically isolate Cuba to prod the single party authoritarian regime into liberalizing. It's fine if you think that's a bad thing. My only point is that it's not a blockade, it's an embargo. Countries have the option to trade with Cuba and live with the additional tariffs on their exports to the US. Under an actual blockade, that option doesn't exist. The Royal Navy didn't let ships into Germany during WW1 and slap their flag countries with tariffs. No, they boarded and seized the vessels because this was an actual blockade.
        • imvgikviktbt2 hours ago
          The Cuban government embargoes their own citizens. I don't understand why there isn't more criticism there.
          • shimman2 hours ago
            Well mostly because of the direction actions of imperialism causing the needless deaths of babies but seeing how you seem to be pro-imperialism you probably see this as a good thing for American hegemony. Right up there with bombing school girls in Iran. It's just good diplomacy at that point right?

            Friendly reminder that the only people that majorly benefit from US foreign policy are the elites, most US citizens are left with a more dangerous world where they suffer against backlash, terrorism, and degrading life services.

            • akramachamarei10 minutes ago
              I'm trying to figure out your reason for saying this. You seem to be an adept mind reader so please forgive my mental torpidity, but are you saying that Cuba does not do bad by it's citizens? Or that they do, but are justified? And where exactly does "imperialism" come into the equation?
            • imvgikviktbt2 hours ago
              What does US imperialism have anything to do with the fact that the Cuban government refuses to allow their citizens to buy and sell goods freely?
              • OutOfHerean hour ago
                Even the US government doesn't allow its citizens to trade freely, so what nonsense are you complaining about...
                • akramachamarei19 minutes ago
                  Serious posts are generally preferred on HackerNews, but jokes can be okay if they're funny.
      • ASalazarMX2 hours ago
        > The US is not enforcing a blockade, it's an embargo.

        Oh, so USA is only forcing their trade partners to embargo Cuba! That makes thing better, right?

        • MSKJ2 hours ago
          It's not about better or worse. I think it's important to understand the actual situation first so that we may argue the on the issue at hand. Embargo and blockade are at different levels of escalation. Now we can discuss that the embargo and advocate for de-escalation
        • imvgikviktbt2 hours ago
          Which countries have US forced embargoes on Cuba?
          • ceejayozan hour ago
            https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/29/world/americas/cuba-russi...

            > The Trump administration had been enforcing what amounted to an oil blockade around Cuba since January, threatening nations that had been sending fuel to the country and, in one case, escorting a tanker heading toward Cuba away from the island.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Cuban_crisis

            > The United States began blocking oil tankers heading to Cuba in February 2026, targeting companies such as the Mexican state-owned Pemex and threatening the responsible countries with tariffs should they resist.

            > After the ousting of Maduro, the United States began increasing its pressure on Mexico to reduce its oil sales to Cuba with President Donald Trump threatening tariffs against any country supplying Cuba with oil. Mexico temporarily halted shipments of oil to Cuba by 27 January and Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said that the decision to halt oil deliveries was "a sovereign decision".

            • Manuel_D2 minutes ago
              Your own link highlights the fact that this is not a blockade. The US threatened Mexico with tariffs if they didn't participate in the embargo against Cuba. Mexico decided that trade with Cuba isn't worth tariffs on Mexican exports to America. While the US is pressuring Mexico with the threat of tariffs it is ultimately Mexico's decision to stop sending oil to Cuba.

              If Mexico decided to keep sending oil to Cuba, and the US started sizing ships carrying Mexican oil bound for Cuba that would be a blockade.

          • j_maffean hour ago
            Well recently Mexico and Venezuela. The rest are forced through the 1996 Helms-Burton Act, the U.S. can penalize any foreign company that does business in Cuba.
      • Someone2 hours ago
        FTA: “U.S. President Donald Trump resumed ramping up a six-decade-old American ecomonic embargo on Cuba in January after cutting off its main supply of oil from Venezuela and threatening sanctions on Mexico, its second largest supply, and any other country that provided oil to the island.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Cuban_crisis: “ The United States began blocking oil tankers heading to Cuba in February 2026, targeting companies such as the Mexican state-owned Pemex and threatening the responsible countries with tariffs should they resist. […] On 29 January 2026, Executive Order 14380 was signed and entered into force on 30 January, declaring a national emergency in US and authorizing the imposition of additional tariffs on imports into the United States from countries that directly or indirectly supply oil to Cuba.”

        That’s a bit more than an embargo.

        • Manuel_D2 hours ago
          No really, it's an embargo and a promise to tariff other countries that don't also embargo Cuba.

          An embargo is like boycotting a store. A blockade is like standing around the store with a bunch of batons promising to apprehend anyone who tries to shop at the store.

          They are not the same.

          • j_maffe2 hours ago
            They can beat around the bush to pretend what is effectively a blockade to be anything but a blockade. Call it a de-facto blockade if you have to. You're using technicality as a crutch.

            Edit: corrected it to blockade

            • Manuel_Dan hour ago
              It's not a blockade. Any country around the world is free to sail their cargo ships to Cuba and trade with Cubans. This will in turn, trigger tariffs against them in the US, but if countries really want to trade with Cuba they can.

              A blockade is carried out through military force. Under a blockade ships are physically prevented from docking with the blockaded country, even if they're legally registered.

              If you want to decry what the US is doing to Cuba, go ahead. But it is an embargo not a blockade.

              • j_maffean hour ago
                It is effectively an oil blockade, and it's illegal under international law. Being this pedantic about how the US justifies its actions shows zero understanding for how these things tend to be done. The purpose of a system is what it does.
                • Manuel_D19 minutes ago
                  No, it's not effectively an oil blockade. Countries have the option to trade with Cuba and risk whatever retaliatory tariffs the US promises to put on countries that ship oil to Cuba. These counties choose to refrain from trade with Cuba because the value they get out of exporting goods to the US exceeds the value of trade with Cuba. But if they decided otherwise, that option is available to them.

                  A blockade is an act of war where a country physically stops vessels from entering port in the target of the blockade. There is no choice in a blockade, the country enforcing the blockade is acting unilaterally

                  If you really think this is a distinction without a difference, then you could've just used the word "embargo" and avoided this exchange. But you didn't, you chose to call it a blockade, which is incorrect.

              • dparkan hour ago
                Literally they are blocking tankers from other countries.
          • dparkan hour ago
            Blocking tankers from other countries is a blockade. It’s in the name.

            It’s interesting to see you argue semantics because it implies you agree that the blockade is wrong.

          • cwilluan hour ago
            The use of tools such as embargoes and threats of economic sanctions to prevent the flow of goods in and out of a set of ports needs to have a name, and “blockade” is as good as any other.
          • JKCalhounan hour ago
            It feels like at this point you're splitting hairs on semantics when the effect is the same.

            What is Cuba to do about this non-blockade, embargo?

            • Manuel_D16 minutes ago
              Cuba can meet the US's demands that they stop being a single party communist state and liberalize their economy.
      • legitster2 hours ago
        > U.S. President Donald Trump resumed ramping up a six-decade-old American ecomonic embargo on Cuba in January after cutting off its main supply of oil from Venezuela and threatening sanctions on Mexico, its second largest supply, and any other country that provided oil to the island.

        It has taken on distinctly more "blockade-like" attributes.

      • anigbrowl2 hours ago
        Right and there's no wars in Ukraine or Iran, they're 'special military operations' or 'excursions.'
      • ceejayoz2 hours ago
        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/world/americas/venezuela-...

        > The oil tanker seized by the United States off the coast of Venezuela this week was part of the Venezuelan government’s effort to support Cuba, according to documents and people inside the Venezuelan oil industry.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/20/world/americas/cuba-oil-b...

        > Three days later, the U.S. Coast Guard intercepted a tanker full of Colombian fuel oil en route to Cuba that had gotten within 70 miles of the island, the data showed.

        > The U.S. government called its 1962 policy a “quarantine” to avoid using the word “blockade,” which legally could be interpreted as an act of war. The Trump administration has also avoided using the word “blockade.”

        The distinction seems to be mostly word games at this point.

        • Manuel_D2 hours ago
          This ship was flying a false flag [1], which makes it legal for governments to seize regardless of the situation with Cuba.

          1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-we-know-oil-tanker-the-ski...

          • ceejayoz2 hours ago
            And the Ocean Mariner, that they didn't seize, and just escorted out of the area?
          • lostlogin2 hours ago
            When the Russian shadow fleet exports oil this way, the US turns a blind eye
          • vrganj2 hours ago
            Sure, and she was asking for it by wearing that short skirt.

            Whatever rationalization y'all wanna tell yourself to sleep at night...

            • janderson2152 hours ago
              This is a ridiculous false equivalence and muddies the waters of any serious dissent.
            • Manuel_D2 hours ago
              Do you not realize that flying a false flag is illegal? It's the maritime equivalent of stealing another car's license plate and putting it on your car.

              I'm seriously baffled at your attempt to equate boarding ships that are breaking maritime law with saying women invite rape by the way they dress.

      • ricardobeat2 hours ago
        Trump instituted tariffs on any country that sells oil to Cuba, it is effectively a blockade.

        It’s also in fact preventing ships carrying oil to reach the island, using their military, I wonder if there is a term for that.

        • Manuel_D2 hours ago
          No - they can just pay the tariff and continue to trade. The ships being seized are doing things like flying false flags, to try and trade with Cuba without paying tariffs.
          • ceejayoz2 hours ago
            What legal justification could there possibly be for imposing a tarrif on Mexico-Cuba trade that doesn't involve the US at any point?

            What would your reaction be if China imposed tariffs on US-Canadian border crossings and seized American ships over it?

            • Manuel_D2 hours ago
              A tariff is a tax that a country imposes on goods entering its borders. A country can impose a tariff on any country, at any time, for whatever reason (unless they've signed free trade agreements obligating them to refrain from imposing tariffs).

              > What would your reaction be if China imposed tariffs on US-Canadian border crossings and seized American ships over it?

              Again, the ships in being sized were flying false flags, which is illegal. If American ships decided to take this criminal act, then China is justified in enforcing the law.

              • ceejayoz2 hours ago
                > A tariff is a tax that a country imposes on goods entering its borders.

                Yes. And that is not what happens here!

                None of this oil is entering the US at all!

                • Manuel_D2 hours ago
                  Correct. But the point remains, the US is free to impose a tariff on countries that sell oil to Cuba.
                  • ceejayoz2 hours ago
                    So it's not "a tax that a country imposes on goods entering its borders" now?
                    • baseballdork18 minutes ago
                      It seems fairly obvious that what happens is a tariff is applied to the items entering the US and not the oil going to Cuba.

                      If you trade oil with cuba, then any trade with the US will be subject to the tariff.

                    • Manuel_Dan hour ago
                      No, a tariff is indeed a tax a country imposes on goods entering its borders.

                      I'm not sure what in my comment you think contradicts this.

                      • ceejayozan hour ago
                        > The ships being seized are doing things like flying false flags, to try and trade with Cuba without paying tariffs.
                        • Manuel_D29 minutes ago
                          Yes, they fly false flags to avoid triggering retaliatory tariffs. If country X sells oil to Cuba than country X's goods being imported to the the US will be subject to additional tariffs.

                          I can see how this wording makes it sound like the US is charging a tariff on the oil entering Cuba, but that is not the case. The tariff in that quote is referring to the tariffs the US is promising to place on counties that don't participate in the embargo.

              • vrganj2 hours ago
                "Criminal" according to who?

                The US? Then why does their law apply here?

                International law? Like the ICC the US ignores? Or the climate agreements it breaks? Or the Geneva convention it runs afoul of?

                Sure is convenient the US decided this one specific bit is to be taken extremely seriously.

                Either way, it stinks of imperialism.

                • lostlogin2 hours ago
                  > International law? The one the US constantly chooses to ignore?

                  It’s a little less two faced now though, as this administration ignores US laws too.

            • ibejoeban hour ago
              Good question, and you'd be right that in that situation it wouldn't hold up to scrutiny. That's not what's going on, though. Instead, the tariff applies to trades American trade when it is determined that the other party is also trading with Cuba. The parent is correct; Mexico, or any other country, is free to trade with Cuba, but then it will be subject to American tariffs on American trade. It has to make the choice. There is certainly pressure, but it's on independent states to decide.
            • defen2 hours ago
              If we're imagining a world where the US can't stop China from doing that, I'd probably go on the internet and complain about it.
            • shimman2 hours ago
              It always boils down to the US ignoring international trade and laws in their favor. As you said there is nothing illegal about two countries trading. The idea the US should have a say is deeply undemocratic and frankly anti-human as well, but that's just the US for you.

              This podcast does a great job on highlighting how the media plays its role in justifying the imperialism too:

              https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/shadow-fleets-sanctions-w...

          • iAMkenough2 hours ago
            Paying a tariff to a third-party government doesn’t mean the third-party government is obligated to stop pirating ships under the guise of “flying false flags.”

            It’s a shakedown, meant to harm Cubans.

          • luizfzs2 hours ago
            Trade in US Dollars with other countries need to go through US banks, which can be subject to prohibitions, which can be done by political motivation.

            Also, the issue of the PetroDollar complicates things internationally as well. US throws a tantrum when small countries (or countries it can bully) trade Oil in other currencies. That is very important to keep themselves relevant and with some control over international trades.

            Yet another aspect is that if any goods, regardless of who is selling it, contains more than 10% of components, technology, produced by a US company, such seller requires an US Export license to trade such goods with Cuba.

            So it's not as simple as that.

            https://shippingsolutionssoftware.com/blog/products-subject-...

      • dyauspitr2 hours ago
        The US has pressured other countries to stop trading with Cuba. That’s effectively a blockade.
      • georgemcbay2 hours ago
        > The US is not enforcing a blockade, it's an embargo.

        ...just like the war in Iran isn't a war.

        These important reminders brought to you by the Ministry of Truth.

    • dirtbagskier2 hours ago
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    • oceanplexian2 hours ago
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      • piva0040 minutes ago
        Have you read the Helms-Burton Act?

        Read it [0] and let me know if it really allows every other country to trade with Cuba, it effectively bars any company that wants to do business with the USA from trading with Cuba.

        [0] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-104publ114/pdf/PLAW...

      • ElevenLathe2 hours ago
        The new thing is the secondary sanctions, which penalize those other nations for trading with Cuba, and the threat of phsyically interdicting oil shipments from Mexico or others (though for some reason a Russian one was let through somewhat recently). We're using our economic and military weight to bully unrelated countries from trading with this tiny little island that poses zero threat to the United States. The result is a massive amount of needless human suffering.
      • ceejayoz2 hours ago
        We have seized and intercepted ships trying to do so.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/20/world/americas/cuba-oil-b...

      • dgacmu2 hours ago
        We are threatening tariffs on any country that sells oil to Cuba, a country that uses oil for the vast majority of its electricity generation.

        It might be legal but it also seems immoral.

      • daedrdev2 hours ago
        This was the situation in the past, but the US has now forced Mexico and Vueneusalia to not ship Cuba gas. Of course the cuban economy is so weak it can't afford solar which could solved this, largely due to their own failures
        • input_sh2 hours ago
          Even in the past there has been a bunch of nonsense "rules" that made other countries choose between trading with Cuba or the US, but not both.

          To name one, if a ship docks into Cuba without filing paperwork requesting to do so from the US, it cannot dock into any of the US ports within 180 days of leaving the Cuban territory.

          To name another one, if some product is made somewhere else, but contains >10% of US-made parts or materials somewhere in its supply chain, then as far as the US government is concerned it might as well have been 100% made in the US and therefore cannot be exported to Cuba. Otherwise, the company that sold it to Cuba risks being banned from operating in the US.

          So the US is and has been pretty much tilting the scale against any other country in the world trading with Cuba, using its own purchasing power as a bargaining chip.

          As for solar panels, they do not solve your inability to move cars around. They do reduce your need for fuel, but when you're 100% out of fuel, no car can move around and no amount of solar panels is ever going to fix that.

      • luizfzs2 hours ago
        Trade in US Dollars with other countries need to go through US banks, which can be subject to prohibitions, which can be done by political motivation.

        Also, the issue of the PetroDollar complicates things internationally as well. US throws a tantrum when small countries (or countries it can bully) trade Oil in other currencies. That is very important to keep themselves relevant and with some control over international trades.

        Yet another aspect is that if any goods, regardless of who is selling it, contains more than 10% of components, technology, produced by a US company, such seller requires an US Export license to trade such goods with Cuba.

        So it's not as simple as that.

        https://shippingsolutionssoftware.com/blog/products-subject-...

    • ReptileMan2 hours ago
      They had 70 years to get rid of the communists. In the case of people living under dictatorships I am victim blamer.
      • mitthrowaway22 hours ago
        Yet you guys were happy to open up to trade with China in 1972. Why the double standard?
        • smallmancontrov2 hours ago
          So that the Capitalists could sell the industrial base of the United States of America to the Communist Party of China for 30 pieces of silver.

          Cuba didn't have the ability to break the back of American labor. China did. That's the difference.

          • xp842 hours ago
            I’m not even left wing but I have to admit I’m pretty sure this is a correct analysis.
      • Arodexan hour ago
        If collective punishment is the norm you want to apply, that rule may bite you back sooner than you think...
      • mothballed2 hours ago
        In a vacuum sure, but the communists replaced Batista, who was arguably as bad or worse at the time of the revolution. In the long run they'd have probably been better under Batista because being America's bitch is better for the health of Caribbean nations than being the bitch of USSR/China and the enemy of America while you haul your goods home in a donkey cart like it's the 19th century. But it wasn't knowable at the time the die was cast.
      • pasquinelli2 hours ago
        doesn't surviving a 70 year embargo make you question how bad the communists really are?
        • daedrdev2 hours ago
          Cuba let 20% of the population leave in 2020-24 so that they would have fewer dissenters in the country who might overthrow the government. Thats a higher rate of population per year than the peak of the great Irish famine
          • pasquinellian hour ago
            if they don't let people leave to prevent total state collapse then they're starving their own people (by means of the american trade embargo); if they do let people leave, it's to tighten their stranglehold on the country.
            • kyboren27 minutes ago
              Any way you slice it, such an exodus is never the sign of a well-managed country.
          • mothballed2 hours ago
            Where does one go with one of the weakest passports in the world, no assets, no family connections, and probably only sporadically any skills capable of getting a work visa? I need to get on speed dial whatever immigration lawyer those people had.
            • daedrdevan hour ago
              I can't find the article but I did read a few years ago most had left to either Mexico or the US. The US had a very favorable program for cubans to enter, work and stay in the country under the Biden admin.

              The cuban government via National Office of Statistics and Information admitted it fell by at least 10%, but have not done a census in 15 years. Independent estimates range form 18-24%.

        • Manuel_D2 hours ago
          No. The fact that the Cuban authorities s decided that further impoverishing Cuba is worth preserving their single-party communist regime demonstrates that it is indeed a bad government.
          • pasquinelli36 minutes ago
            after a failed invasion to overthrow the cuban government, we spent a lifetime doing covert operations and using our economic dominance to try to starve cuba to death, but the problem is that cuba has resisted. i wonder if that'll still be your tune if america finds itself on the receiving end of that kind of treatment.
          • vrganj2 hours ago
            It's not the Cuban authorities that are impoverishing Cuba, that's just victim blaming. It is American imperialism, at least stand by your crimes.
            • Manuel_D2 hours ago
              A boycott is a crime? The US has decided not the trade with Cuba, that's it. Cuba is still free to trade with any other country that's willing to trade with them.
              • anigbrowlan hour ago
                5 minutes before this post you were saying it's an embargo, not a blockade. Now it's a 'boycott'. I don't trust people whose arguments constantly shift to meet the rhetorical needs of the moment.

                You don't like the Cuban government because they're communists, OK fine. I don't like the American policy of starving people for years on end while making high-minded sermons about the moral imperfections of the Cuban government.

                • Manuel_D6 minutes ago
                  I should have been more explicit that I was using boycott as an analogy to an embargo, in contrast to a blockade which unilaterally prevents countries from trading, through military force.

                  An embargo is analogous to a boycott: you and your friends decide not to shop at a given store. But people who disagree and still want to shop have the ability to do so.

                  A blockade is like people standing around the store with batons and pepper spray, promising to apprehend anyone who tries to shop at the store.

                  The latter is obviously a much more forceful move. In fact, it's an act of war.

                • kyboren10 minutes ago
                  OK, then forget the sermons; how 'bout this?

                  The USA, like all serious countries, seeks to defend and advance its interests. Those interests include the suppression of self-declared enemies like Cuba and Iran, or seeking regime change so they cease being self-declared enemies of the US.

                  The irony of your claim that the US is starving the Cuban people is that in fact, the US could go that far and it would actually end the enmity from Cuba. But they haven't and they won't. It would harm other interests, possibly engender enmity elsewhere, and outside of total war Americans don't play the game that dirty.

                  But if people widely believe that's what the US is doing anyway, and they're "doing the time" without having actually having "done the crime", then considering that actually doing it would end the enmity from Cuba, it starts to look awfully attractive to Just Do It. So claiming that they are, when they actually aren't, only makes it more likely that they will.

                  Anyway, given that both ex-communist states China and Russia have demanded economic reforms from the recalcitrant Cuban regime--which have not been forthcoming--and that food is not embargoed, I think the impoverishment and hunger of the Cuban people can't credibly be blamed on "el bloqueo".

                  Cuba now imports their sugar--from the US of all places! You really think that it's American policy starving Cubans?

              • pasquinellian hour ago
                i remember during covid china sent its vaccine to cuba and america captured it and siezed it. that's why cuba developed their own vaccines. another point on the "maybe the cuban communist party isn't so bad" tally.
              • vrganj2 hours ago
                It's not a boycott. It's an embargo. The US is boarding and seizing boats with supplies headed for Cuba.

                https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/world/americas/venezuela-...

                • Manuel_D2 hours ago
                  These ships were flying false flags, which is a violation of maritime law. It's legal to board and size ships doing this, regardless of embargos.
      • righthand2 hours ago
        Right because if we trade with the communists near us then people will start to realize that our government is made up of communism for corporations. Which is totally fine because we hide those communist ideas under “capitalism”. Let’s encourage the fed to buy more Intel shares and bailout big business (banks and PPP giveaways) but continue to wag the finger at communism in Cuba because it’s “bad” and the 1950s boomers got red scared!
  • RiverCrochet2 hours ago
    Cuba went through something similar in 1991:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Period

  • rastrojero200014 minutes ago
    The chinesse should just supply them with a shitload of wind turbines and solar panels. Syphillitic Mumm-ra is deathly afraid of those so he's likely to leave them alone.
  • daedrdev2 hours ago
    The US has had an embargo on Cuba for a long time that exempted Food and Medicine, while other countries freely traded with Cuba.

    However, under the Trump admin it has turned into a de-facto blockade of all fuel, which really isn't the embargo, it's a new blockade by the US against Cuba. So I don't get why we blame it on the embargo when the current problems are clearly caused by the blockade.

    Cuba's previous economic problems are driven by a complete lack of economic reforms, as unnamed Chinese officials said in this FT article two years ago:

    https://www.ft.com/content/9ca0a495-d5d9-4cc5-acf5-43f42a912...

      "China publicly supports Cuba’s right to choose its own path to economic development “in line with its national conditions”, but privately Chinese officials have long urged the Cuban leadership to shift from its vertically planned economy to something closer to the Chinese model, according to economists and diplomats briefed on the situation.
    
      Chinese officials have been perplexed and frustrated at the Cuban leadership’s unwillingness to decisively implement a market-oriented reform programme despite the glaring dysfunction of the status quo, the people said."
    
    I agree what the US is doing is horrible, but Cuba is not blameless on their overall situation
    • _whiteCaps_2 hours ago
      Other countries are in a Catch-22 situation regarding Cuba - for example in Canada, Canadian law penalizes companies that refuse to trade with Cuba in order to comply with U.S. sanctions, and U.S. law can penalize them if they do trade.
    • simpaticoder2 hours ago
      Yeah it's crazy when the CCP expresses frustration that you're not doing more capitalism...

      As an aside, I'm surprised that computers wouldn't make centralized economies more doable. It might not be good but at least the people wouldn't be starving and dying because hospitals are out of electricity.

      • norwegiandemon24 minutes ago
        This was tried with computers, and failed. In Bolivia I believe.

        I just watch a video on YouTube recently (don't have the link handy but a simple search should find it no problem) that explains why it's not a computational problem and when tried again with AI it still fails.

      • janderson2152 hours ago
        Isn’t electricity a prerequisite for computing?
    • reillyse2 hours ago
      but what has changed right now in this particular situation, is the fact that they are blockaded since January.
      • daedrdevan hour ago
        I made sure to mention that several times while complaining about the cuban government overall.
  • EcommerceFlow2 hours ago
    The current advancement of technology and warfare has opened up fascinating opportunities for powerful nations (USA). For example, given the extremely sophisticated targeting capacities of Palantir, how out of realm would taking out the entire Castro family be? I'm not talking about the morality, but simply the military options now available to the President.
  • eschulz2 hours ago
    Cuba has received shipments of oil and humanitarian goods from Mexico and Russia just this year, and I don't believe that the US has done anything to stop that (although the US has heavily sanctioned Russia in general for years now). However, those good received this year appear to have been free of charge.

    I'm wondering if the US is solely to blame for Cuba being completely unable to pay for the oil it needs. Obviously the US embargo on Cuba is devastating for its economy, but other states impacted by US sanctions in a similar manner seem to get by with essential good like food, oil, and medicine. Cuba is in a poor economic spot, but the US does not appear at all to be using its military to prevent them from trade with other nations.

  • legitster2 hours ago
    The embargo on Cuba is unbelievably silly in 2026:

    - The Cold War is over and Cuba poses no security risk - Florida is no longer a swing state and appeasing Cuban Americans is not a worthwhile political move - We are willing to ally with much more oppressive regimes for less geopolitical benefits - Cuba was in the process of liberalizing and developing an independent middle class for the first time in half a century before Trump's last crackdown.

    The jury is out on whether the "regime change" (or more like, junior dictator promotion) in Venezuela was worthwhile. It's certainly looking like a quagmire in Iran.

    By hardballing GAESA, we're probably shooting ourselves in the foot by making the Cuban population more resentful of the US. "Regime change" is a less likely positive outcome than it was 8 years ago.

    But we have plenty of models of military dictatorships slowly opening up to becoming stable economies through trade and access. More or less that's what happened with Vietnam, to name one.

    • BobaFloutistan hour ago
      My impression is that while the final outcome is yet to be seen, Syria's current administration is a decent example of a government that one would naively expect to be fairly regressive recognizing the power and prosperity granted by liberalization.
  • ricardobeat2 hours ago
    Isn’t Cuba prime estate for solar, maybe wind too? A little gift from China could go a long way.
  • WarmWash2 hours ago
    There is a point where you are so weak, and your opponent is strong, that the best outcome for everyone on the whole is for you to just capitulate. Surrender.

    I don't know if there is something I am missing, but to me, the "bad guy" in a situation like this is the one holding onto power at everyone else's (extreme) expense, throwing their own team into the fire to keep their power in place as long as possible.

    • j_maffean hour ago
      Great victim blaming
      • WarmWash29 minutes ago
        The victims are the innocent people being shredded in the middle of it, I don't see where I am blaming them
  • wiradikusuma2 hours ago
    From the perspective of a layman, isn't this bullying? Don't we suppose to have the UN where nations.. unite?
    • some_random2 hours ago
      No, refusing to trade with an adversary nation isn't bullying.
      • reillyse2 hours ago
        It's been established many times in this thread that the US is not just refusing to trade but 1) Forcing trading partners to also not trade 2) Physically boarding and seizing ships that are attempting to go to the island with cargos of oil. Yet you just keep repeating the stuff about it being just about not trading with the US.
      • nso2 hours ago
        Punishing others for trading with another nation is bullying.
    • mrguyoramaan hour ago
      The UN was designed to not bind the powerful nations. That's the point of the security council.

      Granted, little weird Russia kept a seat when the USSR broke up.

      Sure, they will work hard to be a real place for mediation between small countries and unimportant parties, but they will veto anything against their interests.

  • asHqar2 hours ago
    The US starves anyone it does not like from natural resources and subsequently makes them buy US natural resources. It has done this to the EU, now it is trying to do it to China and Cuba.

    This way they can control everyone.

    • Manuel_D2 hours ago
      This is the exact opposite of what the US is doing to Cuba: The US isn't making Cuba by US resources, it's prohibiting Cuba from buying US resources and products.
      • ashg1002 hours ago
        They are threatening all other countries with secondary sanctions:

        > "This dramatic worsening has a single cause: the genocidal energy blockade to which the United States subjects our country, threatening irrational tariffs against any nation that supplies us with fuel," Diaz-Canel wrote.

        Once a regime change is accomplished, Cuba will buy US energy and not Iranian or Russian. So go the plans at least.

        • Manuel_D2 hours ago
          The above commenter quite explicitly said that countries are being forced to buy resources from the US which is the exact opposite of an embargo.
    • some_random2 hours ago
      The US is explicitly not letting Cuba buy US goods, that's literally the only thing it's doing.
      • dgacmu2 hours ago
        As noted above: The US is threatening tariffs on any nation that sells oil to Cuba. That's quite different from simply refusing to trade with it, it's effectively preventing Cuba from buying oil from Mexico, among other sources.
        • reillyse2 hours ago
          also physically preventing ships from delivering fuel to the Island. It's all even more cynical and hypocritical when compared to the strait of Hormuz debacle, how can the US pretend that Iran must allow oil tankers unobstructed passage (international laws, ships at sea bla bla bla) when the US is deliberately preventing oil ships to travel to Cuba.
      • amanaplanacanal2 hours ago
        And blockading Venezuelan oil from reaching the island. Don't forget that part.
        • palmoteaan hour ago
          > And blockading Venezuelan oil from reaching the island. Don't forget that part.

          Is the new Venezuelan leader still trying to send Cuba oil? Or has she stopped that?

  • mlmonkey2 hours ago
    I don't really understand the point of the embargo. I am an American.

    Picking on a tiny country like Cuba serves no purpose. The elites in Cuba are not going to suffer; the normal people will.

    Instead of acting like a bully, I wish our government would be more magnanimous and just drop the embargo.

    • ceejayoz2 hours ago
      > I don't really understand the point of the embargo.

      Making sure Florida's Cuban-American community keeps voting Republican.

      The end result is going to be them being another China-dependent colony. https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/as-the-us-starves-it-of...

    • Tangurena22 hours ago
      As a nation, we're still pissed off that those uppity dark skinned people (/s) overthrew our businesses and replaced the corrupt politicians installed by our government/businesses. Generally, when other nations do that, we invade them. Repeating that pattern in Central America led to coining the phrase "banana republic" to describe it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic

      Also, we're still pissed off at Iran for deposing (in 1979) the dictator that we installed in 1953.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

      Whenever America acts "funny" (or irrationally, if you prefer) and does something politically/militarily that makes no sense to the average person, the answer is almost always "white supremacy". In the past, that could be waved away by mumbling "we're fighting communism", but after the collapse of the Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact, we needed a new excuse. Sometimes "fighting terrorism" is used instead, but the T-word never gets applied to white people.

      • janderson2152 hours ago
        Nice try attributing it to racism.

        > Therefore, the term banana republic is a pejorative descriptor for a servile oligarchy that abets and supports, for kickbacks, the exploitation of large-scale plantation agriculture, especially banana cultivation.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic

      • reducesufferingan hour ago
        > As a nation, we're still pissed off that those uppity dark skinned people

        What? This is currently purely on Cuban-Americans as a voting bloc in Florida...

        The recent escalation is due to Marco Rubio, a Cuban-American, being Secretary of State.

    • api2 hours ago
      There's a sizable Cuban-American community that hates the regimes and wants to use the USA to overthrow it, and they're a swing voting bloc in Florida which has a lot of electoral votes. That's the point.

      Deciding the Cold War is over, other countries get to decide their own political affairs, and normalizing trade with Cuba would benefit Americans.

      That's also a minor gripe I have with the leftists who call this imperialism. Let's say it is. And it's benefiting me how? I thought imperialism was supposed to benefit the empire doing the imperialism-ing. (At least in theory.) This is costing us tons of money and international prestige.

      (Not saying I support that kind of imperialism either, just making the point that this is lose-lose.)

      • Tangurena22 hours ago
        There is a lot of spite involved in making this a "lose-lose" situation. Never underestimate the power of spite.
    • Psillisp2 hours ago
      A political tactician would call it a Wedge Issue.

      A human would call it generational depravity of the powerful.

    • davydm2 hours ago
      And, for an encore - stop all the other stupid shit. The rest of the world (and the US) is paying the price for little trump-tantrums, like the one against Iran. He's not a good international leader. He's not even a reasonable at-home president.
    • b3ing2 hours ago
      They embarrassed us years ago by forcing out US capitalists exploiting them and sided with Russia during the Cold War. We won’t forgive them for 50,000 years now despite we work fine with Japan and Germany
    • jpadkins2 hours ago
      can't have communists in the western hemisphere. They give up authoritarian communism, we will be magnanimous.
      • deadbolt2 hours ago
        Communism must be absolutely incredible for such a small country to be such a threat to a superpower.
        • kelseyfrog2 hours ago
          We must rhetorically cast our enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak."[1]

          1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urfascism

        • marknutter2 hours ago
          Would you tolerate a fascist country in your back yard?
          • BobaFloutistan hour ago
            "Would you tolerate" is kind of interesting phrasing.

            It feels like there's no "one-size-fits-all" ideal level of intervention in a dysfunctional/repressive government. Sometimes if you just leave them alone, they "inevitably" liberalize, reaping the benefits. Sometimes if you just leave them alone they calcify, form coalitions, and actively interfere in Western democracies. Sometimes if you intervene a little, you can help support the people oust their rulers. Sometimes if you intervene a little, you just harm innocent civilians, and entrench the power of the regime. And so on and so forth for every possible level of intervention.

            Sure, some of it is going to inherently depend on the actual level of the power disparity, on any counteracting support the regime is getting from your adversaries, on the particular details of your intentions and your intervention, on the timing, etc. But sometimes it really feels like nobody knows what they're doing with foreign policy, and sometimes you get lucky and the country where you literally nuke two major cities just sort of shrugs, shakes your hand, and becomes one of your closest allies with a great deal of goodwill between citizens, and on the other hand sometimes you put boots on the ground an funnel enormous sums of money and (at least hypothetically) try to maintain positive relationships with the locals in a huge nation-building project and after decades you end up with...nothing.

            So, to go back to what you said, sometimes it feels like tolerating the fascist country in your backyard might be the best way to turn it into a non-fascist country. And, on the other hand, sometimes it might be the worst way. These things seem difficult.

          • ceejayoz2 hours ago
            The US has a long history of installing fascists in South America in the name of fighting communism.
        • WarmWash2 hours ago
          The US could not care less about Cuba being communist.

          They care a lot about Cuba being "open door communist bros" with the USSR, and now with China.

          If China moves on Taiwan, and the US moves to defend, and then a bunch of Chinese missiles hit the East Coast, people will wonder what the government was doing letting China set up camp right on our door step.

          • anigbrowlan hour ago
            The irony of saying we should have the option to defend Taiwan but we can't tolerate China posing a threat in our backyard.
            • WarmWash26 minutes ago
              It's about as ironic as defending your goal while also trying to get the ball in the opponents goal. I suppose in some way it's ironic, but it's also the only beneficial way to play the game.
  • davidfekkean hour ago
    Here are some facts about Cuba and oil. The Cuban government was getting free oil from Venezuella. That ended on Jan. 3rd. Cuba was taking that oil, and reselling most of it on the open oil market. Cuba also has their own oil wells, so they can produce oil if they need it. Cuba was also having power outages prior to Jan 3rd.

    Cuba also used to have the best economony in the Caribbean prior to 1959 when the Castro's took over. They switched from a free market ecomony to a state run socialist economy.

  • louwrentius2 hours ago
    The humanitarian impact of this embargo is just one of the many stains on the USA that can never be removed.
  • alterom2 hours ago
    It's not like one needs to say blames here, as if it's just an accusation and there could be another cause for that.

    We also have no reason to doubt that Cuba has run out of fuel as a result of an embargo on fuel when the officials say so. It's not a surprise; it was the expected outcome and the entire point of the embargo.

    A better title would be: "Cuba jas run out of fuel due to the US embargo".

    • reactordev2 hours ago
      Either way, no bueno.
    • jmclnx2 hours ago
      >It's not like one needs to say blames here, as if it's just an accusation and there could be another cause for that

      The US started the Oil Embargo and AFAIK it is still on-goimg. Cuba is running out of fuel. To me 2+2=4, so I say blame can be placed on the US :)

      • dgacmu2 hours ago
        I believe the person you're replying to is criticizing the choice of title, by noting that the phrase "blames" is suggestive that there might be other causes, when there clearly is not (which they agree with you about).
      • beepbooptheory2 hours ago
        The point is the headline makes it this subjective accusation for Cuba, rather than, you know, a cause and effect thing.

        > Home burns down, residents blame a fire

    • davydm2 hours ago
      functionally the same - and more accurate to use the original title, as Cuba is the one doing the blaming. I don't know why you're standing up for this - it's more bad behavior from a country that sells itself as the savior, and it's not new - they've been doing this (whatever they need to, to change regimes) in other countries for decades. It's shameless bullying, and completely contravenes "the rules" about how to interact with other countries.
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  • vrganj2 hours ago
    What the US is doing to Cuba and has been doing to it for the past 70 years is a horrible crime.

    What a lack of confidence in their own system to not allow fair competition between Cuban socialism and American capitalism.

    It feels similar to Putin invading Ukraine because he didn't like the example of an EU-aligned country prospering next door and the populace starting to ask difficult questions.

    • ch4s32 hours ago
      I can agree that the current de facto blockade of oil is an unwarranted act of aggression and that the embargo was bad policy but the embargo was hardly criminal. The premise of the embargo was that Cuba expropriated American property without compensation so congress was punishing the Cuban government in turn. Again, its bad policy but not really unusual or criminal per se. The embargo has also had a ton of carve out since the end of the Cold War and the US is the main supplier of agricultural good to Cuba. The Cuban government has also engaged in a lot of bad behavior over the decades that warrants some sort of international sanction. They fueled the Angolan Civil War and made the broader conflict far worse (it was sort of their Vietnam). They prop up the worst security states around Latin America, like SEBIN in Venezuela until very recently. They were also involved in helping rig elections and suppress dissent in a number of Latin American countries.

      > It feels similar to Putin invading Ukraine because he didn't like the example of an EU-aligned country prospering next door and the populace starting to ask difficult questions.

      This is a misreading of Putin's motivation IMHO. He states clearly over and over again that it's about a historical concept of greater and historic Russia. He has even stated publicly it has nothing to do with NATO. So this is a false equivalence.

  • some_random2 hours ago
    It's so funny how much anti-americans cry about the US refusing to sell things to an adversary.
    • amanaplanacanalan hour ago
      If you think that's the only thing going on, you are missing a lot.