41 pointsby martinald7 hours ago18 comments
  • SyneRyder4 hours ago
    Ouch. I've just been building a tool to go through my historic usage. I'm only on the Max 5x plan, and I only use about 40% of my weekly usage allowance. But it looks like even that usage would now cost me $1000/month of API usage under the new plan. That's a 10x price increase.

    At least we've got clarity now? But a lot of my value comes from "claude -p" usage, either scheduled tasks while I'm asleep, or responding to incoming emails / voicetexts. Even the email replies will barely fit in $100/month. I'm not going to pay $1000 / month, so I guess it really is time for me to look at the competition and move my programmatic usage to them.

    Man, I love the Claude models, and the whole idea of constitutional AI. We built a lot of tools & infrastructure together, but kept a lot of logs as well. I'll be really sad if I mostly have to move on now.

    • coldtea4 hours ago
      >responding to incoming emails / voicetexts.

      You need an AI for that?

      • spoiler3 hours ago
        I'm 99% sure my old boss was pasting Slack messages in and out of ChatGPT. Some people are feral with this AI bullshit
      • arm323 hours ago
        How else am I going to rapidly cognitively decline?
  • TomGarden5 hours ago
    This sucks. I use Claude -p over tailscale to code over voice when I’m on the go for accessibility reasons, and most of the time I do the same while at the computer. Running through $200 in API pricing takes no time. Oh well, time to switch providers I guess.
  • vova_hn26 hours ago
    XCancel (alternative Twitter frontend) link: https://xcancel.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2054610152817619388

    I think that this is much better than the previous situation with total lack of clarity on what is allowed and what isn't.

  • khoirulan hour ago
    Switched to Codex a few days ago and not regretting it. Claude Code with the $20 subscription has been bad lately. Burning through quota in no time, even when sticking to older Sonnet models.
  • eagle10nean hour ago
    When AOL was released, they marketed unlimited, how have times changed with Claude limits.
  • a34729t3 hours ago
    So basically local LLMs are rapidly improving to the point where they can handle many of the automation or local coding use cases on reasonable hardware (say $5k or less). What's the edge for frontier model providers here?
  • stusmall4 hours ago
    Does anyone know if this will impact ACP invoking Claude? IE using Claude from zed. I assume not but looking for confirmation
    • bhu84 hours ago
      It would unfortunately impact it. ACP uses Claude SDK and is developed by a third-party.
  • 4 hours ago
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  • rickdg6 hours ago
    Guess we're no short of reasons to stick to Codex.
  • 2001zhaozhao3 hours ago
    Inb4 future Claude developer workflow (REQUIRED to save 90% of token $):

    - The AI gives human prompts to copy-paste into Claude Code

    - Human copy prompts into Claude Code

    - The AI reads output from Claude Code

  • 4 hours ago
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  • potsandpansan hour ago
    Just stop using claude. It's easy. Grab pi, some provider with open weights, cheaper inference or a more permissive subscription plan, (openai, Alibaba, deepseek, what have you) and never look back.
  • LoganDark6 hours ago
    I use `claude -p` interactively -- I understand why they put it under this new umbrella, but having to open the fullscreen interface each time to not be counted as a programmatic tool is a little disappointing.
  • kreidema4 hours ago
    This is annoying because tools like conductor use the SDK. So this will either be the end of conductor for me or I switch to codex. Interesting dilemma.
  • Kim_Bruning4 hours ago
    They're definitely aiming their sights at people who automate things. Which is to say: programmers.

    Which is interesting, since you'd also think that programmers would be their primary customers.

    • coldtea4 hours ago
      You're not a customer of a business when you cost them $2 for each $1 they make out of you. At best you're their VC subsidised target demographic.
      • Kim_Bruning3 hours ago
        If so, then they don't actually have a product. Which -I guess- is what you're saying. I'm worried you might be right. Even though Claude is otherwise really good.
        • SaucyWrong3 hours ago
          I’d say there is a product there, what remains to be seen IMO is whether the market will bear whatever the price of that product ends up being once Anthropic are finished changing their terms, pricing, and rules of engagement every several weeks…
          • Kim_Bruning3 hours ago
            I'm definitely nervous to be a customer. Which is probably enough signal by itself, isn't it? :-/
  • andrewstuart6 hours ago
    Can someone explain in plain English please.
    • martinald5 hours ago
      Currently, if you use claude -p (non interactive mode) in for example CI/CD, you can use your included subscription tokens.

      They are now changing it to be:

      You get $20/$100/$200 of "credit" that can be used for claude -p. Problem is, once you are out of that it is the normal API rates (outrageously expensive).

    • SaucyWrong3 hours ago
      “All of your favorite Claude harnesses will get dramatically more expensive starting on June 15”
  • StackTopherFlow5 hours ago
    The anthropic enshittification continues.