U.S. intelligence shows Iran retains substantial missile capabilities(www.nytimes.com)
41 pointsby hebelehubele4 hours ago9 comments
  • yuppiepuppie3 hours ago
    Suprises no one. I remember reading that the IRGC is quite a distributed organization, and has planned for the exact situation they find themselves in today.

    Im guessing they have lots of stuff stashed away only known to each IRGC "section"

    • stock_toaster2 hours ago
      > Suprises no one.

      Well, it is maybe a surprise to at least _one_ person! /s

  • pentaphobe22 minutes ago
    Wait, so you're saying there are "WMDs" in the Middle East?

    Fun and totally not sarcastic fact fact: the opposite of "Deja vu" is "jamais vu"

  • lo_zamoyski3 hours ago
    The amount of buffoonery on the US side is staggering.

    1. Iran is always 2 weeks away from having nuclear missiles.

    2. Iran's military capability is destroyed.

    3. If Iran had nuclear warheads, it could successfully deploy them against the US.

    4. If Iran had nuclear warheads and could deliver them, their leadership is so suicidal/stupid that it would trigger MAD.

    Truly staggering buffoonery.

    • tejohnso3 hours ago
      Also, the USRAEL regime keeps feigning diplomacy after committing multiple egregious acts of perfidy. On more than one occasion they started bombing during or at beginning of negotiations.
      • josefritzishere2 hours ago
        Bonus points for the correct use of the word perfidy. Great word.
    • nostrademons3 hours ago
      The enemy is both strong and weak.
  • bayarearefugee3 hours ago
    You really think the President of the United States would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
  • pengaru3 hours ago
    "intelligence"
  • jacknews3 hours ago
    ... so we need to hit them again...
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    • johng3 hours ago
      If their regular missiles are bad enough, just imagine them with nukes.
      • glaslong3 hours ago
        All we seem to have done is prove to every non-nuclear country that they all SHOULD have nukes. Because it would have prevented Iran being invaded.
        • dfadsadsf2 hours ago
          It's game theory. You start developing nukes and risk US bombing you to stone age while killing your personally. But the moment you develop nukes, US will likely leave you alone. Choices.
      • tejohnso3 hours ago
        I imagine with nukes they'd be much like Russia, or Pakistan, or India, or China. In other words, showing restraint and intelligence, and having a deterrent against wars of aggression from the world's highest-funded army.
      • jalapenoj3 hours ago
        A few to Israel would solve a lot of problems.
      • megous3 hours ago
        US will kill more people through secondary effects of their aggression against Iran, than Iran's nuke ever would directly. True barbarians, except I understand English, so they sound to me less like bar bar bar, and more like a*holes. My gf tries to convince me US americans just don't care and are more like a bear in a porcelain shop. But dunno, I look at Cuba, Iran, Israel and lot of other places americans are very aggressive in/against and it's more like a*holes at this point to me. Whole porcelain shop is suffering. This just isn't the "we are big and stumbled a bit and broke stuff", anymore.
      • bigyabai3 hours ago
        That sounds like Israel's problem. Iran doesn't possess a large enough missile to credibly nuke the US.
      • CamperBob23 hours ago
        They could have had nukes long ago. They exercised restraint. We didn't. Just imagine the regret they are experiencing now.

        Basically, Trump has taught some terrible people that they should have been even worse. The lesson will not be lost on their descendants.

        • JohnMakin3 hours ago
          And what's truly ironic and moronic, is that the deal the talks are seeking a graceful exit for now would basically be a version of the JCPOA that was withdrawn for pretty much no reason in 2018. Which, if you are Iran, there is zero chance you're going to agree to anything like that anymore now they have all the leverage.

          Working hard, thank you!

        • delecti3 hours ago
          I don't think they should be experiencing regret. The power in nukes is not in using them, it's in the threat of using them. The threat of using them keeps you from being attacked, but once you actually use them, so will the other guys.

          This war has pulled the tarp off of their control over the Strait of Hormuz though. That's a strategic weapon they can use without getting nuked back. Iran is much stronger than they were before the war; this was their Trinity test.

          • CamperBob22 hours ago
            The power of nukes is that you don't get attacked by the US or Israel or Russia or anyone else.

            None of this would have happened if they had developed (or otherwise acquired) nuclear weapons. End of story.

      • jacknews3 hours ago
        Did they fire their missiles before they were surprise-attacked by Trump?

        IMHO they should have nukes as a deterrent and to balance Israel.

  • mugivarra693 hours ago
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  • gsibble3 hours ago
    Removed from the front page as it should be as this violates YC submission rules.
    • iamnothere3 hours ago
      I don’t know if this article was a good fit for HN or not, but you people are just as bad as the Biden-era info suppressors (Jankowitz etc).

      Stop trying to control the flow of accurate information when it doesn’t benefit you. Let the crowd decide what’s relevant.

  • gsibble3 hours ago
    Article from the NYT with a vested interest in making the admin look bad = doubt
    • amanaplanacanal3 hours ago
      This administration doesn't need any help to look bad.