Residents furious as Utah approves datacenter twice the size of Manhattan(www.theguardian.com)
33 pointsby pzxc4 hours ago6 comments
  • krunck4 hours ago
    These are projects designed to serve the US military in it's future wars against China and other "threats". Note that "other threats" includes the American citizenry. You'll be - probably already are - targets of continual AI propaganda and manipulation to keep you compliant and keep paying your taxes to support this waste.
    • RiverCrochet38 minutes ago
      When AI takes all jobs, how are the taxes gonna be paid?
      • collingreen11 minutes ago
        They aren't. Nobody in power is so dumb they haven't thought of this yet - the scary idea is that those people in power don't think this is a problem, which implies the normal folk like us are either on our own or actively exterminated.

        If the billionaire class doesn't think they need taxes or a workforce then what does that look like? If the population goes from 8B to like 5K + robots for the drudgery then all the problems go away - no more war, no more climate change, no famine, no large logistics problems.

        I continually worry that these people in power see the rest of us as a nuisance to optimize away.

  • pzxc4 hours ago
    The data center project is by Shark Tank investor Kevin O'Leary and will consume 9GW, more power than the entire State of Utah currently consumes
    • nradov3 hours ago
      It's not going to consume 9GW because it won't actually be built. There is no financing. The entire project is a scam.

      https://youtu.be/RWoV0EXxa7c

      • SilverElfin2 hours ago
        It may still be built by someone else. Many PE firms are starting to built land portfolios for where a data center can be easily built. So the current owners of the project could just resell it to those with financing.
    • Arnt2 hours ago
      Ah, when your write things like that, do you really think they'll come true?

      If no: why do you write them?

  • rolph3 hours ago
    heres a FAQ re:the site:

    https://www.boxeldercountyut.gov/647/Stratos-Project-Fact-Sh...

    heres a site mapfromthe FAQ:

    https://www.boxeldercountyut.gov/644/Stratos-Project-Map

    it strikes me that a swath of the salt ridge adjacent to the salt lake bed is desired.

    the proximity to current naturalgas distribution infra, suggests a mulligan,made out of natural gas welling.

    if there is a large salt dome and gas deposit, theres the revenue and free utilities.

    • HeyLaughingBoy2 hours ago
      That URL makes me shudder: an entire county full of Box Elder bugs!
  • ChrisArchitectan hour ago
    Previously:

    Utah greenlights 9GW AI campus using over twice state electricity

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47932941

    Utah data center: Projected daily heat equivalent to 23 atomic bombs

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48058221

  • SilverElfin2 hours ago
    They should be furious. These tech companies are doing whatever they want, without a care for how it impacts others. SpaceX does it by polluting night skies. The others do it by polluting the planet. Things like light pollution and noise pollution really do matter. But it’s also a lot more direct than that, like people whose water supply loses pressure (https://www.gadgetreview.com/data-center-drains-30-million-g...) or turns brown (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48111599) after a data center is built near them.
    • astrangean hour ago
      Entirely fake. Or rather, the water issue is caused by there being /a construction project/, not because it's a data center.
  • tt242 hours ago
    Luddites
    • collingreen5 minutes ago
      After watching everything the luddites predicted come true this insult might not hit like you want it to.
      • tt242 minutes ago
        Like what?