36 pointsby amanaplanacanal2 hours ago8 comments
  • dmixan hour ago
    A Chinese TV channel spent a bunch of money doing ADAS tests and Tesla came out on top of all the Chinese brands, including all the LIDAR systems. Although tests were all in the day time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xumyEf-WRI&t=1203s

    https://electrek.co/2025/07/29/another-huge-chinese-self-dri...

    XPENG (major chinese ADAS brand) recently decided to copy Tesla's vision-only+AI world gen data approach, after originally focusing only on LIDAR https://electrek.co/2026/04/29/xpeng-vla-2-test-drive-tesla-...

    There's also been talk of companies pushing a hybrid LIDAR+vision approach using custom hardware since it's complex to merge the two datasets. So the answer might eventually be somewhere in between instead of companies choosing one or the other depending on costs.

  • laweijfmvoan hour ago
    yet i still can’t use basic autopilot on the highway because it phantom brakes every 2 hours
    • aetherspawn41 minutes ago
      Autopilot (no longer for sale) is so unsafe I’m surprised there’s no class action for owners to force Tesla to upgrade it to FSD for free.

      Especially in right hand drive markets (non US) it’s even worse than Toyota’s radar cruise.

      I’ve nearly been killed by it about 5 times because it randomly steers into fences and things. It also randomly fails to change lanes (1 in 100), and then just randomly steers full lock and goes out of control.

      Model 3 - Highland

      • lotsofpulp13 minutes ago
        Autopilot in my 2024 Model Y never changes lanes. That has always been a feature restricted to “Full” Self Driving. Autopilot is just lane assist and cruise control.

        I can’t recall anytime either Autopilot or FSD put me in danger though.

        • aetherspawn10 minutes ago
          The branding is confusing. I’m talking about the paid version of Autopilot, which was for sale for $5000, sometimes called “Autopilot Plus”.

          For right hand drive markets, it seems to be a stripped down version of FSD 10 or 11. It automatically changes lanes, takes corners and highway exits, but does not stop at traffic lights. It drives exactly in the middle of the lane, doesn’t shuffle over for trucks, and is easily confused.

    • radial_symmetryan hour ago
      Are you on an extremely old version or something? I have had my model Y for 5 years and it only phantom braked once ever.
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      • aetherspawn40 minutes ago
        Many countries in the world are on a 6+ year old version of Autopilot, yeah..
    • ajrossan hour ago
      So, that's not my experience with current FSD versions. But whatever, sure. Let's accept your data point as measured:

      Every... TWO HOURS?! I mean, come on. Put a camera on yourself or another human driver. There's an unexpected braking event at least that often, almost always in a more dangerous situation. The human failure tends to be failing to detect a real obstacle, vs. slowing for a phantom one.

      This is just too much. If you don't like it don't use it. But to pretend that stomps-the-brakes-every-few-hours is a stop ship kind of safety bug is quite frankly ridiculous.

      • sumeno12 minutes ago
        If you are having unexpected braking events every 2 hours you should be paying better attention to your driving. I go months without them
      • tzs32 minutes ago
        > Every... TWO HOURS?! I mean, come on. Put a camera on yourself or another human driver. There's an unexpected braking event at least that often, almost always in a more dangerous situation

        Wait...what are counting as an "unexpected braking event"? I can't think of anything I do with brakes that would not be counted as ordinary braking that happens anywhere near as often as every two hours.

  • amazingamazingan hour ago
    Neat. I wonder which others will pass. I wonder if safety sense 3 cars will pass too. Speaking of which it’s insane a sienna doesn’t have that. I wish Tesla made a van instead of the cyber truck. Americans and their truck obsession…
    • MrBuddyCasino8 minutes ago
      A Tesla van would be amazing. Unfortunately not going to happen.
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  • readthenotes1an hour ago
    "four newly integrated advanced safety tests:

        Pedestrian automatic emergency braking 
        Lane keeping assistance 
        Blind spot warning, and  
        Blind spot intervention 
    "

    Don't most cars do something like that now? I'm curious what's different between Tesla and, say, a Honda Accord?

    • calchris42an hour ago
      The article is vague, but I suspect this is referring to FMVSS-127 which makes certain active safety features mandatory in 2029 and also increases the difficulty of some required to pass scenarios. The new scenarios require responding from higher initial speeds which effectively requires longer sensor ranges and/or lower latency.
    • sumenoan hour ago
      How much did Honda's CEO give the president in the last election?
      • kyleeean hour ago
        10% for the big guy, iirc
    • brandonagr2an hour ago
      There is a big difference between "something like" and actually passing the tests, I would be surprised if any non vision based system has the reaction time needed to pass the new pedestrian tests.
    • bdangubican hour ago
      Tesla has a Dog mode
  • ProAman hour ago
    Sure they did. Money buys everything in the US with this administration.
    • buzzerbetrayedan hour ago
      You gonna post a source that this happened? Or are you just spreading FUD?
      • ohyoutravelan hour ago
        It’s pretty well documented that this is the case generally.
  • gamblor956an hour ago
    A Tesla still can't detect a motorcycle next to it, so I can't see how it would ace the blind spot warning test.

    Any other administration and I would be willing to grant the benefit of the doubt, but Musk's spent a lot of money to corrupt government agencies over the past year and a half so that he could get silly pronouncements that the most dangerous "advanced" driving system in the world is somehow also the safest. (More people have been killed by Tesla's ADAS systems than every other automaker's ADAS systems, in the world, combined.)

    • brandonagr2an hour ago
      Obviously your priors are wrong, it can ace a blind spot warning test because it can detect a motorcycle next to it.
  • flippyheadan hour ago
    wth man I was told mh Model Y that I bought around 2021 was going to do all this but it's now too old or something?
    • cevnan hour ago
      I'm in the same boat, this is a whole thing right now. There is some kinda class action in Europe which will hopefully make them pay up or deliver something useful. I think a Refund plus interest plus a hefty fine for lying would be a good start.
    • ricardonunezan hour ago
      It seems you got musked, overpromised and underdelivered.
      • kyleeean hour ago
        He at least bought me a horse
  • KnuthIsGodan hour ago
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    • tristanjan hour ago
      China is more repressive than the United States on basically every metric of fascism/authoritarianism that political scientists actually use. Do we need to elaborate?