24 pointsby epistasis2 hours ago5 comments
  • jerrythegerbil2 minutes ago
    Again, and this is important:

    A bug is a bug. A “potential vulnerability” is a bug. A vulnerability is verifiable as having security implications with a proof of concept or other substantial evidence.

    Words matter. Bugs matter. It’s important to fix large amounts of bugs, just as it always has been, and has been done. Let that be impressive on its own, because it IS impressive.

    Mythos didn’t write 271 PoC for vulnerabilities and demonstrate code path reachability with security implications. Mythos found 271 valid bugs. Let that be enough.

  • input_shan hour ago
    Original source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48051079

    It's better because it actually lists a sample of Bugzilla reports that were made public. This topic was discussed previously (36 comments two weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47885042), but the part about bug reports being made public is brand new.

  • MetaverseClub13 minutes ago
    I'm curious about how did Mozilla do bug finding before Mythos? Did they use any non-AI bug finding tools?
    • mccr811 minutes ago
      The usual sorts of fuzzing and static analyses, using AddressSanitizer and ThreadSanitizer. Also, with a bug bounty program to try to encourage external researchers to report issues. (I work on Firefox security; also I fixed 2 of the bugs linked in the blog post.)
  • lschueller2 hours ago
    Let's see, how this will improve the daily soc work. I still don't see, what's the big difference between Mythos and Opus, security wise. I'm confident, that this kind of vul detection is a long-term improvement. But does specifically Mythos makes such a big difference to "normal" models? I would love to see, what's the actual difference.
    • JoshTriplett2 hours ago
      Among other things, Mythos seems better at "let me find, weaponize, and stack vulnerabilities until I get end-to-end from untrusted content to root", rather than just finding one thing in a specific identified area.
  • ChrisArchitect19 minutes ago