202 pointsby dryadin4 hours ago24 comments
  • ggm3 hours ago
    The point is not just that he's blinded by the flag: He's boldly marching into the void, confident. "wrapped in the flag" is a great saying.
    • ua7092 hours ago
      Worse than a void because a void is not necessarily bad. Walking “off a cliff” rarely ends well.
      • freedomben28 minutes ago
        Agree, but that's what we know. The man in the statue is walking into a void from his perspective because he lacks knowledge of his true predicament and is blindly marching forward.
    • an hour ago
      undefined
    • an hour ago
      undefined
    • EnPissantan hour ago
      [flagged]
      • bogdan43 minutes ago
        I have no idea what you're on about
        • 11 minutes ago
          undefined
        • analog837440 minutes ago
          He's suggesting that there are several flavors of blindness going around so if we're going to point fingers then we might start with ourselves.
          • danparsonson25 minutes ago
            ...which is a blatant false equivalence, to be clear.
        • 31 minutes ago
          undefined
  • forgotusername63 hours ago
    I think it's a reasonable statue. But does anyone else think it's a bit obvious, more so than his other work? Like there is no doubt on the meaning at all, it's all right there on the surface level.
    • tene80i2 hours ago
      Not sure we think of Banksy as being particularly subtle. Innovative and impactful, sure - but the message is usually quite clear, no?
      • morkalork2 hours ago
        It's always been about as subtle as a sledge hammer
        • EGregan hour ago
          He started with literally graffiti. So sure - not subtle!!
      • ares62344 minutes ago
        Our first exposure to Banksy was when we were hitting puberty. We probably thought they were subtle back then.
    • tialaramex2 hours ago
      I don't think most of his work is trying for subtle? First thing that came to mind: "Slave Labour" is pretty obvious, it's a kid operating a sewing machine to make Union flags and it was painted on an actual pound shop. Were you unsure of the message? Even something like "Silent Majority" isn't difficult, the comic book "V for Vendetta" makes the exact same point just Banksy painted it as a mural.
    • EMM_386an hour ago
      > "in September 2025, Banksy painted a mural on the Royal Courts of Justice depicting a judge bludgeoning a protester with a gavel"

      His other works aren't subtle.

    • thinkingemote2 hours ago
      it gets people talking which many of those who like it consider to be the primary point. In other words, it's not great public art, it's basically government approved engagement bait or engineered pro-establishment viral messaging and it's very successful at that! (but it doesn't inspire and elevate that art should aspire to)
      • nickthegreek2 hours ago
        > engineered pro-establishment viral messaging

        I don’t understand this. What speaks pro-establishment in this piece?

        • chroma44 minutes ago
          It was installed in the middle of a street owned by the government. Police are guarding it to prevent vandalism or removal. Both the Westminster City Council and the Mayor of London have praised the statue and called for it to be preserved.[1][2]

          If the man holding the flag had been wearing a thawb instead of a suit, I think the establishment's response would be quite different.

          1. From https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y9wlnwl85o "We're excited to see Banksy's latest sculpture in Westminster, making a striking addition to the city's vibrant public art scene. While we have taken initial steps to protect the statue, at this time it will remain accessible for the public to view and enjoy."

          2. From https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/30/world/europe/banksy-londo... "Banksy has a great ability to inspire people from a range of backgrounds to enjoy modern art. His work always draws great interest and debate, and the mayor is hopeful that his latest piece can be preserved for Londoners and visitors to enjoy."

        • teekert2 hours ago
          If one can read this as pro-establishment, it's proof that the the art is indeed not so obvious as suggested above :)
          • 2 hours ago
            undefined
        • pirate787an hour ago
          In the UK the establishment is generally unsettled by the display of the English flag.

          https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/29/uk/st-george-flag-england...

    • ungreased0675an hour ago
      This one definitely lacks ambition compared to other works. Probably because his other work had a subversive undertone, this one seems sponsored by the powers that be. I also suspect it was installed with cooperation from the local authorities.
      • fooqux26 minutes ago
        I think you took a wildly different interpretation of this art than I did.
      • BoggleOhYeahan hour ago
        The “powers that be” hate ideology?
    • wand3r2 hours ago
      Certainly in America but all over the west, people are significantly less capable of media literacy. Sometimes the obvious needs to be said.
      • kergonathan hour ago
        > Certainly in America but all over the west, people are significantly less capable of media literacy.

        Not sure if you are serious, but my experience is the exact opposite…

    • tbrownaw2 hours ago
      > there is no doubt on the meaning at all

      Which flag? Or, what kind of flag? Or does it matter?

      • indyan hour ago
        "The LGBTQIA flag obviously"

        "It's clearly the national flag"

      • kergonathan hour ago
        It does not matter. Any ideology can be followed blindly to one’s ruin. Nationalism is common, but there are others.
      • Ancapistanian hour ago
        I’d say what matters is whether it matters to you. What difference does it make in the outcome?
      • MattGaiseran hour ago
        Flags overwhelmingly represent nations, groups considering themselves nations, that were nations or have some kind of individual governmental status.

        If you asked 100 people to imagine a particular flag to attach to that statue, 95% of them are going to be current, unrecognized, or former states.

      • wartywhoa232 hours ago
        It is universal. The flag, the state, the man. Details don't matter.
      • blitzaran hour ago
        the kind that flag shaggers shag
    • BoggleOhYeah36 minutes ago
      Have you seen the state of the world? Why would you go through the trouble of being subtle nowadays?
    • Jtarii2 hours ago
      I think a good old fashined "we are all fucked" is warranted now and again.

      It's also referencing the recent flag controversies in the UK over the past year.

    • seydoran hour ago
      it's less than mediocre art. Using the following statue from Temu for vandalism would be a stronger art statement: https://www.temu.com/1pc-3d-printed-bride-sculpture-elegant-...
    • zeroonetwothree2 hours ago
      Yes doesn’t feel very innovative
      • vscode-rest2 hours ago
        Do know know of any “prior art”, so to speak?
    • mindslight2 hours ago
      Well the problems it's referencing are glaringly obvious as well, and yet so many people still refuse to acknowledge them.
    • LightBug1an hour ago
      He's always been one to land a one-liner, or just a punch line.

      Sadly, in this day and age, that simple one-punch obvious meaning is just what's needed.

    • twoodfin2 hours ago
      I have the same reaction to Banksy, and figure he and his audience just have to be in on the joke? I can’t discount there’s some layered irony going on in conversation between the artist and the intellectual / capitalist / trend-setting elite that are his effective patrons.

      “I remember when all this was trees” [1] is maybe the best example. Detroit hasn’t been “trees” in something like two centuries. Platitudes doused in treacle.

      [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/10/01/ba...

    • lukebechtelan hour ago
      [dead]
    • kibwen2 hours ago
      [dead]
    • dahdum2 hours ago
      [dead]
    • 2 hours ago
      undefined
  • schoen2 hours ago
    I misparsed this headline as

    (Statue (of a man (blinded by a flag (put up by Banksy)))) in central London

    It is intended to be

    ((Statue (of a man (blinded by a flag))) (put up by Banksy)) in central London

    • tolerance2 hours ago
      The actual headline is more coherent but I'm not too fond of it either.

      You really don't see any good ol' fashioned short and sweet headlines that read best to the ear in a Mid-Atlantic accent anymore.

      • vscode-rest2 hours ago
        Banksy erects central London statue of man blinded by flag, maybe?
    • saltyoldman2 hours ago
      I was like, that's horrible how did this flag cause someone to go blind... Did it like fall on the guy when Banksy was putting it up? oh. duh...
  • sb05711 minutes ago
    Had this statue been erected in 2006, it would’ve been an immortal masterpiece. Had it been sculpted in 2016, it would still have been a great statue but flawed. But it was made in 2026. Alas, what can one say?
  • wartywhoa232 hours ago
    Banksy's "anonymity" is a total farce at this point, thoroughly supported by those in power.
    • Lerc2 hours ago
      I'm not sure what you mean by "Those in power" there are lot's of people who know, but recognise that he has chosen anonymity and see no value in putting a name to the person.

      It's not so much a secret as it is simply not public.

    • axusan hour ago
      Tracking Bansky is a favorite spy software sales demo given to authoritarian governments.
    • toyg2 hours ago
      Who cares? Are you similarly triggered by The Rock or Alemao? Banksy is Banksy.
    • badgersnakean hour ago
      The point appears to have whizzed a couple of feet over your head.
  • nickthegreek2 hours ago
    The piece states that it appears to be molded fiberglass. But is anyone aware of any more in depth analysis of its materials/possible production technique? Was the pillar barren on top before?
    • ZeroGravitas2 hours ago
      The pillar is fiberglass too, I believe.

      There's a (mostly terrible) documentary about a previous bansky "statue" deposited in London that, in one of its better moments, tracks down the people who actually make statues for artists like banksy.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Banksy_Job

      edit: I feel I should clarify that this is not an official Banksy documentary. He made "Exit Through the Gift Shop" which is an amazing film which I highly recommend to anyone.

      • Animats3 minutes ago
        Aw, it's Fiberglas? Not bronze and stone?

        The Wall Street Bull was a guerilla art piece too. It's a real bronze. Weighs about three metric tons. It's hugely popular, although it's been moved a few times. Banksy's work should be replicated in bronze and stone and placed permanently.

  • periodjet2 hours ago
    Banksy is the patron saint of the “I’m 13 and this is deep” mentality.
    • TehCorwiz2 hours ago
      "Blinded by nationalism" I don't know, seems like a clear concise message that has relevance in today's world.
      • miketery2 hours ago
        Why nationalism? A flag can represent more than a nation. Can be blinded by any "flag" / ideology.
        • wrxd2 hours ago
          • philk10an hour ago
            I went back to England last year and couldn't believe how many flags there were, I was shocked and not in a good way
            • nephihaha23 minutes ago
              Every criticism levelled at the St. George's Cross can be levelled at the Union Jack. It is time people in England had a healthier relationship with their flag, more like Scotland and Wales, and less like Northern Ireland.
              • actionfromafar4 minutes ago
                St. George's Cross is football brawls and "England uber alles". Union Jack is stiff upper lip and kicking nazis out of Europe.
        • adolph2 hours ago
          The ambiguity is part of the charm. Something that reveals more about the beholders than the artist makes for stimulating conversation and discovery.

          Even the new positioning of the art on a plinth in some open space is enigmatic. If it were a critique of the powers that be, why would officialdom collaborate in propping it up?

        • delusional2 hours ago
          Interpretations, in my art?

          Seriously, this is part of the fun of art. Neither of you are wrong for reading different messages into it.

        • MattGaiser2 hours ago
          Flags overwhelmingly represent nations, groups considering themselves nations, that were nations or have some kind of individual governmental status.
          • lucketonean hour ago
            Nations != governments.

            “Nations” as synonym for country started appearing only recently, in last two/three hundred years.

            Flags have thousands of years of history.

          • kergonathan hour ago
            Flags also represent causes, or groups that don’t aspire to becoming a nation.
          • nephihaha25 minutes ago
            They don't at all. Consider for example that every single city, county and local council in the UK has a flag. There are flags for the United Nations, the European Union, Esperanto, every major football team and most political movements including the CND and anarchism.
      • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm2 hours ago
        Is it though? This can mean anything. Is waving a Palestinian flag the same as waving an Israeli flag? Where do we draw the line between harmful and productive nationalism? Who exactly is blinded by nationalism?

        It is vague enough to appear deep to those trying to find something deep but not concrete enough to appear as anything that will stick in people's minds for more than a week. Unfortunately a lot of modern art is like this.

        • JuniperMesos5 minutes ago
          > Is it though? This can mean anything. Is waving a Palestinian flag the same as waving an Israeli flag? Where do we draw the line between harmful and productive nationalism? Who exactly is blinded by nationalism?

          Clearly it depends on your actual object-level position on the Israel/Palestine conflict. Or in general, what specific nationalisms you mean when you talk about being "blinded by nationalism".

          And that's the main reason why I think this is a mediocre piece of art. Very few people actually are genuinely anti-nationalist for all possible human groups that have some sense of themselves as a nation. All anti-nationalist rhetoric is implicitly aimed at a specific nationalism that someone has a problem with - and also everyone knows this. So everyone wants to use the blank slate of bansky's featureless flag as a canvas upon which to paint a nationalism they don't like in order to discredit it. And I personally think that's boring. Maybe engendering that reaction was itself part of Bansky's artistic vision, but I still don't think that makes for good art.

        • kergonathan hour ago
          > Is waving a Palestinian flag the same as waving an Israeli flag?

          Waving a flag is not a problem in itself. You can be proud of being part of whatever group you like and not hurt anyone. The problem is when the flag becomes the prism through which you see the world. Or, as the statue puts it, when you’re blinded by it.

        • cm20122 hours ago
          Both Israel and Palestine are blinded by ideology. It is a very common failure mode for people.
          • runarbergan hour ago
            When one is a colony of the other the flag of the colonized has added symbol of decolonization. The flag of the colonizers has no such symbol, quite the contrary in fact. These two flags are clearly distinct.
          • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm2 hours ago
            Any attempt at "both sides" messaging is just an attempt of diversion from ethnic cleansing. Cute messages break down the moment you look at things more concretely.

            Even if you don't care about palestine, keep in mind imperialist states never stop at one place as we are already seeing.

            • lukan2 hours ago
              So ... Hamas does not want to do ethnic cleansing and attempted that a couple of times, but simply were not as powerful to have a bigger impact?
              • t-3an hour ago
                Resistance to illegal occupation and colonization isn't ethnic cleansing, it's a legal right as ruled by every international body since Israel was formed. Totally false equivalence.
                • lukanan hour ago
                  If you want to remove a certain set of people from land (people who were born there btw.) you are engaging in ethnic cleansing. The definition is clear here.
        • garyfirestorm2 hours ago
          waving any flag and thinking its us or them is equally blinding. the world is not vacuum and to coexist we need to put flags behind and work together.
    • have_faith2 hours ago
      Are you from the UK and know what the piece is a reference to? It’s topical and unpretentious and comes at a time where the country is splintering. Feels a like a bit of a distant midwit take to take shots at the appeal it has.
      • andai2 hours ago
        Explain like I'm 13 and don't live in the UK.
      • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm2 hours ago
        Splintering? You have two zombie parties that are really the same in different colours. Of course people are going to vote for other parties that seem more left/right wing. Predictable consequence.
        • danparsonsonan hour ago
          Splintering because some are going one way and others are going the opposite direction. Heading to opposite extremes.
    • Fezzik2 hours ago
      Most galvanizing statements have been pithy and comprehensible to 13 year olds. The general population is not doing a deep dive in to something like Thoreau’s “Resistance to Civil Government,” contemplating the proper role of government, and then getting fired up to act. We need CliffsNotes, slogans, and visible art like this.
    • ryandrake2 hours ago
      Heaven forbid someone tries to communicate a point with art.
      • 2 hours ago
        undefined
    • pippyan hour ago
      The irony is that the statue is being guarded by the London police.
      • ungreased0675an hour ago
        That’s not irony. It’s a pro-establishment piece. If it was a piece about migrants raping British women Banksy would be in jail right now.
    • infinitewars2 hours ago
      I think it deserves credit for being both simple and original.
      • an hour ago
        undefined
    • touwer2 hours ago
      So, you are 14 and you understand the world? Doesn't seem like it
    • yakkomajurian hour ago
      It doesn't need to be super layered to be impactful?

      Plus the execution is also part of the art.

    • CPLXan hour ago
      Actually it’s a great example of something different, where the person who was original and eventually becomes ubiquitous and groundbreaking and widely imitated to the point where it's hard to understand just how original they actually are.

      There are many examples of the same thing: Andy Warhol and the soup cans and screen-printed portraits with different color backgrounds or Led Zeppelin and English folk hard rock songs that have hobbits in them are two of them.

      Eventually, it's hard to even process their work in the context of how predictable and trite it seems to be a few decades later.

    • booleandilemma26 minutes ago
      Account created last year, is Banksy your patron saint?
    • stavrosan hour ago
      This works really well these days, when the average person is 13.
    • rvba2 hours ago
      Really riles up PE types and "patriots" though.
    • mihaaly2 hours ago
      [dead]
    • TacticalCoder2 hours ago
      He's also king of the "I'll criticize the west but I'll turn a blind-eye to non-democratic countries' wrongdoings". A trait shared with virtually all intellectuals and artists in the west.

      There are fights worth fighting: for example there are 300 million women alive who have undergone forced genital mutilation. 300 million ain't cheap change. There are also hundreds of millions of people who applauded the killing of 1200 young civilians who were enjoying life at a music festival "because it's resistance".

      Applauding the killing of young unarmed civilians, genitally mutilating women and turning a blind-eye to a regime slaughtering 30 000+ of its own unarmed civilians is where I personally draw the line and consider there are maybe more important things to complain about than, say, "the patriarchal western society built by heterosexual white men" or some other woke non-sense like that.

      Now to be honest Banksy did art criticizing war overall, not just war started by the west. So a generous reading could consider that he also criticizes things like the 800 000 deaths during the Hutu vs Tutsi war.

      But still overall: lots of balls from western artists when it's about criticizing the west, but tiny tiny nuts when it's about, say, attacking the ideology that is responsible for 300 people enjoying music at the Bataclan and then getting slaughtered.

      But these people can live with their own conscience: I speak up and I've got mine.

      • constantius2 hours ago
        That's a lot of imaginary flaws in imaginary people, with imaginary numbers as scaffolding.

        The moral posture you're criticising is not actually a thing, I personally don't know of any Western intellectual who criticises the West but is fine with FGM for example. But it seems that the fault you find in them is that when they criticise the West, for example, they don't also add a list of grievances against all the other countries (but surely they'd have to speak for 10 hours every time they open their mouths?).

        It's also funny how you take the 30,000 Iranian civilians killed at face value, but don't talk about the wrongs of the British empire. And you didn't even mention North Korea once. You see the issue with your reqs?

      • bravoetchan hour ago
        Are you making art to fill that perceived gap, or just lodging your objection to people doing their own thing? No artist owes you a curriculum of your design.
      • zuminatoran hour ago
        There's a lot wrong with the world, but it seems not unreasonable for people to more strongly critique things 1) they feel they have some responsibility for or 2) that directly impact them or 3) where their criticisms are more likely to result in positive change.
      • delusional2 hours ago
        What do you want the artists to do about it? Part of art's power is shining a light on something we don't notice day to day. Most westeners are against mutilation, what would the art say?

        Art will always be about speaking truth to power, and that power will usually be the one closest felt. There's not much value in a swede speaking truth to Nigerian warlords.

      • 2 hours ago
        undefined
    • vkou2 hours ago
      This criticism would carry more weight if the people this statue criticises had the intellectual and emotional maturity beyond that of a teenager.

      Unfortunately, they often don't meet that bar, so the message has to be in a form they can understand.

      • 9dev2 hours ago
        "They'd be pretty angry if they could read"
      • krapp2 hours ago
        You're being downvoted but honestly the "everyone is twelve now" meme explains our collective societal dysfunction perfectly.

        There's no point to complexity or subtlety in art anymore, or even any kind of symbolism at all. Anything that needs to be interpreted, that doesn't have a single objective meaning which gets spelled out for you. Flag man is silly. Everyone is twelve now.

        • Lerc2 hours ago
          Lana Wachowski has said that the Red Pill movement taught her that no matter how unsubtle you are, it's still too subtle for some people.
          • tialaramex36 minutes ago
            Huh. I hadn't thought about how the "Red Pill movement" would feel for the Wachowskis, yeah, there's truly no limit to how oblivious people can be and this thread is illustrative.
        • toomanyrichies14 minutes ago
          100%. One can't advocate for the dismantling of the Dept. of Education, the tearing down of "educational elites", and the wholesale banning of books, while at the same time crying foul when people say they have the intellectual capacity of a 12-year-old.
    • jiriro2 hours ago
      > Banksy is the patron saint of the “I’m 13 and this is deep” mentality.

      You are wrong.

    • odyssey72 hours ago
      Maybe, but in 100 years, people looking back on the current era will easily understand the work. It symbolically communicates something about the spirit of the age.
  • tommica2 hours ago
    Yeah, definetly had the city agree to it, no way in hell to sneak a statue like that without the cops getting involved.
    • vscode-rest2 hours ago
      The trick is not to sneak it. Hi Viz and some yellow flashing lights. Couple smooth talkers.
    • robocat29 minutes ago
      Apparently not:

        Westminster City Council has told the BBC it did not grant permission, as it was not given advance warning that Banksy's team was planning this installation.
      
      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4pvyw82exo

      Council permits are usually quite public (in my country). Sneaking it in becomes part of the artwork.

    • gib4442 hours ago
      Agreed. Also why it's totally inoffensive

      (Though it's not in /the/ City of London. That wouldn't happen in a million years! City of Westminster is way more culturally flexible)

      • tialaramex2 hours ago
        It doesn't make sense in the City. Waterloo Place, where he put this, has a bunch of statues already for tourists to gawp at, just now as well as "Bloke on a Horse who was an important military leader" there's this guy stepping off his plinth because the flag blocks him from seeing what's in front of him.

        The City is dead at night. If an artist wants to put art there, they'd just as somebody else said, dress up like they are workmen and be fine.

      • peterian hour ago
        I dunno they were flexible with the Piranha art work displaying it in the guildhall temporarily.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2qz89nk11o

    • encom2 hours ago
      Banksy (Robin Gunningham) is the most mainstream establishment artist, while thinks himself a counter-culture revolutionary. That's what makes him so cringe. He's just another champagne socialist.
      • BoingBoomTschak17 minutes ago
        "The Underground is a Lie", successful version.
      • Ancapistanian hour ago
        Perhaps, but he’s also a talented artist.

        One of my favorite contemporary musicians is a Socialist Filipino rapper who lives in LA. I can enjoy the music while finding the ideology abhorrent because they are two separate things.

      • lucketonean hour ago
        Somebody has to enlighten mimosa-party participants about socialism.
  • seydor2 hours ago
    Anyone else leaving up a huge statue in the middle of the park would be arrested
  • daseiner12 hours ago
    seems missed in the general commentary that there is also an inherent commentary on the western tradition of “blind justice” https://i.etsystatic.com/13403651/r/il/40b0bf/6851322246/il_...
    • danparsonson21 minutes ago
      How so? The concept of the 'blindness' of justice is antithetical to blind patriotism.
  • declan_robertsan hour ago
    Things were more fun when they were actually transgressive and not just the established doctrine of those in power.
    • _harkan hour ago
      Yeah. The safety of the message is underwritten by its state sanction.
  • xyzelement2 hours ago
    It took me a minute to figure out why I think it's lame.

    I suspect that Banksy and his fans are sure that it's "the other" Britons that are blinded, it's not a self-reflection prompt for them. Maybe I am wrong.

    Maybe a more powerful piece of art would have that self reflection effect across the board. As is it feels about as nuanced as "fuck trump" and similar. If you already agree you already agree, if not then you just think it's stupid. So ultimately feels like impotent art unless I am totally misunderstanding.

    • lschueller2 hours ago
      So many people connect this to political topics... For me this is the genius thing about the statue. Seems to be, that quite a lot people are so wrapped up in political debates and political positions, that it has to have political meaning. Maybe this statue is the exact opposit thing of a political message.
    • lucketonean hour ago
      Is it that important to decode what author thought when he was making it?

      What if the design was made by generative model, does the statue become more or less valuable?

    • LightBug1an hour ago
      I don't think it's impotent at all.

      I think you're wildly overestimating the general population's capacity for nuance.

      Particularly in a world where nuance goes the same way as wood logs near a fire place.

    • fyloan hour ago
      Are you trying to be ironic?
    • delusionalan hour ago
      Yet us talking about it just prompted me to consider how that applies to my life, so something good came of it :)
  • AlexandrB2 hours ago
    Which flag?
    • rootlocus2 hours ago
      The one he's carrying.
    • shocks2 hours ago
      Any flag.
    • BLKNSLVRan hour ago
      Whoooosh
    • LightBug1an hour ago
      And others in this thread were worried about it being too obvious ... ffs
  • metalman3 hours ago
    Statue of a man in a suit walking off a precipice while blinding himself with the flag he is carrying.

    https://banksy.co.uk/index.html

    • Simulacraan hour ago
      I can't get over the flag itself… It's a black flag. Not a British flag, not a white flag,… A BLACK flag.

      Historically, the black flag is strongly associated with anarchism, anti-state politics, revolt, and rejection of national authority.

      Had he colored it in the union jack, then I would've said it was nationalism, and the person is blinded by nationalism.

      But. This is Banksy, black-and-white Banksy, so there may be no symbolism behind the black flag, but it's just very interesting. I can't accept that he would not have considered the color of the flag.

      • danparsonson16 minutes ago
        It's styled after other bronze statues that are all one colour because of the material. Given the context in which he put this up, it's a pretty clear commentary on nationalism in general, so using a specific country's flag wouldn't work.
      • Ancapistani43 minutes ago
        It’s Banksy. He uses color to highlight things or where the color is important. Here, I assume the flag is intentionally indistinguishable.
      • mindslightan hour ago
        I think it's about being slightly more subtle than a frontal attack on a specific flag.

        But from an American perspective a guy wearing a suit while carrying an "anarchist" flag wouldn't be inappropriate, either.

        • Ancapistani42 minutes ago
          Why not?

          We anarchists with careers do in fact exist. There are probably dozens of us outside of tech, even!

          • mindslight36 minutes ago
            How would you say your numbers compare to the amount of business leaders who are marketing themselves with messages of liberation, but actually want to usher in an era of unfettered corporate authoritarianism? I was not saying an anarchist wearing a suit cannot exist. Rather I was pointing out the current hypocritical pop culture adoption of the concepts of anarchism/libertarianism.
            • Ancapistani12 minutes ago
              I’m not sure; lots of people self-identify as anarchists while holding beliefs that are diametrically opposed to my own, and lots of people who are much closer to my own beliefs call themselves other things because they’re either afraid of the word “anarchism” or understand it to mean something else.

              If I had to ballpark it, I’d guess something like 1:5 people in tech are broadly aligned with me politically (meaning “less extreme, but directionally similar”) while maybe 1:100 would self-identify as an anarchist and 1:500 both self-identify and align fully with me.

              Does that help?

      • runarberg38 minutes ago
        Black flags are never depicted being wielded in this way. The stance and the clothes of the person carrying the flag are two more artistic shorthands that makes it very clear that this is a national flag, not a black flag of solidarity.
  • nothinkjustaian hour ago
    If someone was to deface this statue would they face legal action? It’s kind of an interesting thought, side if it really was just put up without the city’s authority it would be okay, and if it wasn’t it defeats the entire point.

    “Rage against the machine” by doing what the machine wants type thing.

    • petermcneeley13 minutes ago
      Really makes you wonder about other things as well...
    • declan_robertsan hour ago
      Yes. This is state-sanctioned think. They probably paid to put it up!
    • lucketonean hour ago
      That evil city council..
  • slopinthebag2 hours ago
    Wind bad.
  • haunter2 hours ago
    He definitely got a permit for that which makes the whole thing even more laughable
    • CPLXan hour ago
      There's no definitely about that at all. The city of Westminster issued a statement that seems fairly clear that they were as surprised as everybody else but are taking steps to protect it.
  • an hour ago
    undefined
  • jchip303an hour ago
    [dead]
  • Gongo_Emperor2 hours ago
    [flagged]
  • jansan2 hours ago
    Who decides that this is from Banksy? I could make a stencil graffiti in my village and claim it's from Banksy and noone could prove me wrong. Or is he using a digital signature as proof of authorship?
  • nickdothutton2 hours ago
    Remember kids. Don't believe in anything. Don't join anything. Don't give even a small part of yourself up to anything. Don't be part of anything bigger than yourself.
    • wartywhoa232 hours ago
      Don't be part of anything bigger than yourself that treats you as expendable human oil.
      • lucketonean hour ago
        Stop and reflect for a moment. Then continue as usual (quite likely)
        • wartywhoa23an hour ago
          I had to check your other comments and now I get it that you still regard flags as having some sacred meaning in the great national past, but for me they always were about gathering as much human expendables underneath.

          Sure, they might have had generated enough sacred reverence, those bloodbaths of past.

          • lucketone15 minutes ago
            > you still regard flags as having some sacred meaning

            I would like to disagree on this point.

    • 2 hours ago
      undefined
    • BLKNSLVRan hour ago
      You forgot to add:

      ... that blinds you to any alternative; that indoctrinates distrust in different perspectives; that elevates the humanity of fellow believers above others.

    • bdangubic2 hours ago
      much more sound advice than you think…
    • schaefer2 hours ago
      Counterpoint: Where I come from, families don't have flags.
  • dickens52 hours ago
    Trite and uninspiring. Banksy trying to stay relevant and failing.
    • lschueller2 hours ago
      Well, for a failing artist he is quite impactful, isn't he? News around the world reporting about it. People discussing it. This seems to be quite inspiring and anything else but failing.
    • BLKNSLVRan hour ago
      Got you to comment, job done. Engagement: tick.
      • an hour ago
        undefined
  • MrBuddyCasino2 hours ago
    Really makes you think. I guess Palestine and Ukraine should just give up.
    • dickens52 hours ago
      [flagged]
      • ebbi2 hours ago
        Israel should give up on the apartheid, genocide, and the war crimes. No one but the worst of the worst Zionists want to see the continuation of the last 80 years.