Should other living systems have agentic reprsentation?(www.speakforthetrees.com)
1 pointby offtrailstudio2 days ago1 comment
  • offtrailstudio2 days ago
    The Rights of Nature movement recognizes ecosystems as legal entities, instead of as a collection of resources to be managed. Ecosystems around the world are gaining legal personhood, with human guardians being appointed as trustees.

    Speak for the Trees is an experimental project that explores how AI might support the Rights of Nature movement. If equipped with data about an ecosystem and capital to act, what actions might an agent take to support an ecosystem and its guardians?

    • PaulHoule2 days ago
      It seems to be trying to summarize data about various places but, for better or worse, talks about the data it wishes it had when it isn’t available.

      I do a character to do street photography and that character does another character

      https://mastodon.social/@UP8/116484421100356111

      who is a thēríon and not thoroughly tame like

      https://mastodon.social/@UP8/116476942582628585

      The second character was very easy to do for me, like the foxographer doesn’t need a background story because he is legible and employed. Kitsunekamen does need a background story because he does have to explain himself so I have ‘writing’ to do.

      So yeah I am very interested in how you would manifest a voice that speaks for wild things.

      • curio_Pol_curioa day ago
        Quick TILs:

        -preemptive defence=best offence=plausibly not a school bully

        https://www.brookings.edu/articles/you-go-to-war-with-the-pr...

        >As the saying goes, you go to [HN] with the [question] you have. And you don’t want a good [problem] ruined [for want of data].

        -kitsunehanmen is cool. "coolness" ~ "calm+wild". Isaac Newton with kh, masks inward looking cageyness under outward looking edginess

        -enby may not be "approachable". Smiley Ben Franklin is not as cool as a Ben Franklin that threatens cougars just by _being_

        Newton: pope=Antichrist

        nobody: Newton=Antichrist

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therion_(Thelema)

        • PaulHoulea day ago
          Well I did run into a game designer as “Mr. Fox” and kitsunekamen on two days of a comic book convention and he seemed to think I was a dark magician or at the very least too willing to work with demonic forces. In fact he seemed reluctant to sell me a copy of his game because I might use it to curse him or something.

          Now thēríon is Greek for “wild animal” and I think it a definite slur to say they have anything to do with evil or the devil, they are beleaguered enough on this planet and don’t need insult on top of injury. I am learning to censor my speech and be careful of phrases such as “release the beast” as kitsunekamen and his host would believe that’s a beautiful thing, not a threatening thing.

          • oliculipolicula7 hours ago
            Right, right. I remain somewhat unsure of whether "evil twin" indicated anticorrelation (not "value-judgement" :)

            >"his host would believe"

            I spy a 2-month-old Sz host who thinks like me and acts like "you":

            https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47952359

            >I can see fragments of knowledge that he cannot hide