Followed by creating Web applications based on Web standards, instead of whatever Chrome does, and then complain about Firefox and Safari not being up to the game.

> voice out there for the average person and a project that connects with the masses

> they rather engage and connect with things that are "fun" and want less friction rather than freedom and control

Do you see the contradiction? The average person "connects with" less friction rather than control.

Your Browser Agent string isn't Chrome or Firefox? Enjoy endless Cloudflare captchas or just a 403 error.

Simple. Break up all the big tech corporations via anti-trust legislation. They are the robber barons of our time.

Unfortunately, the answer is pretty much always "real public funding"

It’s them articulating clear and logical reasons why the proposed API, in its current state, is bad for web interoperability.

I personally use LLMs for coding assistance, and some home automation stuff, but I do not think this particular API is good for the web.

That shipped sailed in 2008.

So they should provide an interface to LLMs, disabled by default, enabled when users want it, and that’s it imho.

That also gives me the choice of which LLM provider to use, rather than being locked in whatever LLM Apple decided to do put in their OS.

I want to give Claude access to the stuff Apple Intelligence has access to, for example.

In theory it's useful. If devs can rely on local models, it's more private and decentralized, they don't need to funnel money to AWS or Anthropic. There are low-stakes use cases that only make sense if they're local (available offline) and free.

But in practice I've seen zero adoption of Apple Foundation Models in native apps. I wonder if any Mac/iOS devs have anything to share on this.

What are you trying to say?

We've seen this sort of song and dance before, crypto jumps to mind. Remember when social media sites suddenly were all about those hexagonal avatars? Most of this stuff is really in that same vein.

(Which to be clear, users don't want this. AI pushes by pretty much all recent user feedback metrics are largely tiring out users and reek of corporate desperation to sell shit. It's only a very specific subsection of Silicon Valley that wants to stuff AI in everything like this.)

Operating Systems: Windows (built-in Copilot), MacOS, iOS (Apple Intelligence)

So it's >90% desktop browser and OS, plus >30% mobile OS.

Yes, I think it's very safe to say "browsers and operating systems are increasingly expected to gain access to language models."

I think it was subsumed by later developments (javascript), but the issue with it AFAIR was just that it wasn't useable in all browsers, not that the tag per se was a bad idea (as much as scrolling text can be).

The situation with the model api seems different, more like the AMP spec.

Like, that sounds daft, but it's not really far from what they're doing here.

He is more or less aligned with the current most common sentiment in the west which is largely publicly against AI.

But realistically it's just slow adaptation, network effects, etc.

To give an example, before the MLB rolled out the Automated Ball Strike system this year, last year maybe 65+% of the sentiment in discussions about it was negative or in some cases just neutral.

Now that it has rolled out, 95% of the sentiment online about ABS is positive. The main comment by far is, why didn't they do this before, and why don't they do it automatically on all pitches now.

There are certain cognitive and informational flow limitations in society that will cause this to be delayed, just like all major technological advancements.

But once it rolls out, the perspective you hear online will be about digital sovereignty, now we aren't required to send our data to an external provider for AI, why wasn't this available before. People will probably assume it was blocked because it reduced a major source of data for advertising or something.

And overall AI and robotics in the future will be seen as the greatest enabling factor for increased equality in society.

It's really just this underlying dislike of and disrespect for technology that much of the western public has. Which may turn out to be one of the reasons that we lose our de facto leadership position in the world.

Not to mention many other UX questions the come with this, most importantly, how unusable these local models are on regular 3-year old laptops that are constrained in RAM, GPU/CPU capability and likely disk space despite what enthusiasts say here. (They have a Macbook Pro with 32+GB of RAM, reports it works great with xyz model -- fine -- but somehow thinks it works for everyone and local models are the future.)

Advocacy (against chromium and its forks) is one way.

Oh no! Chrome is trying to enhance user agency again! Oh no! Chrome is trying to make the web better for end users!

Mozilla's concerns aren't totally bogus, I'm not going to try to laugh them out of the room. But their pearl clutching & belly-aching about "oh no what if not all implementations of ai prompts work exactly the same" feels fucking tired and weak sauce to me.

This post really doesn't deserve our attention, my my view. But I'd challenge the haters to at least try to connect their reflexive hate meaningfully to what the topic at hand actually is, to provide something worth considering in some way. But that I think asks too much, for what posts like this seek: merely to inflame the world.