102 pointsby fishgoesblub10 hours ago13 comments
  • dlcarrier4 hours ago
    I get 401 errors all three time, because I use web browsers that don't leak enough personally identifiable information to prove that I'm not a robot.
    • 7e4 hours ago
      You don’t need PII to prove you are not a robot. See Privacy Pass. And I don’t know how a website is somehow going to verify your PII as not-fake, anyway.

      Likely you just use a shit web browser.

      • jmalicki3 hours ago
        How a website is going to identify your PI as non-fake? Isn't that the entire business model behind Persona which has been in the news for leaks? (There are a few websites I've had to verify my if I with them for)
  • killingtime745 hours ago
    Nit. Isn't it a real honeypot, not a fake one?
    • BLKNSLVR5 hours ago
      Yeah, that confused me as well.

      Is it a honeypot, or does it just look like a honeypot? And if it just looks like a honeypot, isn't that a honeypot? or if it looks like a honeypot that isn't a honeypot does that mean it's the actual thing?

      • IIAOPSW4 hours ago
        Its a honeypotpot
    • JumpCrisscross4 hours ago
      > Nit. Isn't it a real honeypot, not a fake one?

      The lack of even taking your payment details makes it look either fake, as in still being built or built as a demo, or not being a serious operation.

    • nicman232 hours ago
      fake real one
  • technothrasher8 hours ago
    When I was first poking around with Tor, I wondered how many of the "Get guns in Europe", "Hard Drugs here", "Credit Card Numbers for sale" and such links were honeypots. Luckily, not being interested in any of those things, I didn't have to find out.
    • nathanmills7 hours ago
      When I was younger I tried to buy a gun on one of those sites for a planned shooting but it just resulted in me losing my money and not any law enforcement action
      • throwa356262an hour ago
        WTF is the "planned shooting" you casually dropped here?
      • kstrauser4 hours ago
        You, uh, OK now?
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    • derelicta27 minutes ago
      Most of the legit stuff was on telegram, surprisingly or not. I know people who bought uh firearms and more there. Unfortunately, it feels like it disappeared at the same time as the proximity feature
    • akimbostrawman27 minutes ago
      If they use surveillance coins like BTC they are 100% a honeypot/scam.
  • amarcheschi8 hours ago
    Oh I think I did something similar by chance. I was seeing which websites were associated with some entities, and I found the ones of the Italian defense ministry. In italian defense is "difesa". I found one that had "bifesa" in the link, and when opened told me that I had to be more careful to links I open because it could have been a dangerous website. Flash forward to a year later and it didn't work anymore
    • nkrisc7 hours ago
      Sounds like something used by phishing awareness training. If so, then presumably it didn’t work anymore because they ended that or use a different one.
  • emmelaich7 hours ago
    Is a fake honeypot ... real?

    Is een nep-honeypot ... echt?

    Forgive my pedantry.

    • sidewndr466 hours ago
      Yeah I don't think the author understands what a honeypot is.
      • ronsor5 hours ago
        It's just redundant. The author surely knows but typed "fake honeypot" like how everyone else types "ATM machine."
        • hcs5 hours ago
          It's a honeypot for pedants
  • sans_souse7 hours ago
    Why is this particular phrasing; "fake honeypot" triggering déjà vu for me? And is it fake déjà vu or legit?

    Genuinely asking if anyone recalls this being in an HN in the last two yearsish.

  • bananamogul8 hours ago
    "I guess they saw my email address that greeted them. They probably received logs of someone "falling for it", and saw someone was poking around their secret website, and knew who was behind it. They completely panicked."

    I doubt it. I think the author of this page is giving himself way too much credit. The only evidence that anyone "panicked" is the author's own statements that they must have. More likely someone put in a WAF rule that 401'd for his IP.

    "By running these honeypots, the police create suspicion and paranoia in the community. If you want to buy a DDoS attack, you now have to wonder if the website is real or just a police honeypot logging your IP. They want people to stop trusting these services entirely."

    Well, good, right? What "community" is this diabolical suspicion and paranoia being created in? The community kids who want to DDoS some other kids' game servers? OK, again, that's good, right?

    "But it really just feels more like feds jerking themselves off on how cool they are."

    Pot, kettle.

    "Does this video and the honeypot have any real impact? Let's be honest: probably not."

    How does the author know? According to Wikipedia, the larger operation has shut down 4 dozen sites offering DDoS services.

    Sure, gov't is often clueless and maybe this is effective or maybe it isn't. Maybe it's an experiment. Maybe it's actually intercepted a fair number of potential customers.

    If clueless teens are signing up for booters and it's actually LEO who contacts them and says "you know, that's illegal" then that's a good thing.

    • HanayamaTriplet8 hours ago
      >More likely someone put in a WAF rule that 401'd for his IP.

      Why make this assumption when you could just visit the website yourself and see the same 401?

      • TurdF3rguson5 hours ago
        I visited and got the 401 but that doesn't mean whatever triggered it isn't automated.

        The reasonable assumption to make when something changes that it had nothing to do with me. Because 99.99999% of the time, it didn't.

        • ncallaway4 hours ago
          I dunno, if they got ID #15, and the site shut down immediately after (for everyone), it doesn’t seem like a crazy stretch.

          Like, if a page gets hundreds of thousands of visitors, then your assumption is reasonable. For a page that might get dozens of visitors over its lifetime, it’s a much less certain assumption

          • TurdF3rguson3 hours ago
            It's unlikely in my opinion as someone that maintains a lot of websites, because it's long odds that I'm even at my desk at any given time, let alone monitoring and panicking over what visitors are clicking on.

            Is it possible that it happened that way? Sure. But it's more likely that it didn't.

          • brewdad3 hours ago
            They were supposed to shut down after #12 but they got busy, then had to take that day off to get the kids to the doctor and it fell to the wayside. Eventually, the notification for #15 arrived and the dev panicked that it should have gone down weeks ago.
    • majorchord8 hours ago
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  • TurdF3rguson5 hours ago
    Why would they have Cloudflare turnstiles? Are they worried about getting DDOS-ed?
    • petterroea5 hours ago
      Cloudflare have successfully made their products so common people use them without giving a second thought to whether or not it makes sense
      • petterroeaan hour ago
        Coming back to point out cloudflare is probably the most common way of hiding your servers ip if you are running a greyzone or illegal service, and its useful for running many websites on the same VPS without reverse DNS busting you
    • tardedmeme2 hours ago
      DDOS websites get DDOSed by their competitors all the time
  • charcircuit8 hours ago
    Stress testing your own site like the article shows isn't criminal intent. There is legitimate market demand to understand if a service you are running can properly withstand and filter out either large mounts of legitimate and illegitimate traffic.
    • stkdump2 hours ago
      Wouldn't a legitimate service for stress testing your own site ask for proof that you own the site?
      • charcircuit28 minutes ago
        There might be too much friction to get someone working for a site to be able to prove it which will reduce sales. It's simpler to just use the legal system to enforce it by putting it in the terms of service.
  • drekipus8 hours ago
    Technically it would classify as a real honeypot site I'd think
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  • slopinthebag7 hours ago
    > Does this video and the honeypot have any real impact? Let's be honest: probably not. It feels like they are just redistributing wealth from the average taxpayer to AI video slop corporations.

    I feel like this describes roughly 75% of all government initiatives.

  • tecoholic8 hours ago
    One of those articles that has an interesting anecdote but written with a mundane lulz mentality. If it’s for teenagers, by teenagers. All is well.
    • slopinthebag7 hours ago
      I'm not a teenager anymore but I thoroughly enjoyed it, a lot better than some random dev breathlessly talking about how they haven't written a line of code in 6 months, or an article talking about how LLMs lead to the end of programming/the economy/the world, etc etc.
    • razingeden7 hours ago
      It’s a little shitposty but i had fun.

      I, too, hate it when people discuss hacking on my Claude News homepage.

    • tecoholic7 hours ago
      I know. This was not a helpful comment. Sorry.