16 pointsby tartoran2 hours ago1 comment
  • bediger40002 hours ago
    Do Trump's actions make any sense at all? During Iraq and Afghanistan wars, Bush, Obama and Biden seemed to have some goals, and some strategic planning. Trump looks like he's just winging it.
    • heyitsmedotjayb2 hours ago
      He is making it up day by day. We all just watched America lose a war.
      • leereeves2 hours ago
        In what way did America lose?

        America actually profits from the high oil prices as a net exporter.

        • ngetchell2 hours ago
          Most Americans don't profit. A very small few do.
          • leereeves2 hours ago
            You could say the same thing about Silicon Valley.
    • b--l2 hours ago
      If you assume he is being blackmailed then it makes sense. On any other level it does not.
    • beardyw2 hours ago
      Perhaps he will say he's sorry.
      • GJim2 hours ago
        Whilst wearing a suit.
        • fuzzfactoran hour ago
          C'mon, he's more than a mere clothes horse with a wardrobe.

          There's also makeup.

          He's obviously got his own high-dollar custom color pallette now, and more-accomplished artists to better co-ordinate with the costumes and the lighting.

          No more looking like the average person with that run-of-the-mill plain commodity orange.

    • johng2 hours ago
      Does keeping Iran from having Nuclear weapons make sense?

      Does keeping Iran from paying terrorists make sense?

      Does keeping Iran and it's proxies from killing Americans and civilians from other countries make sense?

      All of those things make sense to me. This needed to be done long ago. Every single administration said so.... it's clear as day. But, he finally did it. In a decisive way. I would gladly pay a bit more at the pump so end all of the above.

      Now, think of all the protests and political backlash that he got for not helping Palestine more. What Iran is doing to their own people is much worse, IMHO. Not a peep about it from most people. No campuses shut down. No riots. No walk outs.... because it's not Israel doing it.

      Go talk to someone from Iran... someone who has family there. They all support Trump on this issue.

      This needed to be done. It amazes me how many Americans want us to lose simply because it's Orange Man doing it.

      • tartoranan hour ago
        U.S. war in Iran has cost $25B so far [1]. Was that worth it? Did it help with anything? Is the Horumuz strait open? This looks like a disaster that is about to sink the US economically

        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47949897 [1]

      • GJiman hour ago
        > Does keeping Iran from having Nuclear weapons make sense

        Why do (some!) Americans insist on believing Iran was going to obtain nuclear weapons? Netanyahu is repeating the line "Iran will have a nuke in 2 months" for 30 years. American intelligence also showed that Iran was nowhere near building a nuclear weapon.

        Frankly, a better question would be to ask why Mango Mussolini tore up the 2016 Iran Nuclear deal (JCPOA).... most likely because it was made by his predecessor.

      • bediger4000an hour ago
        If nuclear weapons was an issue, Trump blew up a cheaper far less disruptive agreement his first term. If that's an issue, it's one of his own making.

        The "terrorist" business? I've seen a rotating cast of "terrorists" over the years. That's pretty obviously villain of the moment propaganda.