So it's invasive AND worthless? Why is this getting support?
You need an offline/IRL verification step and measures to prevent sharing/cloning. AND you need to never phone home revealing services you're using.
Total garbage
Proof of human verification powered by the Orb only involves one type of data: images of your eyes and face. It does not require your name, email, gender or anything else.
The iris images are used to verify unique humanness, while the images of your face are used for Face Auth, a security feature that ensures only the person who verified their World ID at an Orb can use it.
The Orb takes high-resolution images of your irises and face.
The Orb uses these images to confirm your humanness and converts the iris image into a unique code which is then split into randomized multi-party compute (MPC) fragments.
The Orb sends the images and MPC fragments to your device (your personal custody package), before permanently deleting them.That's what the orb thing is about. You go visit, meet humans, have a photo of your eyes. You can't just hold up an AI photo or scan your dog or whatever.
There were more logos on that title slide: Tinder, DocuSign, Zoom, Okta, Vercel, Shopify, Browsnerbase, AWS, exa, RAZER, Coinbase, VanEck
will posting this on forums that are run by these same people actually be able to drive change?
Your message needs to find other people. The how is irrelevant, it just shapes and transmits it.
Also, why wouldn't anyone want to have data about everyone? Seems like a valuable asset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9ptA3Ya9E (Mitchell and Webb on "identity theft")
Once that was out in the wild it was only a matter of time before someone productized it, but there was no conceivable world in which nobody decided to, and there was no guarantee that it was going to be public in all cases. The basis for LLMs is so simple in hindsight that it's not even impossible that it'd been independently discovered and privately weaponized for many years before 2017.
By this logic, we cannot blame anyone who is the agent of anything that we deem to be inevitable. Just because it is eventually going to happen, that means you are completely non-culpable for being the person who does it. This could obviously be extended into justifying pretty much anything.
I'm not sure I have a specific point here other than that I think it's interesting that he became a target, not necessarily that he's actually blameless.
Trying to make money on selling the solution to the problem you caused (while also probably tracking literally everyone with the solution) is much worse than causing the problem and doing nothing about it.
Shit in the pool then sell the nets to clean it up.
The good news is: this is the one tech that can be relatively easily stopped, if we so choose. Compared to data centers, this is easy. And yet, I am not sure, if it will be easy enough for most to care about.
I would actually like it if we had something that could say, only promote things on my feeds that are "liked" by people within a geographic radius of me. At the least, mute things that are getting pumped from hostile regions.
I just don't know that I see how this can get us there, though? Seems far more likely that it would lead to more abuse.
Ugh, really? I live in a part of town where I speak a different language than the vast majority of the people in this "geographic radius of me" which means I'd see very little content that I could understand.
Where do people come up with these wild ideas of anything other than show me the content of people I want to see in the order it was posted? If you want a "Feeling Lucky" type of feed, make it available. Otherwise, you're sending people content they don't want and are only too lazy to stop using it.
That is, this sounds like the idea that telling people if bad things happen when you eat too much candy, then people will eat less candy. Just flat not the case at large.
Yes, you also have to document the downsides of candy. Such that I'm also all for having that feed. But I don't see it being enough to move the needle much, on its own.
Seems like there's an effect but it just takes time. The younger generations are smoking and drinking less.
Maybe the trend will be to abstain from social media feeds and chronological feeds will be their Zima.
Also, companies shouldn't be able to refuse service just because the prospective customer's biometric data was leaked/stolen/duplicated in the past. I mean, when you think about it that's some Twilight Zone or Black Mirror territory.
Tech like World ID is scary. Agreed.
What is the better alternative? AI isn't going away and a human internet is worth preserving.
that "blueprint", hilariously enough, starts with the title "How AI is eroding the foundations of the internet".
from a sam altman company. im afraid if i rolled my eyes any harder that they would spin out of their sockets.
There is no way these guys don't know exactly what they are doing. It's the spam thing all over again, but on a 100x worse scale. Cue PG with an essay 'A plan for AI'. Except this time it is probably going to be game over.
I can see a real future for the likes of tailscale here: botfree networks of friends.
I know, not exactly an easy problem to solve, but big tech or government is going to do it if we can't find better solutions first
/shrug
Time to put a stop to this PI tracking trend. But we all know PI will be tracked by all entities in the future in about 10 - 20 years.
They have no problem helping to strangle democracy to death
China already has this level of tracking, Russia is straight up clamping down on the entire domestic internet, and Europe is headed their aggressively, too.
Perhaps glorious Paraguay, aka Best Guay, will shine as the last beacon of freedom, but this is plainly a global phenomenon
That being said, I admit that my original comment also wasn't very constructive, more of an emotional statement. I need to get off HN and other social media, they're a waste of time.
So many obviously stupid ideas cropped up on the blockchain in 2021-2022. How many of those are still going concerns?
I guess the problem with blockchain stuff is that often there's no servers to shut down or other clear indication that a project has failed - presumably you can look at on-chain data to see if people have stopped trading various backing tokens, but does trade ever clearly stop or are there always bots exchanging tokens back and forth?
My personal line doesn't go back 20 years. But I think a lot of people can relate.
Praise to the equity lords!