4 pointsby wasimsk3 hours ago5 comments
  • FrankWilhoit2 hours ago
    Don't talk about Musk. Talk about the universal failure of skepticism that makes anyone like him possible.
  • rvz44 minutes ago
    Depends who you ask.
  • anovikov2 hours ago
    Well, at least success of SpaceX that was achieved in the industry that was considered a basket case overall, and unapproachable by private entrants in particular, is beyond doubt. He brought US space launch industry from a heavily struggling laggard progressively more dependent on Russians and quickly losing competence and capacity, to a complete world domination, all while consuming very little capital or engineering resources.
    • Zigurd31 minutes ago
      > all while consuming very little capital or engineering resources.

      ... If you ignore Starship. SpaceX is operating on a $20 billion bridge loan which, if the IPO struggles at all, adds to the risk. Starlink depends on becoming a telco scale mass market ISP, but it's operating in a shrinking TAM, squeezed by increasingly cheap terrestrial wireless infrastructure, and the fact that high income customers are a minority in areas rural enough for terrestrial wireless to be an uneconomical.

      Tesla is spending more than the market cap of Rivian to become the Allbirds of the car industry. They're gonna blow their capex on robots and AI without refreshing the car line.

      Another commenter remarked that Elon's fame is a failure of skepticism. I've been a skeptic for a few years now, starting with skepticism about agile rocket development, which sounded like bullshit to me.

  • nness2 hours ago
    When we talk about an artist being overrated, we're talking about whether their works are deserving of the reverence, praise, and patronage that they attract. Its largely subjective — built on interpretation, comparison, retrospection, etc.

    Elon Musk is a truly proficient capitalist. Great at creating capital. So, in that sense, no he is not overrated. There is nothing really subjective about capital — you either have it or you don't. And despite all the warning signals, people still heavily invest in his ventures.

    But is he overrated as a leader, as a visionary, as a genius — the subjective measures. I'd argue, yes. Doesn't take a genius to create capital. As he's done nothing artistic or altruistic for us to debate the merits of his life, I can't imagine what other criteria he can be evaluated upon.

  • pixel_popping3 hours ago
    You might not like the guy, but anyone thinking Elon Musk is "dumb" is out of his mind and just straight up narrow-minded, we are talking about one of the richest person on the PLANET,you don't accidentally become the richest man on the planet by being dumb. That takes brains, vision, and an INSANE amount of risk-taking that 99.9% of people on this earth could never even fathom (even if they pretend so).
    • anovikov36 minutes ago
      I don't get why are you being downvoted. People seem to forgot that he started out as an engineer and visionary, and built pioneer companies in at least two industries that were deemed impossible to enter from outside - cars and space launch - and succeeded in both.