62 pointsby Brajeshwar5 hours ago7 comments
  • 555555 hours ago
    Literally had no idea they actually made tech. I thought they just private labelled charging cables and sold them on Amazon.
    • ssl-34 hours ago
      They've been first at a few things.

      For instance: Back in the Bad, Old Days, charging phones (especially smart phones) wasn't quite as simple as today.

      The aftermarket cables were shit. Brands came and went overnight (they still do, but they did then too), and even if a person eventually found some cables that worked then it was hard to get more of them later.

      The aftermarket charging bricks were shit. I had some that would make capacitive touchscreens go crazy. Some that barely worked. Some that got stinky-hot.

      The phone might have a USB port that looked about like all the others, but that didn't mean much: Different phone models had different ways for signalling/confirming/accepting charging capabilities, and they rarely lined up with the method a random charging brick used.

      Get the wrong combination on this double-locked mystery box, and it was possible to plug a phone and have it say it is charging -- even though the reported battery SoC is dropping before your eyes.

      That was the market. It was fragmented and dysfunctional, and the only sane method to simply charge a phone was to use OE cables with OE power bricks, for real money.

      ---

      Then Anker showed up, kind of out of nowwhere. And they were all like "Uh, guys? We sell stuff that actually works."

      And they were right. They put together cables that consistently didn't suck (which should not be hard, except...). They started selling charging bricks that worked well with most or all of the phones on the market -- fooling them into thinking they were talking to their OE brick so they'd behave themselves.

      It had been a terrible mess. A complete crapshoot.

      And then, Anker products just plugged in and worked. They did all the things they said they'd do.

      They did it so well that they raised the bar for the entire industry.

      And, nowadays, it's not so bad. It's easy-enough to get a reliable cable or a charging brick that isn't a complete turd from a variety of names. That's not a thing that most of us think about much, if at all.

      But man, it was fucked up for a long time before Anker stuff became common.

      • dpoloncsak3 hours ago
        Didn't it come out that their cameras were uploading everything to the cloud even though they swore it didn't? I feel like I remember being very disappointed with Anker for something...
        • prymitive3 hours ago
          They own Eufy which sells cameras with main feature being “no subscription needed”, that are very unreliable and full of ads (which isn’t being advertised as much as lack of subscription). They do also go big on labelling a lot of simple features as AI where in reality it’s something as simple as “detect a person in a photo”. I have Eufy cameras and it’s complete garbage, sadly competition is also mostly garbage. Bold unsustainable claims at st the core of their business, it’s not just thumbnails.
        • thejazzman3 hours ago
          Eufy was uploading the thumbnails to S3, if I recall correctly, so that they could be delivered in push notifications
          • dpoloncsak3 hours ago
            This sounds right? All I can find is an LTT video on the topic and I'm not in a place to watch a video at the moment
    • BeetleB4 hours ago
      They make a lot of not-top-tier products. The products are usually quite good, but not the best. They're often the best value.

      (Very happy with my $60 Anker earbuds).

      • ryanisnan4 hours ago
        Anecdotally, I've always been reasonably pleased with their products. I think I've owned a couple of powerbanks, and a USB/HDMI hub. Of the <Insert_random_smattering_of_letters> brand names on Amazon, I do tend to lean towards them a bit more.

        edit: having said all of that, relating to this article, I don't want AI anywhere near the products of theirs I'm currently buying.

        • BeetleB4 hours ago
          Oh, they've been pushing AI on my earbuds for a long time now. I just ignore them.
      • Aurornis4 hours ago
        Anker is a brand where buying a product feels like pulling the lever on a slot machine. I'm either going to get a product that works great and I love it, or it's going to feel half-baked and fail early.
      • bashZorina_094 hours ago
        Extremely happy with my Anker Boom 2, it's amazing how much a clear and punch it packs for half the price of the nearest JBL product.
    • kqp4 hours ago
      They are one of the main players in cords, chargers, power banks, robot vacuum cleaners, smart home devices, and headphones and earphones, and also make a bunch of other stuff. They have $4B annual revenue. Some things are under the Eufy brand.
    • 4ndrewl4 hours ago
      Another +1 for Anker kit - ime it just works, is reasonably priced, and seems to last (I'm still using a 10 year old usb battery of theirs).
    • echelon5 hours ago
      Anker is a powerhouse and they've grown huge.

      Best chargers on the market, hands down. Best cables too.

      But they've gone into high end stuff. They make the Eufy brand of LiDAR smart vacuums for instance. All done in house, and consistently in the top rankings against market leaders like Roborock and Dreame.

      They're killing it.

      They're doing home security systems, and all sorts of stuff under the Eufy brand.

      • derektank4 hours ago
        Did not realize the Eufy brand was affiliated with Anker. Feels like a missed opportunity, Anker has earned some goodwill from me that might sway my purchasing decisions in the home automation category
      • bookofjoe4 hours ago
        I love my Eufy camera: no subscription fee, plug-and-play, never a problem, just a crystal clear view of my driveway with never a glitch. Cost me around $35 a couple years ago.
      • SyneRyder4 hours ago
        Love my Anker chargers. I like them even better than my Apple chargers now. Liked their wireless phone charger too, though the blue light on that was excessively bright. I have lots of Anker USB cables, no problems with them.

        Didn't know they made Eufy. That would make me highly consider Eufy for anything.

        • hn_throw2025an hour ago
          Apple sell Anker chargers on their website, alongside their own.
        • gib4442 hours ago
          What is there to "love" about an Anker charger out of curiosity (or, well, any charger)?
          • co-ent14 minutes ago
            Pretty much what one of the posters above summarized. They were one of the first aftermarket brands for phone chargers that you didn't have to worry about what protocol your phone was going to try to use for fast charging, it'd just work™ and be more affordable than OEM. Add in mostly decent build quality and they got a surprisingly strong base for it.
        • smohare33 minutes ago
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  • fxtentacle3 hours ago
    It's basically a DSP for noise cancellation. They just call it AI because, presumably, that'll increase their stock price.
  • devonproctor3 hours ago
    I've been quite happy with the AnkerWork S600[1], which I bought a couple years ago through Kickstarter. I don't know if it's the same chip, but they advertise a "professional NPU", and I find the voiceprint-based ambient sound rejection works very well. I can literally have my crying child in my lap and the other side of the phone call can't hear him.

    [1] https://us.ankerwork.com/pages/a3319-s600-all-in-one-speaker...

  • exabrialan hour ago
    I just want a battery pack with no ai
  • m30473 hours ago
    It's an audio processing chip, so probably not going to show up in a charging cable. Although the engineering part of my brain says "noise" shows up in a lot of places...
  • coldtea5 hours ago
    It's amazing how (based on polls, like https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/polling-reveals-th...) the public dislikes it when it's shoved down its throat in unrelated programs and products (as opposed to them explicitly using an LLM or content generation program), but companies keep shoving it and even making a big deal out of doing so.

    Perhaps the best thing about 2026 Apple is how "behind" they are in "AI Integration". And even them have shoved useless features like "Image Playground" on us.

    Anyway, time to find another peripherals vendor.

    Who asked for AI on hubs and chargers?

    • deepsquirrelnet4 hours ago
      > Traditional call noise canceling relies on those small onboard neural networks and can have difficulty isolating your voice in very noisy environments, which results in ambient noise leaking through or voices getting highly compressed, making it difficult to hear. Anker says the larger neural network available on the Thus chip, plus eight MEMS (micro-electromechanical systems) microphones and two bone conduction sensors to focus in on your voice, in its yet-to-be-announced earbuds will have significantly cleaner call audio, regardless of the environment.

      Anyone who likes good noise cancellation, which is a lot of people.

      Back in the day we just called it ML. But now you have to stop for a minute to read and determine what they’re talking about, because “AI” is primarily a marketing term.

    • Aurornis4 hours ago
      Early in the article it explains that these devices already had small neural nets on board. The advancement is that they can now put larger neural nets on board.

      The best noise cancellation has to be adaptive. Neural nets help this work well. If making the product work well is "shoving it down your throat" then I don't know what to say.

      The public presumably didn't hate the products before this chip and before knowing they had some form of AI on board.

      > Anyway, time to find another peripherals vendor.

      Why? You don't even understand what the AI functionality is for or the fact that it already existed. You just get triggered by reading articles like this?

      • coldtea3 hours ago
        >Why? You don't even understand what the AI functionality is for or the fact that it already existed. You just get triggered by reading articles like this?

        Because if it this is just adaptive NC using some NN, I still dislike vendors using terms like "AI" to jump on the bandwagon.

        And of course because I already have a huge adversion to actual generative AI shoved down my throat in products I use, including macOS/iOS (thankfully lesser), and Windows/Office (much more), and content creation programs.

        And don't get me started on generative AI slop shoved down my throat in HN submissions, YouTube, and every major platform, from X to Substack, and even into places it should never have even touched, like Art Technica, which I've been reading for a quarter of a century.

        So, yes, excuuuuuuse me, for not liking such announcements, even if they're not about generative AI.

    • nearbuy4 hours ago
      According to the article, it's used for noise cancelling and calling that can better isolate voice from background noise. It's not an AI assistant or an LLM. These are totally different and the public's feelings on LLMs do not apply to their feelings on active noise cancelling.
    • frereubu4 hours ago
      They're not putting them on hubs and chargers, Anker make more than that. In the article it says that they're being used first in earbuds.
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    • ux2664784 hours ago
      I distinctly remember a comment chain here, I think from last year, where someone made a remark they would never implement AI features, they wouldn't touch that tech "with a 10 foot pole" because of the public perception and backlash. Another comment immediately chimed in with skepticism about the general public having a negative view of AI.

      I genuinely believe that the people pushing these features live in an algorithmic bubble. The internet supposedly connects us all, but I have to wonder how much hidden segregation goes on behind the scenes.

    • edu5 hours ago
      VCs
    • echelon4 hours ago
      AI is polarizing.

      The rest of the world outside of the US and Europe loves AI. China is embracing it fully.

      Why is our Western media making the public hate it so much? It's almost as if it's a top down edict from all the news giants to constantly dump on AI and make it sound like it'll kill you.

      If we maintain this view, we're going to get steamrolled. And we'll have deserved it.

      • recursivean hour ago
        It kind of seems the opposite to me. I'm seeing so much marketing budget and and positive media exposure. It's the people that don't like it because of what it is and what it represents.
      • ktallett4 hours ago
        It isn't needed in every device. I don't need ai in a plug, or in a charging bank. I am perfectly capable of making a decision myself. I can use a piece of software without AI being helpful. Often I just want easy to use items that I have full control over and this lumping AI into everything is removing that.
    • lostlogin4 hours ago
      > Who asked for AI on hubs and chargers?

      USB-C and hdmi cable issues are right up there as causes of frustration for me. But me day the external minute works, next it doesn’t.

      Having cables fail in new and unexpected ways with AI sounds amazing.